Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:59 amPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:06 amPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:07 amPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:48 amPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:14 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:26 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:26 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:28 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:38 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 12:47 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 3:08 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 7:53 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:06 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:11 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:36 pmPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:01 pm
No I dont give out anny key that work one a new site. 
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| THE ENCLOSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THIS MANUAL ARE COPYRIGHTED. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MAY PRINT OR HAVE A PRINT/COPY SHOP MAKE A PRINTOUT AND/OR COPY OF THE MANUAL. MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC GRANTS THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THE RIGHT TO USE ONE COPY OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. YOU MAY NOT RENT OR LEASE IT, DISASSEMBLE, DECOMPILE, REVERSE ENGINEER, OR MODIFY THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY. ALL EDITORS MAY BE USED TO CREATE SCENARIOS THAT MAY BE FREELY DISTRIBUTED. ALL SCENARIO AUTHORS HOLD THE ULTIMATE RIGHTS TO THEIR DESIGNED SCENARIOS AND MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC MAKES NO CLAIMS THEREOF. YOU MAY NOT COPY OR DISTRIBUTE COPIES IN ANY MEDIA FORM. ANY PERSONS DOING SO SHALL BE GUILTY OF COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND SUBjECT TO THE APPROPRIATE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL ACTION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER. |
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No copyrighted or trademarked (warez) material will be tolerated. |
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:25 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:15 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:24 pm| -Jager- wrote (View Post): |
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No I dont give out anny key that work one a new site.
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I want a working game.
I also feel entitled to a free game for the many hours I've put in for Beta testing WAR. |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:13 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): |
| I have to agree with vonB, only a moron would have posted the serial to the forums. A PM and no one would have known, but the fact that it was posted and then ignored by the admin is just dumb. Things like that is why you probably get shitty responses from them. If I was one of them and saw this shit I'd say screw them too. |
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No I dont give out anny key that work one a new site.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:36 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): |
| I've helped 3 old ladies cross the road. I feel entitled to always getting the right of way while driving even with people in crosswalks for all the times I've helped old ladies across. It entitles me to whatever I want, even though I did it of my own free will |
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| Seriously? The best way to get a developer to help you is to be a positive supporter of the game. Simply bashing their hard work because there are still errors and then demanding an immediate fix because somehow you are entitled to it it a bit much. |
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| Certainly they have an obligation to fix a product when it contains major errors, |
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| however I don't see you freaking out all over the Microsoft forums because Windows has sucked since 1995. |
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| have you received a free copy of every Windows update since you started using it? |
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It's funny to read the posts by some of you. "Blah blah blah I'm entitled to this and that...."
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How many other products have you purchased that have issues and have you gotten to the same level of stupidity?
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| Have you ever gotten laid by telling a girl "well since I'm paying for dinner and the movie tonight |
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YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH ME because I feel entitled for doing x, y and z."
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Isn't there a little bit of sanity here?
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| All the things I've read across the different CC forums are now making much more sense.... |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:34 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:41 pm| Tejszd wrote (View Post): |
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Having said that WAR/TLD could probably use another patch each.... |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:59 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:06 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:45 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:55 pm| schrecken wrote (View Post): |
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Stalky... once again you show yourself to be an idiot.
Sorry, I can't say it more nicely. You only ever visit the forums to carry on like a crying girl. go away. |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:05 pm| schrecken wrote (View Post): |
| All it needs is the will to do it and that I'm afraid is an upper management decision.... the same people that haven't made the decision to fix the CoI MMCC3 servers or to patch CCMT/WaR/tLD adequately despite the large number of reported problems. |
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| This all makes me rather sad actually.... at the , so far, lost opportunities for this series of games. |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:10 pmPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:38 pm| AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
| A few comments and reflections, hope you dont mind |
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| But, what if the ladies made money from the “street walking”? Wouldn’t you want some compensation then, I mean a part of the action? Seems fair to me. |
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Ohh, ppl do all the time, I do to.. Have you missed that. But I cant see ole Bill bashing the complainers though. He’s acting professional, and support his products. Is that bad? |
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Hm, I get free updates of there product at a regular basis, I believed everyone with a legal copy of there product receive that? That seem to be a good practice to me? |
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I know, those damned consumers, how dare they ask for working product and professional consumer support? What’s next? |
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Where is this leading to? I have never needed such service. But in some parts of the world that’s legal I believe? |
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Lets see, analog. Well, if your paying for it, (a prostitute) then you should demand she for filled here part of the deal. Sort of like, ppl paid for getting good working games, and service, patches? Is that to much to ask for? |
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How can u expect that, with a community made up by all the immorality, all the illegal things? |
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Between all the frustration, all the let downs, I just wanted a working game, yet there is no patches, that dont make much sence to me |
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:54 pm| AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
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A little reminder to you Schrecky:
A glimmer of hope, a little glimmer of honesty... of self critisism, In the midst of all the insults. The qoutes are from here: http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=quote&p=50467 I do feel the same frustration Schrecky. |
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) I'm sure Matrix is working on another patch, fixing the recent probs with tLD, haven't done any programming myself, but even in a user-friendly UI as Excel or Access it's easy to create a new problem when you fix an old. They are supporting their games, maybe slow and sometimes stumbling, but the patches are coming. (We must realise that CC isn't a great money-cow for Matrix, it's not really WoW or CS numbers in the balancing of the books on the CC account. I couldn't even buy tLD it in a store here in Gävle, Sweden's eight biggest city!)
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:59 am| mooxe wrote (View Post): |
| The conclusion to this thread was very funny. There must be some irony in here somewhere. |
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:25 am| Tejszd wrote (View Post): |
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11/15/2007 Released 01/03/2008 Patch v2007.12.12.1 |
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:23 amPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:56 pm| Stwa wrote (View Post): | ||
This comment is total dishonesty and the author knows it. The "patch" was filled with new content mostly, as this material missed the original release date. The existing missions needed to be re-built with the exe, and most bugs and data errors were not addressed. This "patch" turned CCMT into a cluster fuck.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:24 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): |
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I'd certainly like to do something to get Matrix (or whoever is in charge of product support) to act on these issues. I can't imagine the developers want to release a buggy product that has issues. It's just a matter of making them act. |
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:11 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): | ||||
There is nothing to say that a "patch" actually has to work. I use "Battlecruiser 3000AD" as an example. For those of you who know about Computer Gaming History, hopefully you are all laughing about now. Now does it suck if that happens? Of course and it happens quite a bit. It's not just in CC. Is that total dishonesty? No. He was stating the date a patch was released. He was not commenting on whether it fixed issue or not. I'd certainly like to do something to get Matrix (or whoever is in charge of product support) to act on these issues. I can't imagine the developers want to release a buggy product that has issues. It's just a matter of making them act. I've noticed Matrix has no physical address and no listed phone number on their website. Does anyone have this information? I'm trying to get them to act on the MMCC3 servers. I encourage everyone else to help by filing Help Desk reports about the servers. Start with a small victory and then maybe move onto the big stuff. |
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Umm...Matrix 'only' publish the games...S3T=the developers...and the bulk of S3T's staff are working on these CC re-releases as non full-time volunteers...CMIIW
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No, actually, HE WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT CC GAMES WERE SUPPORTED. And he used a series of posts, including the one quoted to make that point. My contention is, IT WAS NOT REALLY A PATCH. It was mainly original game content that WAS NOT COMPLETED in time for the scheduled release date. Oh, and they fixed a few bugs in the exe. Woooo! |
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My contention is that no matter what you personal understanding of patch is, what was mentioned was indeed a patch. It simply did not do everything that was required. And you admit that it does add content that did me the ship date and fix a few bugs. That seems to me to be a patch. Who cares if they get paid? They should if they are working. If they want to volunteer to help something they love, by all means! But who gives a shit. We all seem to be in agreement on trying to get a patch done for the re-releases. Instead of being douchebags about it why not try to be positive in interactions with them and maybe create a friendship that would aid in patch process. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I've hit the nail on the head...but I do know that the crap I read a lot here (that seems to be posted for the sole purpose of creating feuds) has to stop. Stop the knee jerk asshole replies and if you don't have some constructive and positive to say or want or willing to help....go piss on someone else's grave. You're getting the bottom of my pants wet. |
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Well, then stop calling people douchebags and assholes for openers. And I did ask nicely over a year ago. Of course you werent around then. And its not a knee jerk, either. I have been thinking about this for a very long time. |
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And as I mentioned before, I don't see it as a patch. It was a rush job to get stuff in that was late for the initial release. And it did not SUPPORT the product, much. It messed it up instead!
BTW, I could care less who gets paid. I just mentioned, its my belief someone IS getting paid. Why don't YOU work with em for the next few years to get the patches out. Yea, that's the ticket. |
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:03 amPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:38 amPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:56 amPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 11:10 am| 7A_Woulf wrote (View Post): |
| We can discuss finer legal matters until we hate each other (...even more...), but the game-key or serial is a part of the original game and a way to stop illegal copies of a copyrighted product. |
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The other side of the coin is the discussion about patches and working games. As customers we have the right to get working products, customers support and eventually patches that fixes problems with the original product. But honestly? -Who have bought an OS or a game that don't requires patching? (The Windows-series is the crown-jewel among these in my eyes, SP's, security patches and upgrades in layers. It may take hours after an installation to upgrade the OS to a secure, working level... )
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| CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. |
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| CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. It's biggest problem isn't the data or the game engine but that it has no game part to it, a CC3/COI or CC4/5 or WAR/TLD campaign, for people to play single player. |
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All those legal issues, important are they not. The consumer buy law (KKL). To not fix (or refund) the dysfunctional product when it’s pointed out, is illegal. To sell a product with known problems, is illegal. In the marketing law (MFL). Its illegal to sell a product that doesn’t match its description. Its illegal for a company or its representatives to communicate with prospect consumer without clearly showing there true flag, (example: as posting here, and not say one is a representative from the developer or distributor). Yep, we must take a firm stand against the decadence, the immorality, the illegal activity’s in the CC community. Where does one start, how about: Who wants there money back, or, who wants a working game? |
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The keys aren't removed because as the op stated, they don't work, not because CCS has aspirations to become second pirate bay. |
(Oh, yes. I'm a self-righteous asshole, but I have paid for every game, record or film I've ever got by my own. Think I have one game and three CD's that friends have copied for me as gifts... 
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If it's a norm, then computer programs should have a clear warning that it's not finished in it's feature list and should have an information about how it's going to be supported. Anything less is a fraud. Personally, I won't buy any game from Matrix Games. I won't tolerate conmen, who repay honest paying customers with selling games with fictional features that are in feature description and they didn't bother to implement ("Accurate and realistic modern equipment modeling" and "Accurately depicting modern tactical warfare and it’s challenge") and don't give a clear warning that they sell faulty games (non-functional AI in CCMT for example). It's hilarious that the same people that whine about how torrenting a copy of their work is stealing but at the same time don't have any problems with conning money from their honest paying customers. |
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:08 pm| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| Ok, that's me. Peace and Love to all. |
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:14 pm| 7A_Woulf wrote (View Post): |
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But my latest experience of a new release (tLD) is that they are trying to support it. I can admit that the original game was a sad story, not properly tested and released to soon, and personally I waited half a year before I bought it so the worst flaws would have been patched. We all wants a working product, and that's our right as paying customers, but remember that there's no, or little, money in the CC series of games, so they can't put down thousands of man-hours in the new releases and if I got it right: the original code seems to be missing too, making programming a lot harder. Let's just hope that they can release a final, working patch for tLD (...and the other games too!) and maybe they crack the coding problem one day, so we can get a decent AI experience as well. |
) that clearly want to see CC continue. I have no idea how to contact anyone involved.
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| So am I just a newbie idealist |
I have been at CC for over a decade and am still an idealist. I think the game encourages you to want that, so join the club!
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| I've noticed there are beta patches to the games. |
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:46 pmPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:52 pmPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:16 pmPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:18 pmPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:15 pm| 7A_Woulf wrote (View Post): |
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Never said anything about CCS, just a remark about the laws, ethics and moral around the pirate copying debate. (Oh, yes.
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Well, I get a feeling that it's a norm; -and if it's a norm, why demand warning texts?
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Also a bit of history.
The CC series had quite a large base of volunteer testers from this community.... Unfortunately during the production of CCMT someone "released" the test build of the game to the torrent download sites. |
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| To say the least, this has severely impacted the ability to test patches/upgrades. |
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| "trust" is something that has to be earned. |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:02 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:07 am| Therion wrote (View Post): |
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Note that it's always about how evil pirates are "stealing" from "poor" developers. Gaming magazines tend to present developers/publishers in role of victims.
But I have never seen magazines demanding respect for law and customer rights from developers. |
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 2:31 am| schrecken wrote (View Post): |
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The CC series had quite a large base of volunteer testers from this community.... Unfortunately during the production of CCMT someone "released" the test build of the game to the torrent download sites. Sapa among others downloaded it and posted his thoughts.... luckily it was infested with trojans and all downloaders have been suffering since. Due to this all the testers were let go by Matrix and "trust" is something that has to be earned. To say the least, this has severely impacted the ability to test patches/upgrades. |
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:35 am| vonB wrote (View Post): |
| Stealing is stealing whether it is from 'poor' or 'rich' developers. If someone stole something from you that you owned, I am sure you would think that is just fine... |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:28 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:40 am| schrecken wrote (View Post): |
| We all got one of those to test on. Therion got a Polonez Caro 'cause his video card couldn't drive that screen. |
Real stuff purchased by Pirates using Pirate Money becomes Pirate Stuff...
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:11 am| vonB wrote (View Post): |
| Alas, there are those with no scruples, and likely double standards. I wonder what they would think if they had their own work stolen? |
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:16 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:23 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:40 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:49 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:02 am| southern_land wrote (View Post): |
| I play it on three d screens when in my Matrix supplied mansion but when I'm in my matrix supplied apartments around the world I rely on six matrix supplied laptops hooked up in series between snorting lines of coke and bomking supermodels. there yuh go Stwa, that should give you a aneurysm. |
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A farting dog barks first
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:03 am
I have spent the majority of the last year in the CCMT forum. From there I watch others wind up whenever they feel like it.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:29 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:30 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:34 am| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
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Ok, I'm confused... do you think I'm Schrecken? Firstly, I'm not a noob, and I'm not a troll.
On the count of the first, my original handle was Cpl_Punishment, which was initiated about... I don't know, I'd have to log in to check, but it's at least two years ago, possibly five... but I've used the Hoogley nick' in so many other places (CSO included) that I wanted continuity. I tried to change my nickname for my original CCS account, but it wouldn't let me, so I just started a new one. I couldn't care less about the cred loss... well, I didn't really have anyway. :] I've been playing Close Combat since before the turn of the century, so mate... noob I ain't. On the count of the second... actually, I'm not entirely sure what a "troll" is. Is this the thing about me being one of the Matrix guys pretending to be someone else in order to add to their argument? Because I'm not that either. Don't believe me? Go check out this CSO Forum thread. I am a community member, not a ghost in the machine. I am agressive and funny. That's who I am. And, thank you for noticing.
Again, can I ask what the problems are with the games? I honestly don't know what the brouhaha is about. The only thing I've noticed that has changed and, yes, shits me somewhat, is that it seems now that even elite troops, when moving normally in the open, will discount their orders the moment somebody shoots at them. I figured the dev's did this on purpose to make the game more realistic and challenging. I may however be wrong; don't know. I also realise the reason I am annoyed about this is because it means I need to rethink how I play, so that may not turn out to be Matrix' issue but mine; time will tell whether I change my mind on this point. I also haven't really played CCMT much yet, so I know that it's entirely possible that it actually does have serious issues; I just don't know what they are. I'm not on the side of the Matrix guys per se, I just think that arguing for pirating software is retarded. You are arguing for theft, and that means you are ok if people rob you blind!!!!, because if you are ok to rob somebody else, what's the problem if they return the favour? If you're going to thieve, fine, but don't ask for acceptance for it, because last time I checked it was internationally frowned upon. There is a good reason for that. This is why I got the shits with the initiator of this thread, because he was a douchebag for being a thief and getting pissed off with people for calling him a thief; WTF???????????? The other side? If you don't like Matrix' products, don't buy them or play them. Don't give them money and they'll stop making the games. Easy. That is how a trade society works; if you don't like something you don't endorse it, and if enough people don't like it then it stops being made. This is not what I want, however, so I'm fine to pay money for the remakes; issues or no. I really do think that everbody arguing about this is stupid; me included. But it is fun, which is why I just wasted ten minutes of my life responding to your angry, conspiratorial, and very piratey argument. So keep going; you make me laugh.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:34 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:40 amPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:46 am| Cpl_Punishment wrote (View Post): |
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Stwa: I will have to check out the CCMT forums. I am hoping I do not despair when I read. Cheers.
And again, sorry for riling you up. I am only tooling about. |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:27 am| Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
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What a funny thread .
appears vonB is Beeb
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=50613#50613
couple of days ago my bet was that Dundradal was Drill but who knows, maybe he is flamethrower or someone worse .
it's always funny to read some "noobs" that have made some 90 posts in 2 monthes after joining with such "deep" insight...but he always reminds, that he doesn't know, he is just reading . yeah, and don't forget to post links to CSO
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couple of days ago my bet was that Dundradal was Drill but who knows, maybe he is flamethrower or someone worse .
it's always funny to read some "noobs" that have made some 90 posts in 2 monthes after joining with such "deep" insight...but he always reminds, that he doesn't know, he is just reading . yeah, and don't forget to post links to CSO
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:12 pm| Stwa wrote (View Post): |
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A quote from Drill, God I am confused
What's funny is that in a community so small you'd think you'd relish having new people show up to become active. I wonder how many have said "fuck it" after little things like this. I can imagine a lot. Luckily, I'm used to how stupid the internet is and can look past it in order to find the good. You need to have bigger tits to be accepted around here.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:16 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): | ||
Bigger tits? Ahh yes the age old problem. If you want tits there are millions of porn websites out there. If you came here looking for tits, you have more problems than I thought.
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:24 pmPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:32 pm| Dundradal wrote (View Post): |
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"What's that coming out of her nose?"
"Spaceballs?" "Oh shit. There goes the planet." But really, it's really great to have your fresh and inspiring insight in this thread. From pirate talk to scrooge talk, you've been a bastion of sanity and critical thinking that I believe is lacking from the internet. Bravo good sir. Bravo. In all honesty, I'm just trying to learn about what's happened to CC in the decade I didn't pay attention. That's all. |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:30 pmPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:46 pm| vonB wrote (View Post): | ||||
I'll second that. What you do defines you.
Stealing is stealing whether it is from 'poor' or 'rich' developers. If someone stole something from you that you owned, I am sure you would think that is just fine... To try and justify Copywrite infringement on the basis that you believe a game is not a 'finished product' is still invalid. |
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| There are masses of 'free' games available. I remember one called 'Firefight'. A one man band development that wasn't half bad, and gave a good tactical game. Many of the old titles are available at a budget price. Heck, people spend twice as much in an evening drinking themselves stupid and pissing their money away. I couldn't possibly count the number of hours pleasure that CC has given me, bugs and all! |
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So, in the end, there aren't really any good guys, or bad guys, and if you claim to be the former up against the latter, then you're probably just masking guilt. Pay for your games and I bet that guilt will go away, and you'll feel much better about the world. And then you can join us over here on this side of the fence, where we all have every right to complain about lack of developer support, blah de blah, and, you know, on it goes...
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| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| I'm not on the side of the Matrix guys per se, I just think that arguing for pirating software is retarded. You are arguing for theft, and that means you are ok if people rob you blind!!!!, because if you are ok to rob somebody else, what's the problem if they return the favour? If you're going to thieve, fine, but don't ask for acceptance for it, because last time I checked it was internationally frowned upon. There is a good reason for that. This is why I got the shits with the initiator of this thread, because he was a douchebag for being a thief and getting pissed off with people for calling him a thief; WTF???????????? |
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Who (what CCS member), owns the device below
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| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| So, out of interest, what's actually broken with CCMT and CCtLD, respectively? Call it interest, since I've only recently bought the two, and have not yet experienced issues with either. Everybody seems to be quite annoyed about something, so I gather there has to be some major issues with these product that I am yet to experience. |
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:30 am| Therion wrote (View Post): | ||
No. I'm just an angry guy who spent a lot of money on supporting various developers and discovered that the relationship doesn't work in two sides. Here's the ugly truth - you're going extra mile to support them and to be honourable and they're doing extra effort to cheat you. You buy their game instead of torrenting it despite that it would save your money (which is moral, honourable and legal). They are "forgetting" to write about important problems with their games because it would look bad in product description and they are inventing non-existent features to get more money (both of which is immoral, dishonourable and illegal). |
Heck, some of them probably do care, but that doesn't mean they have the power to do anything to improve the situation. Matrix is small fry; our franchise is small fry. To quote the immortal Metallica - "Sad, but true."
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Why so butthurt? Nothing was removed from the inventory. No one robbed anyone - nothing of consequence has happened. No reason to become so agitated. |
I am humbled, sir (or madam). Why so butthurt? Like I said, I just hate hypocracy; if you are a thief, you will be treated like a thief. Did you read the pvt that dude sent in retaliation? I mean, really, he's a douchbag. Period. What is there to argue? Seriously.
| Therion wrote (View Post): |
| I don't understand why he's getting accused of being "piratey". |
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It was explained earlier in this thread. |
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:29 amPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:35 pm| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| What kind of financial support are we talking about? Are we talking outside purchasing the games? Not having a stab; just interested. |
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Honestly? I don't care if their members do frequent these forums; developers' concerns are:
a) Make money. b) Keep you happy (if they think you may impede them achieving point a), or if they think it may help to achieve more of point a). No offence to any of the dev' guys, seriously, but that is just the way of this merchant world. That's how they stay in the game. If you thought more of them than that, then you - like me - are a communist hippy with idealistic principles (unfortunately, I've also become a realist over 36 years of observation. Still wish the world was better. *sigh*). Hmmmm, maybe we should both switch to Linux. |
. It's good to make sure that b) is important for them, though and deny them a) if b) isn't achieved . It can make the world a bit better.
| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| Heck, some of them probably do care, but that doesn't mean they have the power to do anything to improve the situation. Matrix is small fry; our franchise is small fry. To quote the immortal Metallica - "Sad, but true." |
| Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
| Try taking them to court. |
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Except for pathing issues, AI issues, and false claims, there is nothing here that tells me what specific problems exist within the games. Or, are they the problems? Faulty pathing? AI that doesn't do what you want or expect? Bold claims about "realistic-ness" that falls short of the mark? Umm... how has that changed since CCII? I always thought it was just part of the CC experience.
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