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#1: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:49 am
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These ideas shot to my head immediately after first seeing TLD, ain't no way I'd ever be able to implement them, but (in my very unexperienced mind) they don't sound like too much for the average modder.
I'd be glad if anyone's able to pick up the glove, I think the entire community could benefit from it and if not, well, I can keep on dreaming Very Happy

1. The first thing I was pissed (yeah...actually got me mad) is seeing that the game has taken some from the original CC5, some from the bloody Omaha and some from GJS and of course some new stuff.

But why, why only some?!

Imagine how great it could be if all 3 where united, all the maps we have in our community storage from all 3 mods, basically the entire Normandy area to play with, from Utah to Cherbourg, from Omaha to Treviers and from GJS to beyond Caen.
From the night of June 5th-6th until July 1st.

2. How about letting the Germans start out with Heavy artillery as default (heavy artillery as in the great ground combat mode) and making it dependent on which maps that have had actual Artillery batteries on they can defend?

For example only, heaving the Germans start out with 4 Artillery barrages per day as default, but if the American airborne are able to take out St. Germain they will be reduced to 3, if Azeville is taken it'll be reduced to 2, if the Marville battery is taken then 1, if the Rangers can reach the RN-13 Highway beyond Pont Du Hoc then 0.

Is it at all possible to mode?

Well, that's it so far, if this thread gains some interest by the pro's I'd probably be remembered of all my other dreams...

I wish... Wink

#2: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:52 pm
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Nothing..? really...? Sad

#3: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:11 pm
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Well...

1) The limitation is the numbers of strat-maps, out of my head I think the maximum is 64 in tLD. Same goes for the number of BG's, I think both these numbers are used to the max already.

2) Davidssfx made his TLD Ground Tactics mod where the Jerrys have artillery. Haven't tried it yet, but I've heard it's nice:

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=8207

Try it and see what you think. Cool

Cheers

#4: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:17 pm
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Only 64 maps?! that sucks....isn't there any way around it..?

I checked out Ground Tactics (also mentioned it in the original post and said it was great), but what I'm suggesting is making it dependent on maps, as far as I can remember the Germans only had batteries in St. Germain, Azevile, behind Pont Du Hoc and in Merville.
If the Allies take a map the Germans loose an artillery strike.

#5: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: 7A_Woulf, Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:26 pm
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Rumours says the re-release of CC2 will have 128 maps...

I don't think the artillery depending on maps is possible to achieve, as far as I know there is only two ways to include artillery in a CC game: -Strategic, using the original 'naval-barrage' as artillery (numbers determined in 'XX':\Program\Matrix Games\Close Combat The Longest Day\DATA\BASE\Campaign.txt, great way to change a lot of settings, among them the length of the campaign and numbers of turns per day) or tactical, adding forward observer teams to the Force Pool of the BG's.

I wish there were a way to make anything depending on the map, I have some probs with the Germans in Hoogley's OMG mod since I can't make the FP depending of the deployment of the BGs... Crying or Very sad

#6: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: buuface, Location: Thailand

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:35 am
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theyre good ideas you should post this on the matrix games forum.

You never know... they might include it in one of the next CC games Smile

#7: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: papa_whisky,

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:32 am
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All yor suggestions can't be modded as they are all hard coded in the *.exe

#8: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: Sapa,

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:06 pm
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Im MIA but these kinds of threads makes me wonder...CC is a game from -97. The updated releases is better but it is NOT a new game! Im almost sure of that the new version of CC2 is based on the TlD/ WaR engine with max 64 maps!! If you want a new CC you will probably have to wait for years....

The modders CANT change the limits for the game, coded in the exe...

Welcome! this planet is called The Earth...

#9: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:49 pm
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Quote:

Welcome! this planet is called The Earth...

Sapa is the doorman... tip him on the way through.

#10: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:13 pm
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Sapa wrote (View Post):

Im MIA but these kinds of threads makes me wonder...CC is a game from -97. The updated releases is better but it is NOT a new game! Im almost sure of that the new version of CC2 is based on the TlD/ WaR engine with max 64 maps!! If you want a new CC you will probably have to wait for years....

The modders CANT change the limits for the game, coded in the exe...

Welcome! this planet is called The Earth...

That's why I repeatedly mentioned I never modded and have no clue about it and asked if these could be done at all.

#11: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: Sapa,

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:33 pm
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No it can't and i think that 64 maps is more than enough...ask yourself.. do you play the GC on every each of the the 64 maps? do you play the GC on every of the 44 maps in CC5?? i think that you can answer on your own??? whats the use in adding more maps when you are not using them???

Yes its nice, Smile

but it means a lot of more work for the mapmaker and for what?? The GC is always stuck on the same of maps and the rest is just movement areas...

Sorry if you think i am rude but after years of modding and playing im probablly damaged.... Rolling Eyes

#12: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:52 pm
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Well I've been playing since '97(?? CC5...) and always fantasized about it... when I saw how TLD almost made it I felt it shouldn't be too much to ask I mean all the connections between the beachheads are already there, the maps are already made, just needs some permission from the makers and stick it in there (well, not that easy but you know what I mean...).

Now that I understand the game is limited to only 64 maps I understand it's not possible.

As far as playing on every map and how the game is always narrowed into the same maps:

1) TLD's start map is very narrow, which bottleneck's you into playing the same maps all the time, there's only 1 advance route per each allied BG, there's no room to maneuver at all.

Unlike the wider start maps of WaR and CC5 (and GJS) which actually allows maneuvering, the fact that it's so short on turns also contributes to it.

You'll usually play the paratroops' maps, the beach map and the "last" maps.

2) The retreat function which showed up on WaR and then vanished on TLD makes the game harder, funner and makes you play almost every map out there, I wish someone could figure out already how to enable it on TlD as well...

#13: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:29 pm
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To enable retreat in TLD:

go to \Matrix Games\Close Combat The Longest Day\DATA\BASE\
make a copy of Campaign.txt
then edit/open Campaign.txt
change the zero below to 1

# BGs retreat on rout (0 = disband on rout, 1 = retreat on rout)
0

#14: Re: Some ideas for the modders Author: golani_2,

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:46 pm
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Yeah I know that, but it clashes with something and still isn't enables...

Don't you remember the thread I opened a while ago...?
http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7884&highlight=

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