AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
A few comments and reflections, hope you dont mind |
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But, what if the ladies made money from the “street walking”? Wouldn’t you want some compensation then, I mean a part of the action? Seems fair to me. |
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We tried that for years, look what it brought us: ------ |
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I do agree, that’s what all the fuss is about. |
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Ohh, ppl do all the time, I do to.. Have you missed that. But I cant see ole Bill bashing the complainers though. He’s acting professional, and support his products. Is that bad? |
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Hm, I get free updates of there product at a regular basis, I believed everyone with a legal copy of there product receive that? That seem to be a good practice to me? |
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I know, those damned consumers, how dare they ask for working product and professional consumer support? What’s next? |
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Not that many, I had a series of bad luck with some aegg clocks though, |
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Where is this leading to? I have never needed such service. But in some parts of the world that’s legal I believe? |
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Lets see, analog. Well, if your paying for it, (a prostitute) then you should demand she for filled here part of the deal. Sort of like, ppl paid for getting good working games, and service, patches? Is that to much to ask for? |
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How can u expect that, with a community made up by all the immorality, all the illegal things? |
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Between all the frustration, all the let downs, I just wanted a working game, yet there is no patches, that dont make much sence to me |
AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
A little reminder to you Schrecky:
A glimmer of hope, a little glimmer of honesty... of self critisism, In the midst of all the insults. The qoutes are from here: http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=quote&p=50467 I do feel the same frustration Schrecky. |
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a little glimmer of honesty |
mooxe wrote (View Post): |
The conclusion to this thread was very funny. There must be some irony in here somewhere. |
Tejszd wrote (View Post): |
CCMT
11/15/2007 Released 01/03/2008 Patch v2007.12.12.1 |
Stwa wrote (View Post): | ||
This comment is total dishonesty and the author knows it. The "patch" was filled with new content mostly, as this material missed the original release date. The existing missions needed to be re-built with the exe, and most bugs and data errors were not addressed. This "patch" turned CCMT into a cluster fuck. |
Dundradal wrote (View Post): |
I'd certainly like to do something to get Matrix (or whoever is in charge of product support) to act on these issues. I can't imagine the developers want to release a buggy product that has issues. It's just a matter of making them act. |
Dundradal wrote (View Post): | ||||
There is nothing to say that a "patch" actually has to work. I use "Battlecruiser 3000AD" as an example. For those of you who know about Computer Gaming History, hopefully you are all laughing about now. Now does it suck if that happens? Of course and it happens quite a bit. It's not just in CC. Is that total dishonesty? No. He was stating the date a patch was released. He was not commenting on whether it fixed issue or not. I'd certainly like to do something to get Matrix (or whoever is in charge of product support) to act on these issues. I can't imagine the developers want to release a buggy product that has issues. It's just a matter of making them act. I've noticed Matrix has no physical address and no listed phone number on their website. Does anyone have this information? I'm trying to get them to act on the MMCC3 servers. I encourage everyone else to help by filing Help Desk reports about the servers. Start with a small victory and then maybe move onto the big stuff. |
squadleader_id wrote (View Post): | ||
Umm...Matrix 'only' publish the games...S3T=the developers...and the bulk of S3T's staff are working on these CC re-releases as non full-time volunteers...CMIIW |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
No, actually, HE WAS TRYING TO SAY THAT CC GAMES WERE SUPPORTED. And he used a series of posts, including the one quoted to make that point. My contention is, IT WAS NOT REALLY A PATCH. It was mainly original game content that WAS NOT COMPLETED in time for the scheduled release date. Oh, and they fixed a few bugs in the exe. Woooo! |
Dundradal wrote (View Post): | ||
My contention is that no matter what you personal understanding of patch is, what was mentioned was indeed a patch. It simply did not do everything that was required. And you admit that it does add content that did me the ship date and fix a few bugs. That seems to me to be a patch. Who cares if they get paid? They should if they are working. If they want to volunteer to help something they love, by all means! But who gives a shit. We all seem to be in agreement on trying to get a patch done for the re-releases. Instead of being douchebags about it why not try to be positive in interactions with them and maybe create a friendship that would aid in patch process. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I've hit the nail on the head...but I do know that the crap I read a lot here (that seems to be posted for the sole purpose of creating feuds) has to stop. Stop the knee jerk asshole replies and if you don't have some constructive and positive to say or want or willing to help....go piss on someone else's grave. You're getting the bottom of my pants wet. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
Well, then stop calling people douchebags and assholes for openers. And I did ask nicely over a year ago. Of course you werent around then. And its not a knee jerk, either. I have been thinking about this for a very long time. |
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And as I mentioned before, I don't see it as a patch. It was a rush job to get stuff in that was late for the initial release. And it did not SUPPORT the product, much. It messed it up instead!
BTW, I could care less who gets paid. I just mentioned, its my belief someone IS getting paid. Why don't YOU work with em for the next few years to get the patches out. Yea, that's the ticket. |
7A_Woulf wrote (View Post): |
We can discuss finer legal matters until we hate each other (...even more...), but the game-key or serial is a part of the original game and a way to stop illegal copies of a copyrighted product. |
7A_Woulf wrote (View Post): |
The other side of the coin is the discussion about patches and working games. As customers we have the right to get working products, customers support and eventually patches that fixes problems with the original product. But honestly? -Who have bought an OS or a game that don't requires patching? (The Windows-series is the crown-jewel among these in my eyes, SP's, security patches and upgrades in layers. It may take hours after an installation to upgrade the OS to a secure, working level... ) |
Tejszd wrote (View Post): |
CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. |
Tejszd wrote (View Post): |
CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. It's biggest problem isn't the data or the game engine but that it has no game part to it, a CC3/COI or CC4/5 or WAR/TLD campaign, for people to play single player. |
AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): | ||
All those legal issues, important are they not. The consumer buy law (KKL). To not fix (or refund) the dysfunctional product when it’s pointed out, is illegal. To sell a product with known problems, is illegal. In the marketing law (MFL). Its illegal to sell a product that doesn’t match its description. Its illegal for a company or its representatives to communicate with prospect consumer without clearly showing there true flag, (example: as posting here, and not say one is a representative from the developer or distributor). Yep, we must take a firm stand against the decadence, the immorality, the illegal activity’s in the CC community. Where does one start, how about: Who wants there money back, or, who wants a working game? |
Therion wrote (View Post): | ||
The keys aren't removed because as the op stated, they don't work, not because CCS has aspirations to become second pirate bay. |
Therion wrote (View Post): | ||
If it's a norm, then computer programs should have a clear warning that it's not finished in it's feature list and should have an information about how it's going to be supported. Anything less is a fraud. Personally, I won't buy any game from Matrix Games. I won't tolerate conmen, who repay honest paying customers with selling games with fictional features that are in feature description and they didn't bother to implement ("Accurate and realistic modern equipment modeling" and "Accurately depicting modern tactical warfare and it’s challenge") and don't give a clear warning that they sell faulty games (non-functional AI in CCMT for example). It's hilarious that the same people that whine about how torrenting a copy of their work is stealing but at the same time don't have any problems with conning money from their honest paying customers. |
Hoogley wrote (View Post): |
Ok, that's me. Peace and Love to all. |
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