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#1: Anyone play SSG games? Author: flick,  PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:54 pm
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I just ordered Korsun pocket off amazon, for eight english pounds.

Apparently these games, actually have decent AI

ps I swear I allready started a thread on this.
#2:  Author: Therion,  PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:28 pm
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Well, prepare to spend a month doing tutorials from manual Very Happy .

I have Battles in Italy and Battles in Normandy. They are certainly are much better strategic games than CCV, but they are a bit hard to start playing.
#3:  Author: flick,  PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:20 pm
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Yeah, the leanring curve is really high, but it's addictive.

Surely you just move a counter, next to another counter, and look at the odd, then roll your 'dice'?

For decent AI and realism, i'll put up with anything!
#4:  Author: Therion,  PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:31 pm
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flick wrote:
Yeah, the leanring curve is really high, but it's addictive.

I suspect that the learning curve would be much less steep if they would bother finishing the tutorials - i.e. providing actual lessons within game, not within the manual, which isn't even included in the game box.
I wonder what's the deal with hardcore strategy developers - do they want to make their games as least accessible to the public as it's possible or what?

I mean, imagine running CC bootcamp and then having to read everything from the e-book manual with alt+tabbed game Mad .

flick wrote:
Surely you just move a counter, next to another counter, and look at the odd, then roll your 'dice'?

Yes. And I think some bonuses like artillery, etc.
None of the "move counters and then fight battles in a FPS" modern crap.
#5:  Author: flick,  PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:53 pm
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I suspect that the learning curve would be much less steep if they would bother finishing the tutorials - i.e. providing actual lessons within game, not within the manual, which isn't even included in the game box.
I wonder what's the deal with hardcore strategy developers - do they want to make their games as least accessible to the public as it's possible or what?


The review from gamespot say's this..


One key to the ease of learning Korsun Pocket is an excellent and thorough eight-scenario tutorial. Unlike many tutorials that merely teach you which buttons do what, this mini-manual not only instructs you on how to use the interface, but also guides you through the basic tactical and strategic aspects of the game. Once you've completed the tutorial you will have learned most of what you need to know to effectively lead your virtual army, and you can then use the full PDF manual on disc as a reference when needed.


Are they being too enthusastic in their review you think?

These are minor grumbles, to be fair. I'm just looking forward to actually fighting decent AI, in a matrix computer game, no less!
#6:  Author: Therion,  PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:26 pm
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flick wrote:
The review from gamespot say's this..


One key to the ease of learning Korsun Pocket is an excellent and thorough eight-scenario tutorial. Unlike many tutorials that merely teach you which buttons do what, this mini-manual not only instructs you on how to use the interface, but also guides you through the basic tactical and strategic aspects of the game. Once you've completed the tutorial you will have learned most of what you need to know to effectively lead your virtual army, and you can then use the full PDF manual on disc as a reference when needed.


Are they being too enthusastic in their review you think?

Well, I think that "professional" game reviewers usually have pathetically low standards. They are game enthusiasts where they should be game critics.

flick wrote:
These are minor grumbles, to be fair. I'm just looking forward to actually fighting decent AI, in a matrix computer game, no less!

I think that one day I'll try to go through all these tutorials. I think I have them printed somewhere...
#7:  Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:03 pm
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Kursun pocket is really nice, I'd almost forgot that game! Smile

-But I remember that I almost killed my printer while printing the pdf-manual (all 52 pages...) Rolling Eyes

Another game I have that I haven't reinstalled is Airborne Assault, it been years since I played it, don't remember the level of the AI. Anyone with an opion about that?
#8:  Author: flick,  PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 6:13 pm
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Been at it a couple of days, good basic manual, and I admire them for picking such an (relatively) obscure battle.
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