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#241: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:43 pm
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schrecken wrote (View Post):
You should ask matrixgames, they control the levers allocating resources.... why are you posting such nonsense here, no one from matrix visits this site... unless posts regarding copyright breaches are noticed.


Don't assume that posting at Matrix will result in any action taken. You just have a higher chance of someone from Matrix reading it. The S3T team members that visit here are the link back to Matrix. Its thier (voluntary) job to sort through whatever customers say here and send it back up through the chain. To say the only way you will be listened to is by making contact directly is wrong this day in age.

Not very many people want to create another account just to voice a complaint. They'd rather voice it somewhere they are an established member at. The reality is the Matrix site wont ever be the only site complaints or bug reports are posted to. That does not mean those posts should be ignored either.

#242: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:05 am
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I'm not really surprised with the slow progress for patches and fixes...I mean look at the 'upcoming' CCMT patch  Wink
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2097234

IMO, this all boils down to how f****ed up these CC re-releases are produced.
For those who missed out on the drama...basically...Matrix paid for the CC license, but they don't want to invest any money on developing the CC re-releases...they just want to publish a string of classic wargame series re-releases (like what they did with a few other popular PC wargame titles).
Instead of settling on just releasing the old versions (with maybe a few minor tweaks and making them compatible with modern PCs), Matrix struck gold!!
Matrix found a developer made up of a bunch of dedicated CC modders (CSO Simtek, S3T) to do the fixing for free...and these volunteers will even tackle overhauls and develop expanded versions of CC for free!  The fact that these CC re-releases were produced by a developer (mostly) made up of volunteers should have been kept under wraps...the consumers and CC community should never have found out about this...very unprofessional.  I don't think Matrix ever wanted to go public about this bit of info either ;)

Matrix is now happily selling these 'expanded' CC re-releases at max prices...they didn't really allocate too much resources to develop them...so why should they start allocating resources to producing patches and fixing bugs?  Do you think patching these games is on their priority list?  Wink

#243: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:33 am
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In the credits for WAR you schrecken are listed as the project manager under the S3T credits.
Under the Matrix credits you are listed as CUSTOMER SUPPORT


That was dated a year ago

#244: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:49 am
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Perhaps there will be a release of an unofficial patch, like CC5s v5.01a?.

#245: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: Sapa PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:15 am
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I am reading an smiling.... Cool

Mats

#246: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: yuma PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:42 am
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"At S3T we've  planned to keep WaR relevant and keep updated with new features as they become available rather than let it be left behind and unloved like CC4."

Thats a laugh!
I've lost track of the number of times I've gone to Matrix site to see if a patch for WAR
has been completed.  They don't care.

#247: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:00 am
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Come on now,
Don't sit there and smile Sapa,thats not doing any good.
Go over to Matrix and voice a complaint.

Everyone needs to go over there and post a complaint,waiting to see what one persons response gets does NOTHING.

#248: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:32 am
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PM, maybe the Matrix guys are reading this...and smiling...  Wink

#249: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:40 am
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If thats the case then getting a Torrent version of the re-releases wouldnt really cause anyone to loose any sleep over morals now would it?

#250: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: Sapa PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:14 pm
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You are probably right... but i have smashed my head bloody about the txt files and the lack of tools, and to tell you the truth im giving up.... Crying or Very sad

I will play the new versions as they are and mod CC5.

Mats

#251: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: AT_Stalky PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:22 pm
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ahha

Matrix & S3T Consumer support is handle by a sub contactor.

#252: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:41 pm
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Since we have title of teaser there should at least be one in the thread....

Here is picture of the Meuse 1940 mod on TLD showing three new tanks; FT-17 MG, FT-17 37mm and FCM-36.



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#253: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:15 pm
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Sapa wrote (View Post):
You are probably right... but i have smashed my head bloody about the txt files and the lack of tools, and to tell you the truth im giving up.... Crying or Very sad

I will play the new versions as they are and mod CC5.

Mats


Me too. I spent hours and hours trying to extend the TLD grand campaign a few days while making less turns per day. It was impossible, so many errors. The error messages were obscure sounding and really were not help at all. Its great its all dumped into txt files but it does not seem any more easier than before. So far its an untested theory.

#254: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:24 pm
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How did it compare to the other mods you've done Mooxe?

#255: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:43 pm
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mooxe wrote (View Post):
Sapa wrote (View Post):
You are probably right... but i have smashed my head bloody about the txt files and the lack of tools, and to tell you the truth im giving up.... Crying or Very sad

I will play the new versions as they are and mod CC5.

Mats


Me too. I spent hours and hours trying to extend the TLD grand campaign a few days while making less turns per day. It was impossible, so many errors. The error messages were obscure sounding and really were not help at all. Its great its all dumped into txt files but it does not seem any more easier than before. So far its an untested theory.


It may not be easy, but then doing a mod for any version of CC has required extreme dedication. But it is doable....

#256: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:49 pm
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schrecken wrote (View Post):
How did it compare to the other mods you've done Mooxe?


What mods? Oh no that makes me unqualified to comment on how difficult it is to edit a txt file, woops!

None of the converted mods (if they ever see the light of day) will be anywhere near as popular as they were in CC5. The result of converting a mod completely will be someone gratified that they fulfilled thier hobby project and a few hundred downloads. Its a case of misguided effort once again.

Concentrate on whatever patches you previously commited the team to and work on Operation Market Garden. May it end with that final re-release. End the torture.

#257: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:58 pm
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Put 100% of your resources to fixing the main game (to hell with the mods).

#258: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:04 pm
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Once again you're posting into the ether here....

#259: Re: Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert !,Teaser Alert ! Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:08 pm
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God will listen.  Razz

#260: Re: Trainwrecks & The Off Topic Hijackers Graveyard Author: mooxe PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:43 pm
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well anyways...



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