vonB wrote (View Post):
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I thought twice about posting this, but somebody has to put the points...
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After all, if the Mexicans can burn American flags down there, then surely burning a Koran, is no beeg deal, if you know what I mean.
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Nope, I don't know what you mean. Justifying your own actions based on what others do is suspect logic. Obviously many disagree. On that logic, you are 'free' to commit any crimes you like. In my opinion, it is just an immature testosterone driven retaliation motivation which has more to do with posturing than achieving anything constructive. Nothing to do with reason.
Example: on 9/11, a bunch of nutters flew planes into the WTC buildings, and rubbed out thousands of innocent people. Does that give you the justification to take a couple of planes and fly them into some buildings and rub out thousands of innocent people in return? That's the logic. Eye for an eye and all that.
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vonB wrote (View Post):
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And when has starting a war ever been right? You have to be very careful of your justifications.
Take Iraq. There can be no question that the suffering and death caused by the war was immensely larger than would have been experienced if we had not, to combatants and non combatants alike. So how do you justify such slaughter, for slaughter is what it was. We slaughtered them in their thousands, probably hundreds of thousands.
Ah, it was to 'free' the Iraqi's. Well, that is reasonably compelling as an argument, but unfortunately, what can never be reconciled is whether alternatives could have been used (and they were proposed) which would achieved a similar intent, without the slaughter. That you have to live with. Just say to the Iraqi families whose children were maimed and killed that it was 'for their own good', and pat yourselves on the back for being the 'good guys'.
I accept that the situation in Iraq in terms of freedom from oppressive regimes is better than it was. Does that justify the war? Well, it might, IF it was the only way to achieve it. Was it? We will never know, but I accuse those who went to war for not trying, and I am satisfied they are consequently criminals.
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