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#1: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:03 pm
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Hello,
Small things I have on my editing list is

A Jeep with .30 Cal and a .50 Cal MG (2 different Jeeps ofcourse)
New BG for Allies (Team Snafu)
Some sound files from VeTBoB
Maybe a vehicle or 2 from VeTBoB
New Brit BG

Anyone want to add anything else,

#2: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:38 pm
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Soldier uniforms from VetBoB!

#3: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:32 pm
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You did have to pick the Hardest one didnt you?

#4: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:18 pm
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1. Correct menu sizes for widescreen monitor's (currently it shows black borders around the menu's).

2. An option to switch beteen a solid and transparent 'inset map'.

3. Fix A.I. controlled tanks from doing "donuts of death" (circles).  Twisted Evil

4. New sounds for the BAR, Thompson, .30cal, M2, MG-34, StG-44 and MG-42 (both light and heavy).

5. Replacement map for 'Dasburg'.

6. Improve survivability of 'AT' and 'IG' guns.

7. New menu music.

All these changes for the new WaR patch.


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#5: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:23 pm
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):
You did have to pick the Hardest one didnt you?


Well...the stock CCWAR uniforms look really pathetic!
The vehicles and their camo schemes were redone beautifully (on par with VetBoB's vehicles)...but the soldier uniforms are from stock CC4...plus additional pathetic touches like US AB with brown uniforms (probably representing khaki M42 jumpsuits...which were not used anymore at Wacht Am Rhein).  The stock German uniforms also look cartoonish at best  Wink
I've worked on a new uniforms.txt based on VetBoB...but I'm not completely satisfied with them yet.

#6: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:08 pm
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Well I can do a few things

anyone want to throw in a few?

#7: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:35 am
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Here's what I did with the German uniforms (based on VetBoB)...I can PM you the uniforms.txt file if you like.
I'm still not 100% satisfied with my Allied uniforms though.

KG Peiper/1st SS (no winter gear):


KG Kuhlman/12th SS (winter gear/snow camo):


295th/18th Volksgrenadier Div (no winter gear):


190th/62nd VG Div (winter gear/snow camo):


15th/5th Fallschirmjager Div (no winter gear):


14th/5th Fallschirmjager Div (winter gear/snow camo):

#8: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:57 am
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I see you changed the health icons (faces) next to soldier rank. You should release these things.  Cool

Nice work with the uniforms.

#9: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:11 am
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^^^

Thanks, Digs!  Smile
Yeah...when the official patch comes out...I might release my custom mod (mostly graphics stuff, plus some minor data tweaks) for both CCWAR and CCTLD.

Soldier Heads icons?  Yeah...I used them for BoS45...grew to love them and started using them on all my CC installs.
I just can't stand the 'minimalistic' original skull graphics anymore...yuck!
They're based on Corporal Punishment's idea and artwork with minor modifications (as seen in the BoS45 demo)...but I've also created a new version with new head graphics for WIA and KIA soldiers (I didn't like Cpl Punishment's KIA skull and WIA head).

Some screenies of my latest soldier heads thingie...they're from CCTLD, sorry...I haven't got a recent screenshot of CCWAR ready.





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#10: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:23 am
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what do you think of these heads


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#11: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:18 am
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Nice...better than skulls...but I definitely prefer my set of heads  Cool

#12: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:03 am
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Squadleader_id:

I like those uniforms,I wouldnt mind using them once your all done.
I also like the new Soldier head Icons.Love the bandage but can't make out the Dead soldier.

I'm still looking for images to use for the BGIcons,trying to find some to use for the different Soldiers seems to be the hardest to find.I'm sick and tired of the stock Icons and how some are used way to many times over.

I figure thats my first step,then having a Jeep,then Force Pools.

#13: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:51 pm
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schrecken wrote (View Post):
what do you think of these heads


I prefer Squadleaders heath icons, sorry Schrecken.

Squadleader,
I realy like what you did with the battlegroup unit icons. They look like they would be much easier to make out during the heat of battle.

#14: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:20 pm
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):
Squadleader_id:

I like those uniforms,I wouldnt mind using them once your all done.
I also like the new Soldier head Icons.Love the bandage but can't make out the Dead soldier.


Thanks...I'll send you the uniforms.txt file when I'm done fiddling with it a bit more.
As for KIA soldier heads, Cpl Punishment used a 3D style skull...but they look more like faces with white masks.
I tried experimenting with faded/blurry heads for KIA...but they don't really stand out...especially next to bandaged heads.  Since the face is so small...a face with closed eyes just didn't work either...and I didn't want a face crossed out with an "X" or something like that.  So I came up with the "slumped" dead soldier design...with just the top of the head/helmet remaining in view ...and the red background standing out.  Artistically...you can look at the KIA head as either the soldier died and is slumped on the ground...or he's gone and only the helmet is left  Smile
Just like the original red skull design..it's really easy to spot KIAs in your squads in the heat of battle...this time just look for those slumped heads and helmets.

BTW, Cpl Punishment's original design featured just the head graphics without the background color...I decided to add the background color since we're used to seeing those tiny skulls in green, yellow, orange, red and white  Wink

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I'm still looking for images to use for the BGIcons,trying to find some to use for the different Soldiers seems to be the hardest to find.I'm sick and tired of the stock Icons and how some are used way to many times over.

I figure thats my first step,then having a Jeep,then Force Pools.


I'm actually 'qualified' to work on custom BG Icons (see my BoS45 mod)...but they take way too much time  Sad


Digs wrote:

Squadleader,
I realy like what you did with the battlegroup unit icons. They look like they would be much easier to make out during the heat of battle.


BTW Digs, the BG Icons in CCTLD are not my work...IIRC Jim Martin (S3T) designed them based on Neil Nello's work on the CCMT BG Icons.  Personally I like them a lot...I like the wargamey style...but lots of CC vets prefer either B/W WW2 photos or color artwork like the original CC4/CC5.

#15: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:54 pm
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Artistic considerations asside....

The new BG Team icons are by far the easiest to recognise during a hectic battle... way a head of photos and CC4/5 styled artwork

#16: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: mooxe PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:06 pm
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I wouldnt say way ahead. The artwork from the originals is just that, art. This new stuff was probably ripped from some 20 year old army sim, atleast it looks that way! As with any game, as you play it you start to recognize what icons are and do what. Making a bazooka team icon a bazooka doesnt make it easier, just makes it different and less creative!

Seriously, who had trouble finding the right teams in a hectic battle? They are named first of all, and the artwork usually resembled the teams armament.

I would even venture to say selecting units from the team display is not all that common in a hectic battle.  The team display is more or less to check the status then give orders.

So to sumamrize my moaning... Less simulator graphics and more game artwork.

#17: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:30 pm
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So what new changes would you like see made in a mod, Mooxe?. What do you dislike in WaR?.

#18: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:25 pm
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schrecken wrote (View Post):
Artistic considerations asside....

The new BG Team icons are by far the easiest to recognise during a hectic battle... way a head of photos and CC4/5 styled artwork


I actually agree with you on this one, Shreckie  Smile

The best of both worlds would be "artwork" for the BG mainscreens (screengadg)...and "wargame counters" for the battle screens (gamegadg).
It's a matter of preference of course...but AFVs look more appealing presented as "artwork" compared to "wargame counters".
I have to agree with Mooxe though...the "wargame counters" do look a lot easier to (mass) produce  :)

BTW, I personally love the "wargame counters" style because I'm a retired SL/ASL (CC's spiritual ancestor) player  Wink

#19: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: mooxe PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:20 am
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Digs wrote (View Post):
So what new changes would you like see made in a mod, Mooxe?. What do you dislike in WaR?.


WaR would be much more playable with a better strategic map. Either connections must be made between each map, or actual geographical barriers need to be represented on the map. Thats a start.

#20: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: B_GrimLocation: the Lizard Cornwall PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:36 pm
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would like to see a dad's army mod,early 40's
Warmington upon sea, Home guard, 'what if '
captain Mainwaring an all. . .
think i've whished this before..
battle of the bogside mod? perhaps not
Very Happy B

#21: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:55 pm
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I was thinking more of keeping it BoB
Simple stuff to make it more enjoyable and hopefully an AI thats hard but maybe not quite
TT Vetmod hard.
I still need to figure out a good background shade for the Axis but I think I like the Allied background.
And it's still decient Troop images that seem to be the hardest for me to find.
I love the clarity of the zook team.Ignore the text on the Vehicles.That will be removed.



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#22: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 pm
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You're not going to crop the figures/vehicles and paste them into a clear background (like the stock artwork or VetBoB), PM?

#23: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:59 pm
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I was thinking of cropping them yes.It just seems to show the Vehicle better at 80X60 pixels rather than than trying to view the entire Vehicle.
Besides I'm 43 and wear glasses now,Needless to say I see the larger images much better Smile
As for a background I havent decided.I did color the back ground for the M8 but the others I havent done.
The background for the Sdkfz 234-3 I like.(previous post) As with a few others.
I'm trying to come up with a good scenery background to use rather than just a solid color and the Winter background provides a great deal of contrast between the Vehicles and the dark Battlegroup screen (I see the jpeg here doesnt do any justice)

Resizing the Infantry sucks, they havent looked good to me at all.Please feel free to try out the 101st jpeg



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#24: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:24 am
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Based on that 101st model kit box artwork you posted...my preference would be something like this:
BTW, those AB boys are wearing M43 uniforms (green/olive drab)...not Khaki M42 jumpsuits from Normandy :wink



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#25: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: platoon_michaelLocation: Right behind you PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:27 am
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squadleader_id wrote (View Post):
BTW, those AB boys are wearing M43 uniforms (green/olive drab)...not Khaki M42 jumpsuits from Normandy :wink



We all have our pet peeves don’t we? Smile
Any chance you saved that in a .psd format?
Either way I like what you did and wouldn’t mind using that.Can you send it to me?
The yellow outline and the horrid CIV background have to go though.
          (Another one of my pet peeves)
I have a few different ideas on the highlighted Icons but need to try it out and see how it looks ingame.
I was afraid I would have to cut out each soldier and resize em to get it to look right. Is that how you did it?  
It looks like you were able to keep a lot more clarity than I was though.

So what about the Vehicles? You didn’t say whether you liked em cropped or full size. I think cropped would also help in terms of scale in relation to the soldiers.
It's still possible some images may get reused again but hopefully not as many as WAR currently has. Theres 196 slots available to use but im sure they will fill up qiuckly.

I know some people don't like the box art concept but it does help keep the game.....well looking like a game rather than realistic photos.

btw
Thank-You for the help.

#26: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: squadleader_idLocation: Soerabaja PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:43 pm
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):
squadleader_id wrote (View Post):
BTW, those AB boys are wearing M43 uniforms (green/olive drab)...not Khaki M42 jumpsuits from Normandy :wink



We all have our pet peeves don’t we? Smile

These little details are what makes the CC wargame unique.
If you can model historical AFVs, units, weapons, maps based on period aerials etc...what's so hard about doing some research for historically correct uniforms  Wink

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Any chance you saved that in a .psd format?
Either way I like what you did and wouldn’t mind using that.Can you send it to me?
The yellow outline and the horrid CIV background have to go though.
          (Another one of my pet peeves)
I have a few different ideas on the highlighted Icons but need to try it out and see how it looks ingame.
I was afraid I would have to cut out each soldier and resize em to get it to look right. Is that how you did it?  
It looks like you were able to keep a lot more clarity than I was though.


Sure...check your PM box...I'll send the file to ya ASAP.
Yup...cutting each soldier is the way to go...coloring in the background just won't do.
As for clarity...you need to experiment with various image settings and sharpen filters.
Because the CC gadgets are so small...they're almost like pixel-art...sometimes you have to use dodge/burn tool and various brushes.


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So what about the Vehicles? You didn’t say whether you liked em cropped or full size. I think cropped would also help in terms of scale in relation to the soldiers.
It's still possible some images may get reused again but hopefully not as many as WAR currently has. Theres 196 slots available to use but im sure they will fill up qiuckly.

I know some people don't like the box art concept but it does help keep the game.....well looking like a game rather than realistic photos.

btw
Thank-You for the help.


For vehicles...my preference is cropped (and pasted to a new basic background).
Check out my mod's screenshot gallery if you want to see what I did with vehicles.

#27: Re: Mod Wish List.......... Author: DigsLocation: Ontario, Canada PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:08 am
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1. It would be nice to see more Kar43's being used, everybody has Kar98k's.  :(

2. Create a vetmod for stock Wacht am Rhein.

3. New voice files.



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