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#1: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:36 pm
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I and a friend played CCV GJS many years ago. The game crashed every second battle and it was almost unbearable. Still we loved the game.

I never really liked CCV vanilla. GJS introduced many new units and the concept of hiding AT-guns in bushes. It took more than one mortar round to knock them out.

I can´t find any mods for CC TLD, so I assume there are none. Is CC TLD basically the same as CCV vanilla without mods? If I did not like CCV vanilla, but loved CCV GJS, will I hate or love this game?

Will there be any mods for this game? Is this game stable in multiplayer?

#2: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:41 am
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I might be a bit biased since I was a beta tester for TLD but...

TLD mods - there are currently no available mods though a couple conversions from CC5 are supposedly in the works; Bloody Omaha, GJS and Meuse but no ETA's have been given.

TLD - TLD is not like CC5 as it includes all the landing beaches with American, British and Canadian BG's. The code has been changed adding features (examples; increased # of BG's, increased # of maps, night battles and varied airborne deployment zones) and fix bugs.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2101344

I think you will love the game.

Yes, it is much more stable in multiplayer....

#3: Re: Tell me about this game Author: JaguarWolf,

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:32 am
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TLD is not worth it really. CCV with the mods is all you need.

#4: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:03 am
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CC5 with mods is great and will give you tons of replay value... Though the stability problems seen with GJS will still be their when playing any of them in a H2H campaign....

#5: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:44 pm
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CCV crashed all the time during multiplayer. The GJS mod itself was not the problem.

I assume they have fixed most of the stability problems in CCTLD. I would gladly pay 1000 Euro for a stable version of GSJ. But I don´t think a stable version of CCV vanilla is worth buying at all. As I remember it you can´t even hide a gun in a bush. You have to put the gun behind the bush and it won’t be able to see or fire through it. Even worse - the gun crew won’t take cover when fired at with mortars. And every second mortar round will hit the ammunition depot and make the whole thing blow up. What are the odds of that? In CCV about 99 % it seems.
Even a company of Volkssturm was more useful when dealing with enemy tanks than a big gun was...

#6: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:17 pm
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I bought the game. Now I only have to wait 30 minutes for the download and probably 30 years for the GJS mod to be released Smile

#7: Re: Tell me about this game Author: mooxe,

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:27 pm
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Wittmann81 wrote (View Post):

CCV crashed all the time during multiplayer. The GJS mod itself was not the problem.

I assume they have fixed most of the stability problems in CCTLD. I would gladly pay 1000 Euro for a stable version of GSJ. But I don´t think a stable version of CCV vanilla is worth buying at all. As I remember it you can´t even hide a gun in a bush. You have to put the gun behind the bush and it won’t be able to see or fire through it. Even worse - the gun crew won’t take cover when fired at with mortars. And every second mortar round will hit the ammunition depot and make the whole thing blow up. What are the odds of that? In CCV about 99 % it seems.
Even a company of Volkssturm was more useful when dealing with enemy tanks than a big gun was...

I would say its not worth the money. Once you open up the game, you will see its the same old Close Combat from 10 years ago and regular CC5 will give you the exact same feeling. Now if the price reflected how old the game was, and how impossible it is for 99% of the people to play online, then maybe it would be worth it.

Most of the opponent you will find on Gamespy or Hamachi are playing regular CC5 with mods.

#8: Re: Tell me about this game Author: JaguarWolf,

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:04 pm
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You wasted your money. Oh well....some people just have money to throw away.

#9: Re: Tell me about this game Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:12 pm
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I just bought a new car, air conditioned, power windows, mp3 player, bluetooth, more fuel efficient doesn't break down, built in GPS, fully supported by the manufacturer.......

A waste really, I could have kept driving my old one, a call to the repair shop every month isn't that much hassle, some things don't work as they say in the manual, far less features, can't see at night, .........

#10: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:47 am
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Crap. A drug addict probably spends his money more wisely than I just did.

Close Combat The longest day is Close Combat 5 without mods. So I actually paid for an inferior version of a game that I already have.

I assume this version is stable in multiplayer. But the game is boring without mods. So now I have a fun version of the game that does not work in multiplayer and a boring version of the game that does work in multiplayer. This is pure evil.

#11: Re: Tell me about this game Author: JaguarWolf,

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:21 am
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hundreds of people play CC5 multiplayer, so obviously you've got the problem.

#12: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:52 am
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Wittmann81 are you starting "Close Combat The Longest Day (Game Menu)"?

TLD is different than CC5 but it does include the original CC5 game as it's own menu choice; "Close Combat Invasion Normandy (Quick Start)"

#13: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:40 am
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JaguarWolf wrote (View Post):

hundreds of people play CC5 multiplayer, so obviously you've got the problem.

Really? Everyone at GameSpy had the same problems as I did when I played some years ago. Maybe there is a new patch?

Single battles always worked fine even in multiplayer. But when playing campaigns the game crashed after 2-3 battles. Always at the exact moment when the timer hit 00.00. Some peopled tried to reload the game after every second battle. But I don´t think it made any good.

I did play the game for many years. I had it installed on Windows 2000, Windows NT and Windows XP. Didn´t work on any of my computers.

#14: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Bungarra, Location: Murchison region, West Australia

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:22 am
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Really Wittman81 had you read the previous posts in The Longest Day Forum the question has been answered for you.

As you can see the opinions are varied

If you are looking for CC6 (like everybody else) then no there are no dramatic changes.

If you are looking for an improved experience in the existing game then yes buy it by all means.

I do agree that the price is over the top for the revamped old game.

I play it more than any other game I have therefore I believe that it is worth it to me.

As for mods, I feel it is only a matter of time before the mods start appearing as it is not an easy job converting them.

We have a great community here from all walks of life. I bought TLD for an improved gaming experience knowing full well its limitations from the posts of other members.... as you did. This it has done for me.

It is all the way you want to percieve it to be.

That you are not happy is unfortunate but you were forewarned of its limitations.

Had you gone in blind............... well

My advice (now you have it) is get into it and enjoy it

Have fun!! Very Happy

#15: Re: Tell me about this game Author: Wittmann81,

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:35 pm
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Bungarra wrote (View Post):

Really Wittman81

If you are looking for an improved experience in the existing game then yes buy it by all means.

Well. I did read some posts before i bought the game. I fail to see any improvements at all. Some new maps and night fights, that´s it. Considering there are no mods for this version, I would say it is inferior to the original game.

Matrix has sold us a game that we already own and now they want the CC community to do all the work for them in converting mods. 40 Euros wasted is not the end of the world, but what Matrix are doing is simply not ok in my opinion.

#16: Re: Tell me about this game Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:47 pm
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Wittmann81 wrote (View Post):

Bungarra wrote (View Post):

Really Wittman81

If you are looking for an improved experience in the existing game then yes buy it by all means.

Sometimes curiosity just gets the better of people....

Thats what Matrix Games does, recycles. They have a bunch of recycled games other than Close Combat. Read thier forums and you will find similar complaints.

Its not just a matter of time before the mods are converted. Its a matter of quality, and considering they debating on changing some things in some of the mods, it will add more time and maybe more bugs and a different experience. There are very very few people working on the conversion, maybe one or two, maybe three if one of the members get bored.

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