Close Combat Series :: View topic - 2nd Battle of Kharkov

through

[^/[Print]\]
Goto page : Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next :| |:
Close Combat Series -> CC5 Kharkov

#21: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:02 pm
—
Arghh!, I have found in the net informations about Hummel was used since 1942, are you sure? And if I change it with wespe maybe is right? about crew: I admit that I'm not historical perfectionist, but if I remember well I have seen in cc3 the number of crew. About Data trust me, I don't use stalingrad beta data (I'm not mad). I hope that when my mod will be released something historical expert like you make a "full-historical-correct" update. Regards Drizzt

#22: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:36 pm
—
I have controlled my font: Hummel= july 1942, 4-6 crew. My mod is may-june but I like it. Regards Drizzt

#23: Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:47 pm
—

Drizzt wrote:

I have controlled my font: Hummel= july 1942, 4-6 cr
ew. My mod is may-june but I like it. Regards Drizzt

http://wwiivehicles.com/germany/self_propelled/hummel.html

Quote:

The Waffenamt wanted to provide artillery support to armored units. They had proposed putting an 105 mm leFH to be mounted on a PzKpfw III or IV chassis. On July 25, 1942, this was changed to mount a 15 cm sFH, since the PzKpfw II could mount the 105 leFH.

Alkett presented a prototype to Hitler in October 1943. An order was then placed to have 100 ready by May 12, 1943, in time for the Kursk offensive. Armor was supplied by Stahlindustrie (Deutsche Röhrenwerke) of Mülheim/Ruhr and Deutsche Edelstahl in Hannover. Deutsche Eisenwerke assembled 666 Hummels. In December 1942 12 were completed.

#24: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:06 am
—
Well, your font is more completed, thank you!, If I use a Stug III F/8 is right? I have seen the site but I'm not sure, and I need an assault gun or self-propelled gun to balance the game. Sorry for asking again, but you are really expert. Regards Drizzt

#25: Author: Dima,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:41 pm
—
First StuG40F8 were available in spetember 1942.
Btw StuIG33B were available in november 1942.

In yer time frame StuG40F was available armed with StuK40 L/43 gun.

#26: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:12 pm
—
Many thanks Dima, you have resolved me one problem but now I have another problem: you know stalingrad StuIG 33B graphic: so what can I use in my time frame similar to it? (many thanks again, your posts are really very very usefull for me), if you agree I can post here a small list with germans and russians tanks&vehicles of my mod and (if you want) you can say me which are rights in my time frame and which are wrongs. Regards Drizzt

#27: Author: Dima,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:22 pm
—
nothing looks like StuIG33B.
Btw we won't use it in Stalingrad either.

sure.

#28: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:45 pm
—
Thanks Dima, here the list:

Germans: Stug IIIE, StugIIIF, Pz Jager 38t (marder), Pz 38t, PzIID, FlammenPanzerII, PzIIIH, PzIIIJ, PzIVD, PzIVF, PzIVF2, Sdfkz: 222, 232, 250/7, 250/11, 250/9,
251 (Neberwelfer 41), 251/10, 251/2, 250/1, 251/1, Romanians: R-2, R-35; Problem: if I cancel StuIG 33 B I need a self-prop. gun or assault gun, suggestions (with stalingrad tank graphic)?

Russians: Ba-10, Ba-20, Avtomachina M3A1, Katyusha, BT-7M, KV1 obr.39,
KV-1 obr.41, T34 obr.40, T34 obr.41, T60, T70, KV2, OT133

#29: Author: Dima,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:02 pm
—

Drizzt wrote:

Thanks Dima, here the list:

Germans: Stug IIIE, StugIIIF, Pz Jager 38t (marder), Pz 38t, PzIID, FlammenPanzerII, PzIIIH, PzIIIJ, PzIVD, PzIVF, PzIVF2, Sdfkz: 222, 232, 250/7, 250/11, 250/9,
251 (Neberwelfer 41), 251/10, 251/2, 250/1, 251/1, Romanians: R-2, R-35; Problem: if I cancel StuIG 33 B I need a self-prop. gun or assault gun, suggestions (with stalingrad tank graphic)?

Russians: Ba-10, Ba-20, Avtomachina M3A1, Katyusha, BT-7M, KV1 obr.39,
KV-1 obr.41, T34 obr.40, T34 obr.41, T60, T70, KV2, OT133

russians:
M3A1-was available since late summer 1943.
T34obr.40 was not available.
KV1obr.39 was not available.
T70 was not available.
KV-2 was not available.
OT-133 was not available.

Available:
T26,T40,KV1obr40,T34obr42,MkII Matilda II,MkIII Valentine II,MkIII Velentine IV,T37,T38,T40,Captured PzIII.

#30: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:14 pm
—
Many many thanks!!, Great work, I am surprised because I believed that for example obr.39= 1939. About germans all is ok or you have not controlled yet? Regards Drizzt

#31: Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:42 pm
—
Dunno much about german tanx in that area...

for sure 250/9 wasn't available.
doubt that any of Flamingo was there as most of them were withdrawn in the end of 1941.
no 7.5cm Marder II or III.
small(if any) number of Marder II(7,62cm) as first were delivered on May 12 1942.
u can add PzJager I(some number were in disposal of Army Group South).

guess some PzIIIG,PzIIF,StuGIIIC were available
some number of S35, H39, captured russ tanx.

#32: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 12:53 pm
—
Many thanks again!! "Do not much about german tanks in this area": means that you are not sure which tanks are avalaible or that is probably no tanks (of my mod) in this area at your advice? Anyway I just fixed russians and now I will fix germans thanks to you! Regards Drizzt

#33: Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:03 pm
—
That mean i don't know much...
I pointed which tanx of yer list were not availabe.Other can be.

#34: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 1:34 pm
—
Seems to me very strange... I know germans bulk many divisions in this area for Op. Fredericus and I'm sure 100% that 23th panzer and 16th panzer were decisive to repulse offensive... (war books fonts); I know also russians use 1200 tanks in this offensive: so if my Pz III and IV are not in the area, at your advice with what they have repulsed russians? With Panzer II(!)? Regards Drizzt

P.S:I have controlled my murder and is 7.62cm gun so is good!, Flamingo because we don't have certitude I think I don't cancel it, Stug IIIC is really good advice! I create it sure. And I will fix sure all other things.

#35: Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:01 pm
—
boom! Shocked

did i say that there were no PzIIIJ or PzIVF2?

Quote:

for sure 250/9 wasn't available.
doubt that any of Flamingo was there as most of them were withdrawn in the end of 1941.
no 7.5cm Marder II or III.

other vehicle from yer list could be available.

Plus german doctrine never told(at least in 1942 for sure) to duel enemy tanx with their own tanx Rolling Eyes

. ATGs,Aviation were for that purpose. Tanx were too valuable for AT purpose.They were used to counter attack when enemy tank attack was replused...

#36: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 2:40 pm
—
Sorry, now I have understand. And you have reason: german tanks were used to encircle enemy divisions and not to face russian tanks. Many tanks again!!! Regards Drizzt

#37: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:29 pm
—
I have fix all Dima, but I have the last question that some mod-makers I think can know: What cause crash in battles? There will be a logical sense if some mods battles crash few tiimes and in some mods often.

P.S. Two posts ago I have confuse "point" with "to bet" becuse in italian "to bet"= Puntare, and puntare is similar to point. So I have understand something like "I bet they (tanks) were not avalaible.

#38: Author: Dima,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:32 pm
—
what happens bfr it crashes? vehicles explodes? or do it says something?

#39: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 8:38 pm
—
Unfortunately the battles crash before begin play in tactical maps during load phase: sometime when game say "initializing IA" sometime when game say "copying maps files" (I mean the 44 battles not battles in campaign). Regards Drizzt

#40: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:43 pm
—
Maybe I say something wrong? I know that probably the problem is in Data, I know that is difficult find what cause crash, only I want to know if there is some column in qclone particularly to check to resolve it, with my tests I can say that probably Alsteams, Geteams and weapons are responsible of crash, but why and where I can check and change? Regards Drizzt

Close Combat Series -> CC5 Kharkov

output generated using printer-friendly topic mod. All times are GMT

Goto page : Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Next :| |: Page 2 of 6