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#1: a map editor & other things Author: falzone,

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:17 pm
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Hey guys,

It's the new guy again... (bare with me if I'm talking old ground..I've had a look through the forums but may have missed something)

So I've just bought MT, TLD and LSA and have all three working very well on my Mac Book Pro this afternoon.... (Using Crossover Pro) I remember years ago playing the demo on my old PC for the very first game and being addicted to it, so I thought I'd check out the newer ones....viola, the same again!

Anyway, I'll get swiftly to the point:

I'm seeing all of these amazing mods and new maps to download here. I was wondering if there were any actual user-friendly map editors out there? Something where you can place houses, street-furniture, etc etc, not just edit scenarios. I think I've seen a couple of editors in the tools sections of downloads but they look rather difficult to use.

Finally, and slightly off topic, is it worth shelling out for the last two CC games that I don't yet have: Cross of Iron and Wacht Am Rhein?

Would be good to hear back,
Thanks,
J

#2: Re: a map editor & other things Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:11 pm
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falzone wrote (View Post):

Hey guys,

It's the new guy again... (bare with me if I'm talking old ground..I've had a look through the forums but may have missed something)

So I've just bought MT, TLD and LSA and have all three working very well on my Mac Book Pro this afternoon.... (Using Crossover Pro) I remember years ago playing the demo on my old PC for the very first game and being addicted to it, so I thought I'd check out the newer ones....viola, the same again!

Anyway, I'll get swiftly to the point:

I'm seeing all of these amazing mods and new maps to download here. I was wondering if there were any actual user-friendly map editors out there? Something where you can place houses, street-furniture, etc etc, not just edit scenarios. I think I've seen a couple of editors in the tools sections of downloads but they look rather difficult to use.

Finally, and slightly off topic, is it worth shelling out for the last two CC games that I don't yet have: Cross of Iron and Wacht Am Rhein?

Would be good to hear back,
Thanks,
J

Theres no easy map editor.

COI is worth it if your original CC3 does not work. COI is essentially CC3 with some fixes so it works on the new versions of Windows. IMO Wacht am Rhein is not worth it, mainly due to the confusing as hell strategic map. All the stop signs you see are maps you cannot move into. I made this "helper" because there are roads you can see on the strat map that go between maps, and generally extended borders between maps where you can only assume you can cross, but cannot. The strategic map confusion stopped me from enjoying it.

#3: Re: a map editor & other things Author: LostTemple,

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:34 pm
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Nope. It's definitely not worth shelling out more money. In fact, you already made several mistakes by buying TLD and LSA.

The most popular game, and the one with the overwhelming huge number of mods is still CC5. Can you return your purchases? If I were you, I'd get my money back. No point is wasting money on unsupported games that no one plays.

#4: Re: a map editor & other things Author: Tejszd, Location: Canada

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:12 pm
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As Mooxe said there is no easy map maker. But if you want a bit more info on the process download 5CC as it is the best tool for making maps and has a number of tips in the manual....

Hopefully you get into mod making and stupid replies like Lost Temple's doesn't scare you away from CC and make you think you made a mistake. He is right that CC5 has the most mods, but beyour own judge on the games you bought. Be interested to hear back on that...

For COI and WAR, see what you think of the ones you have first. If you like them then keep on eye out to see if Matrix puts the other two on sale.

COI - If you already have CC3 then there is no point in buying COI (it has a few bug fixes but nothing that is a show stopper). Also keep in mind CC3/COI play a lot differently then your other games as there is no strat map and you play as one unit throughout the war in the east with vehicle upgrades though you can not change history....

WAR - might not wow you as TLD has a few more features since it is newer and was built on WAR but it is a different game with pros and cons. Example all new maps (though all winter), a bit confusing a strat layer, etc.

#5: Re: a map editor & other things Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:34 am
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Hemmm where to start Laughing

Am I correct in believing that 5CC will NOT make a map from scratch?
If so then he needs to know about getting Photoshop for the graphic aspect of making a map.

The WAR Strategic Map?
Is it confusing? Yes

BUT

It does depict the cluster fuck that was the Ardennes so I can accept that.
There's no real reason NOT to buy COI or WAR unless for some odd reason your not into the Campaigns those games depict.

Like Me,
I'm sick and tired of the whole Normandy thing so I won't get tLD.

#6: Re: a map editor & other things Author: falzone,

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:38 am
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Thanks guys for all your replies. I'll try and respond accordingly:

Mooxe: That does look rather complicated, but Michael's point about it's reflection on the FUBAR situation in that offensive is a good one.... Mooxe, did you put the 'key' on the top left of the map (The one about roadblocks? ... Is this an actual feature in the game (that we can't see) or is it just a glitch that doesn't allow us to move into certain territories?)

Tej: Again, thanks for the advice. I've managed to spend hours infront of these games (only bought them a couple of days ago), so I can safely say that LostTemple's comments haven't turned me away - He has his opinion of the game, but I think they're great. I have the old games but none of them work on my Mac (with crossover pro) and only CC5 works on my old PC (CC5 I now have on my mac with TLD)

Michael: I think you're absolutely right about the campaigns. I'm certainly interesting in WAR, set in Bastogne...

I have one final question.... sorry!...... Like with CCMT, is there a way of playing either TLD or LSA in a sandbox style, i.e. the ability to choose from the entire pool of troops and vehicles in the game, instead of being limited to the pool of units only available for that map, etc. It'd be nice to feel the full power of what is to offer .....for example I saw from some images of one of the MetalMod (I think that was the name) that there are quite a few tanks and vehicles....but don't think I've used half of them... perhaps I have but didn't realise it though!

#7: Re: a map editor & other things Author: mooxe,

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:47 pm
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falzone wrote (View Post):

Thanks guys for all your replies. I'll try and respond accordingly:

Mooxe: That does look rather complicated, but Michael's point about it's reflection on the FUBAR situation in that offensive is a good one.... Mooxe, did you put the 'key' on the top left of the map (The one about roadblocks? ... Is this an actual feature in the game (that we can't see) or is it just a glitch that doesn't allow us to move into certain territories?)

I don't really think this was a game feature. I also don't think it was a glitch. I believe it was just a poorly made strategic map. While in game, there are no indications on which maps are connected. If you look closely at the border lines, much of the confusion could of been remove just by straightening some lines and shuffling others around.

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