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#21: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Dundradal,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:15 am
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knee jerk?

Figured it was common sense.

Strange.

Just doesn't make much sense to me is all.

Whatever I guess.

#22: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: davidssfx,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:19 am
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Should be removed, and if continued ... banned.
just my opinion

Be a man, and go buy it Smile

#23: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:36 am
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Should be deleted/removed Mooxe. Show some class....

#24: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Dundradal,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:36 pm
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Quote:

THE ENCLOSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THIS MANUAL ARE COPYRIGHTED. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MAY PRINT OR HAVE A PRINT/COPY SHOP MAKE A PRINTOUT AND/OR COPY OF THE MANUAL. MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC GRANTS THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THE RIGHT TO USE ONE COPY OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. YOU MAY NOT RENT OR LEASE IT, DISASSEMBLE, DECOMPILE, REVERSE ENGINEER, OR MODIFY THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY. ALL EDITORS MAY BE USED TO CREATE SCENARIOS THAT MAY BE FREELY DISTRIBUTED. ALL SCENARIO AUTHORS HOLD THE ULTIMATE RIGHTS TO THEIR DESIGNED SCENARIOS AND MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC MAKES NO CLAIMS THEREOF. YOU MAY NOT COPY OR DISTRIBUTE COPIES IN ANY MEDIA FORM. ANY PERSONS DOING SO SHALL BE GUILTY OF COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND SUBjECT TO THE APPROPRIATE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL ACTION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER.

Now it sounds like you are just being silly with your whole "show me where it says no sharing serials" well the above statement makes it pretty clear what they are getting at and you (who runs a CC site and should know better) are allowing this thread with it implications to continue to exist. The fact I even have to explain this is mind-numbing. It also explains quite a bit....

Even your own rules say:

Quote:

13. Warez
No copyrighted or trademarked (warez) material will be tolerated.

But let me guess, because it is "only" a serial you doesn't think that qualifies under strict-scrutiny as warez right?

Support the game. Support the Devs. Don't let people steal their hard work for free. It's no wonder I'm running into a wall at Matrix they probably see this shit and say "Fuck'em"

Be an admin and run a community...sorry to say but now it looks more like you just run a crack house and don't care what goes in or out. What benefit does that provide?

#25: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:58 pm
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Dundradal wrote (View Post):

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All those legal issues, important are they not.

The consumer buy law (KKL).

To not fix (or refund) the dysfunctional product when it’s pointed out, is illegal.
To sell a product with known problems, is illegal.

In the marketing law (MFL).

Its illegal to sell a product that doesn’t match its description.
Its illegal for a company or its representatives to communicate with prospect consumer without clearly showing there true flag, (example: as posting here, and not say one is a representative from the developer or distributor).

Yep, we must take a firm stand against the decadence, the immorality, the illegal activity’s in the CC community.

Where does one start, how about:
Who wants there money back, or, who wants a working game?

#26: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 3:25 pm
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I want a working game.
I also feel entitled to a free game for the many hours I've put in for Beta testing WAR.

#27: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: vonB,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:15 pm
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There is no justification for infringement of Copyright. There is a possible case for having your money refunded if the game does not work on your PC, but you had better be able to prove that it is because the game is 'broken, that is it does not work on a PC according to the specifications stated, and I think you would have a hard time doing that, because they patently do work on PC's according to the stated specifications. If I were responsible for selling the Game, I would certainly consider a refund if the buyer could demonstrate that it would not work on his/her PC, after providing technical support which proved unsuccessful, but that is just my opinion.

To allow the use of a Web Site to engage in Copywrite infringement has been tested in Law, and the owners of a Web Site are culpable, and can be sued. A Disclaimer does not in this case release the owner(s) from this liability.

What never ceases to amaze me is the stupidity of those who engage in Copywrite infringement. Jager for example could have merely sent the Serial Number in a Private Message, and nobody would have been the wiser. That is not a statement in support of Copywrite infringement, but an illustration of their stupidity.

Most of the arguments put forward in support of Copysrite infringement are bollox. What makes me feel contempt for most of them is the double standards (hypocrisy) that they have. If you were to create your own game, Copywrite it, and offer it for sale, you would be jusified in being upset if it were to be pirated, as that would in effect be stealing from you. I can't beleive anyone who does this would be happy to have their work stolen, and if they said they would, I would not believe them. Would you?

I have some sympathy with the standpoint of a Web Site Owner declaring that they do not support illegal activities and disclaim repsonsibility. The opinions and the actions of visitors and members may not indeed represent the views of the owner(s), but like I said, this has now been tested in Law, and Web Site Owner(s) cannot avoid liability. Whether any action is taken against them will depend on the scope of the infringement (how big the Web Site, how intense the amount of infringement, and how active the 'injured' parties choose to be with regard to litigation, etc). In my experience, Destineer are not shy of litigation.

As to what kind of of opinion you may have with regards to any Web Site that allows Copywrite infringement to take place, I leave up to you. I know if I wanted to be trusted and respected, how I would choose....

#28: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:24 pm
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Seem, some missed the point:

-Jager- wrote (View Post):

No I dont give out anny key that work one a new site. Shocked

#29: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: tedy28,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:27 pm
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send the code on the priv ok:))
publishing forum Sad

(no

who is looking 5.00.07 patch craked ???... pls only private message:)))

#30: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Dundradal,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:58 pm
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platoon_michael wrote (View Post):

I want a working game.
I also feel entitled to a free game for the many hours I've put in for Beta testing WAR.

You feel "entitled" to a free game for beta testing on your own free will?

I've helped 3 old ladies cross the road. I feel entitled to always getting the right of way while driving even with people in crosswalks for all the times I've helped old ladies across. It entitles me to whatever I want, even though I did it of my own free will.

Seriously? The best way to get a developer to help you is to be a positive supporter of the game. Simply bashing their hard work because there are still errors and then demanding an immediate fix because somehow you are entitled to it it a bit much.

Certainly they have an obligation to fix a product when it contains major errors, however I don't see you freaking out all over the Microsoft forums because Windows has sucked since 1995. Think of all the hours you've wasted when their OS has screwed up...have you received a free copy of every Windows update since you started using it?

It's funny to read the posts by some of you. "Blah blah blah I'm entitled to this and that...." How many other products have you purchased that have issues and have you gotten to the same level of stupidity?

Why not try to create a positive relationship with those working on the games? Have you ever gotten laid by telling a girl "well since I'm paying for dinner and the movie tonight YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH ME because I feel entitled for doing x, y and z."

I have to agree with vonB, only a moron would have posted the serial to the forums. A PM and no one would have known, but the fact that it was posted and then ignored by the admin is just dumb. Things like that is why you probably get shitty responses from them. If I was one of them and saw this shit I'd say screw them too.

Isn't there a little bit of sanity here?

All the things I've read across the different CC forums are now making much more sense....

#31: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:13 pm
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Dundradal wrote (View Post):

I have to agree with vonB, only a moron would have posted the serial to the forums. A PM and no one would have known, but the fact that it was posted and then ignored by the admin is just dumb. Things like that is why you probably get shitty responses from them. If I was one of them and saw this shit I'd say screw them too.

Its the third time now, yet missed the point again:

-Jager- wrote (View Post):

No I dont give out anny key that work one a new site. Shocked

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#32: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:36 pm
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A few comments and reflections, hope you dont mind

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

I've helped 3 old ladies cross the road. I feel entitled to always getting the right of way while driving even with people in crosswalks for all the times I've helped old ladies across. It entitles me to whatever I want, even though I did it of my own free will

But, what if the ladies made money from the “street walking”? Wouldn’t you want some compensation then, I mean a part of the action? Seems fair to me.

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

Seriously? The best way to get a developer to help you is to be a positive supporter of the game. Simply bashing their hard work because there are still errors and then demanding an immediate fix because somehow you are entitled to it it a bit much.

We tried that for years, look what it brought us: ------

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

Certainly they have an obligation to fix a product when it contains major errors,

I do agree, that’s what all the fuss is about.

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

however I don't see you freaking out all over the Microsoft forums because Windows has sucked since 1995.

Ohh, ppl do all the time, I do to.. Have you missed that. But I cant see ole Bill bashing the complainers though. He’s acting professional, and support his products. Is that bad?

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

have you received a free copy of every Windows update since you started using it?

Hm, I get free updates of there product at a regular basis, I believed everyone with a legal copy of there product receive that? That seem to be a good practice to me?

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

It's funny to read the posts by some of you. "Blah blah blah I'm entitled to this and that...."

I know, those damned consumers, how dare they ask for working product and professional consumer support? What’s next?

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

How many other products have you purchased that have issues and have you gotten to the same level of stupidity?

Not that many, I had a series of bad luck with some aegg clocks though,

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

Have you ever gotten laid by telling a girl "well since I'm paying for dinner and the movie tonight

Where is this leading to? I have never needed such service. But in some parts of the world that’s legal I believe?

Continued:

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH ME because I feel entitled for doing x, y and z."

Lets see, analog. Well, if your paying for it, (a prostitute) then you should demand she for filled here part of the deal. Sort of like, ppl paid for getting good working games, and service, patches? Is that to much to ask for?

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

Isn't there a little bit of sanity here?

How can u expect that, with a community made up by all the immorality, all the illegal things?

Dundradal wrote (View Post):

All the things I've read across the different CC forums are now making much more sense....

Between all the frustration, all the let downs, I just wanted a working game, yet there is no patches, that dont make much sence to me

#33: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:34 pm
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COI
2/13/2007 Released
11/2/2009 Patch v3.50.01

WAR
10/28/2008 Released
03/04/2009 2nd Patch v4.50.07b

TLD
04/29/2009 Released V5.50
11/03/2009 3rd Patch v5.50.07

It looks like they are providing support for the games. COI was patched over 2.5 years after it was released!

Having said that WAR/TLD could probably use another patch each....

#34: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:41 pm
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Tejszd wrote (View Post):

Having said that WAR/TLD could probably use another patch each....

The number of patches say nothing.
How many bad patches makes up for one good?

BTW; How about CCMT?

#35: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:59 pm
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CCMT
11/15/2007 Released
01/03/2008 Patch v2007.12.12.1

#36: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:06 pm
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Yes,

But is it any good?

Its now 2010, 2.5 years later and its still unplayable with that patch.

#37: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:45 pm
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Stalky... once again you show yourself to be an idiot.

Sorry, I can't say it more nicely.

You only ever visit the forums to carry on like a crying girl.

go away.

#38: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:55 pm
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schrecken wrote (View Post):

Stalky... once again you show yourself to be an idiot.

Sorry, I can't say it more nicely.

You only ever visit the forums to carry on like a crying girl.

go away.

I know you are unable to.
That’s sad consider your the Matrix Consumer relation man. And also the developer team leader.

But some how, your respond, is in line with yer products.

The only question is, in what way does it make the products better?

I mean, your spent 3 years handling the feedback in this manner, trying to change the displeased consumers rather then fixing the products.

How has that worked for you?

#39: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: AT_Stalky,

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:05 pm
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A little reminder to you Schrecky:

schrecken wrote (View Post):

All it needs is the will to do it and that I'm afraid is an upper management decision.... the same people that haven't made the decision to fix the CoI MMCC3 servers or to patch CCMT/WaR/tLD adequately despite the large number of reported problems.

schrecken wrote (View Post):

This all makes me rather sad actually.... at the , so far, lost opportunities for this series of games.

A glimmer of hope, a little glimmer of honesty... of self critisism, In the midst of all the insults.

The qoutes are from here:
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=quote&p=50467

I do feel the same frustration Schrecky.

#40: Re: The Longest Day serial needed Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:10 pm
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CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. It's biggest problem isn't the data or the game engine but that it has no game part to it, a CC3/COI or CC4/5 or WAR/TLD campaign, for people to play single player.

All the excuses/reasons for assisting with and or pirating CC do not change the fact that it lowers sales and it could be enough that they decide to not make another CC release.

Some maybe do not care as they do not feel it is changing fast enough and that is their choice. For me at least the re-releases are fixing bugs and adding some features and without them we would still be playing a 10 year old buggy release of CC5....

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