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#1: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:08 am
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The Ground Tactics mod for WaR is an attempt to better simulate military tactics used by ground forces in Normandy. The team of AT_Stalky, Dima, Pzt_Kanov, squadleader_id and davidssfx have worked a miracle and brought Normandy fighting to CC:WaR. Using the Vehicle graphics from the Gold-Juno-Sword mod and parts of tLD they have reworked the data, Graphics and maps to bring WaR users a heightened CC experience.

See the Readme for more details.

Please report any errors/bugs/problems in this thread.

Get it here: http://closecombat.matrixgames.com/WaR/WaRmods.html

Thanks for the great effort guys!

Last edited by schrecken on Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:19 am; edited 1 time in total

#2: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: davidssfx,

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:18 am
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Hi schrecken,
Thanks for converting it to WaR Smile

#3: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:59 pm
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Nice, Shreckie!
BTW, with the latest (beta) patches installed...data and graphics are now basically the same for both WAR and TLD, right?
Too bad converting mods will a bit more complicated for LSA Sad

#4: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:10 am
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From original retail release of WaR to Patch 10b and tLD

1. just extend the fpools.txt out to 25 place holders.

2. open tLD CCImages/gamegadgerts/screengadgets and copy WaR gadgets over the top.

3. A very little graphic work needed on BG screen to finish off.

4. expand campaign.txt with required options from tLD

#5: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: Pzt_Kanov, Location: México

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:51 pm
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Could there be in theory a mod for TLD that used the features of LSA? I think it would be a matter of swapping executables and accommodating the files accordingly, that way all version could benefit from the same features.

#6: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:59 pm
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Pzt_Kanov wrote (View Post):

Could there be in theory a mod for TLD that used the features of LSA? I think it would be a matter of swapping executables and accommodating the files accordingly, that way all version could benefit from the same features.

LSA is a different beast AFAIK.
The FP table is still a mystery...then there's the recalculated values in the elements file.
The promised LSA workbook is also still hidden away in the Dev's locker Smile

#7: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: Pzt_Kanov, Location: México

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:11 pm
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but they're still .txt files right? they could be accommodated with some work I think

#8: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:29 pm
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Quote:

think it would be a matter of swapping executables

Then you're talking about a mod of LSA

#9: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:13 pm
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xe5 has explained most of fpools.txt over at matrix forums

#10: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: Pzt_Kanov, Location: México

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:14 pm
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yeah but what if I don't buy LSA but download a tLD mod using the LSA exe? I think that's wrong but I don't know.

#11: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:36 pm
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you need an LSA serial to activate your game.

tLD serials won't work for a LSA exe

#12: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:38 pm
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US AB 60mm mortar has Artillery sound?

#13: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:01 am
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schrecken wrote (View Post):

US AB 60mm mortar has Artillery sound?

What do you mean?
In battle...or in the BG screens (when you click the weapon icons)?

#14: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: schrecken, Location: Sydney, Australia

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:05 am
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In battle... you hear the shot passing overhead.

BG screen sounds fine.

Same in tLD for tLD

#15: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:42 am
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OK...noted, Shreck...
Sounds in GT is David's department...but he's taking time off modding for a bit.

#16: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:45 am
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squadleader_id wrote (View Post):

then there's the recalculated values in the elements file.

Ya the calculations that were changed that made it a requirement to edit the element data will cause a problem....

#17: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:50 am
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Tejszd wrote (View Post):

squadleader_id wrote (View Post):

then there's the recalculated values in the elements file.

Ya the calculations that were changed that made it a requirement to edit the element data will cause a problem....

Unless S3T releases a workbook with formulas for the new values...or better yet...release a template elements file with all the element types needed for mod conversions (and new mods).
IIRC...weapons values and ranges are also slightly tweaked for LSA?

Last edited by squadleader_id on Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:38 am; edited 1 time in total

#18: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: mooxe,

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:12 am
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David are you going to be updating the GT version for WaR?

#19: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: davidssfx,

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:31 am
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schrecken wrote (View Post):

In battle... you hear the shot passing overhead.

BG screen sounds fine.

Same in tLD for tLD

Hi,
60mm and above mortars (including mortar barrage), use a certain size explosion/crater graphic ... which has one specific sound associated to it.
The sound you hear is a real life mortar round ... a split second before it hits and then the explosion/impact.
So, basically ... the sound an incoming shell makes just before impact and its related explosion on impact.

Other Gun HE shells use the same impact/explosion sound too, but it's less noticeable when following the Gun firing sound.
note: a good ear can tell the difference between AP and HE rounds

I like the sound, but it can be changed sometime in the future if some don't like it.

Last edited by davidssfx on Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:17 am; edited 2 times in total

#20: Re: New mod - tLD Ground Tactics for WaR Author: davidssfx,

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:34 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

David are you going to be updating the GT version for WaR?

Hi,
Ground Tactics 1.6 (latest version) was converted for use with WaR by schrecken ... any future version would be applicable to both CC versions (TLD, WaR).
I'm not sure if this is what your question is referring to ... unless there is something wrong with the way it works now in WaR. I don't own WaR ... so am unable to comment on its conversion results.

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