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#1: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: arkturasLocation: United Kingdom PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:44 pm
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Just wanted to know any ones thoughts on this - is it still worth a punt ?
Noticed a number of threads regarding bugs & issues - is it still a good game to buy?

#2: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Tippi-SimoLocation: Helsinki PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:53 pm
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It depends if you have additional ~ 30 quid in your pocket.

#3: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: arkturasLocation: United Kingdom PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:09 pm
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I'm kinda of hoping its a complete remake of the A bridge too far, that was a fantastic theatre.
In my opinion ABTF was a real turning point for the CC series.

#4: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:24 pm
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I think it is worth it.... There are a lot of enhancements in LSA over previous versions of CC which resulted in a lot of the bug posts/talk but with each patch the game is getting the fixes it needs....

#5: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:48 pm
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Been playing a H2H campaign using the 21Beta patch

Great fun and very few issues... certainly none major that we've seen.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=2643756

#6: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Tippi-SimoLocation: Helsinki PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:58 pm
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And as Mooxe said: "welcome to our happy group of beta testers (first invest your 30 quid please)"

Heheh  Smile

#7: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: arkturasLocation: United Kingdom PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:24 pm
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Thanks gents, - an hour to go before the download finishes. Hopefully ill get a chance to run through a few maneuvers before the Mrs calls last rounds.
I opted for the download only version, anyone know where I can get some album covers if I decide to burn it to DVD ?

#8: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Tippi-SimoLocation: Helsinki PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:55 pm
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Try torrent sites.

And I guess you can also use torrent file as your game file when you want to reinstall it. Just deposit your serial number.

#9: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: TrogerLocation: L4W's place, Australia PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:06 pm
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If you come from the originals, stick with them (one exception being CC4/WAR). If some reputable mods such as GJS get ported over to one of the new versions, maybe. All the re-makes are rather dry (weak Grand Campaigns).

At the current time, a modded CC5/CC3 is much more entertaining.

One exception being, if you are a Battle of the Buldge guy, take WAR over CC4.


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#10: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:28 pm
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Hey arkturas what did/do you think?

Just interested as almost everybody here seems to be positive or negative. Doesn't appear to be any middle ground or depth to the feedback....

Here is a site with art for the game: http://www.mobygames.com/game/close-combat-the-longest-day/cover-art/gameCoverId,172842/

#11: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Stwa PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:45 pm
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Troger wrote (View Post):
Do yourself a favor and stick with the originals. All the re-makes feature dry, horrid gameplay but Last Standa Arnhem takes the cake. Don't waste your time or money.


Don't know about COI, WAR, TLD, or LSA. Sometimes, I like to think, I was "smart" enough to not involve myself.

Its not really a money issue. For me, its a time issue.

I bought CCMT, so if you can figure out how to get at the "Updates", this game is neither Dry or HORRID. It avoids, most of the poorly executed features, by simply not including them.

You get a pure wargame, with the best mission editor, and very few system contraints, which allow you to set up any scenario of your choosing.

Data modifications are easy, and the soldier actions, are an outstanding improvement of the base games of the 90's.

#12: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: LostTemple PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:34 am
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Yeah.  Don't waste your money on LSA.  The best mods on CC5 make lsa look like a joke.  Stick to CC5 and enjoy years and years of great mods.

#13: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:44 am
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But then.. you have already shown you're not quite the full quid.

#14: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: pagskier PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:54 am
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I like it more than most stock CC games, but CCV mods beats the shit out of LSA

#15: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Stwa PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:07 pm
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pagskier wrote (View Post):
I like it more than most stock CC games, but CCV mods beats the shit out of LSA


I have been thinking about LSA, so I was wondering if you could elaborate on your remarks.

The reasons I haven't gotten LSA so far, are as follows:

1. I am not sure, but I cant seem to find at least thumbnails of all the maps.

2. It could take years for the debugging to take place, if in fact it is eventually finished.

3. I want to wait until it hits the bargain bin (under $ 20 or $ 15), as a matter of principle (i.e. not money).

#16: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: TejszdLocation: Canada PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:36 am
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Stwa,

LSA comes with a pdf file that has thumbnails and full page map previews;



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#17: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: stienerLocation: Gibsons B.C. canada PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:01 am
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what do you think of LSA Arkturas??

#18: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: schreckenLocation: Sydney, Australia PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 4:57 am
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ARKTURAS


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#19: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: Mintok PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:53 pm
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My brother & I are avid CC fans, LSA for us was a good game - nice remake of CC2:ABTF, IMO.

#20: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing Author: WillKnott PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:05 am
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I like LSA.  I especially like one of the campaign enhancements.  This is the first version that doesnt make a battlegroup completely disband in every case off the map if they lose the battle.  In LSA, if you (or the computer AI) still control an exit VL that leads to a freindly map and force morale drops and the battle ends, your battlegroup will retreat back to that map instead of disappearing to the rear.  

I always hated the way CC4 and CC5 would remove a battlegroup full of men off the map if for the misfortune of one bad battle.  This often left nothing to stop the enemy for several rounds.  Now, if your battlegroup retreats to next map, you can 'live to fight another day'.   Makes playing the PC a little more tolerable too.  Gone are the days of CC5 where you could clean out the first few maps in the campaign vs the computer and walk unopposed all the way in.

I also like the merging of BG's  Nice way to get 2 weaker battlegroups into one stronger battlegroup to keep the fight going.


If the modding eventually starts to use LSA, I think some really nice GC's can be made with these improvements.  GJS and Stalingrad would be some good ones to port up to the new engine.



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