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#81: Author: Pzt_Kami, Location: IRAN

Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:41 pm
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Hi Drizzt
This topic has been viewed more than 2000 times ,And it is a good
news for you because it show you how mutch popular this topicIn fact your mod) is.
So continue working on your mod my friend.We are waiting.
Thank you

#82: Author: Pzt_Mac, Location: Oregon

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:27 pm
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Hey Drizzt,

Since your mod is going to be released relatively soon, maybe you could ask MOOXE to create your own forum thread in the Moding section, that way all of the questions and relaeases could be kept clear and up to date - I'm sure he would do it for you.

Great work.
Mac

#83: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:16 am
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Hi, thanks for your comments, yes a forum is a good idea but not now, when will be released is better: Or I release it, or I upgrade it: the upgrade that I have in mind is a really hard work: a new stratmap at berlin or Gjs level and new maps, and various corrections (historical and not) in azp, data and screen files. I prefer that eastern front experts can play it and say me the corrections that I must do in data and graphics files (or about divisions: for example russians commanders names), about stratmap and some new maps I hope in future to obtain the aid of some maps experts that help me to upgrade it with their works. I like eastern front but I'm not an expert of it; when I have began to work on my mod stalingrad seemed dead and berlin was only a "possibility": I have created this mod for... "necessity": I wanted play germans Vs russians in CC5. I do my best for make it historical correct but the informations about this battle that I have found are not so accurated. Also I couldn't work in a more famous battles as kursk, moskow, 3rd kharkov or stalingrad because someone was working already on them.

Regards, Drizzt

#84: Author: Wittmann44,

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:20 am
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Hi,

sorry but my english is bad! Wink

Has your mod new maps or not? Smile

and the 3rd battle mod is dead right now or?

#85: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:15 pm
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Hi, The mod don't have new maps but cc3 custom maps. 3rd Kharkov is not mine, If I remember well is "on ice".
Actually I'm testing my mod, testing go well but I'm resolving some small problems with two maps and reinforce button. Regards, Drizzt

#86: Author: Wittmann44,

Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:38 pm
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when do you think it is ready tfor download? Smile

or do you want to make new maps?

perhaps do you can get the 3rd battle mod files from the modder to complete this mod too Smile

#87: Author: Searry, Location: Finland

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:27 pm
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Hey, you've made a very good mod. Smile

Now we just need that Kursk mod.

#88: Author: squadman45,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:52 am
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Hi, any news???? in web the game was a release date of 17-18 november..... but no release and the news of the release was deleted.....

#89: Author: K,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:02 pm
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hi
i wait for good news,too Smile

i'm looking forward to the mod very much!

#90: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:03 pm
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Hi, the mod has been uploaded but my mod files need to be converted into plugin form, Mooxe (site admin) is busy for now: don't worry, when he will have more free time the mod will be converted and released (many thanks to Mooxe for his support!). Regards, Drizzt

#91: Author: K,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:11 pm
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ok,drizzt,thank you for reply!!
I undersand! Smile

it is good news,thank you.

#92: Author: squadman45,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:49 pm
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Thanks for the kick reply, if i write the post is because the new announcing the release of the mod was deleted.

Wait, wait, always waiting, a decent Basket manager (near to release hehehe), and of course waiting your great mod Wink

#93: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:10 am
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Hey Drizzt...great mod!

Are the Russian Infantry and NKVD troops supposed to be wearing light green?
I thought they would be wearing khaki uniforms.
I know that Soviet Scouts and specialists troops wore green cammo suits...but do most of the regular troops wear green also? Is this representing theTelogreika padded winter jacket?

BTW, Russians are also wearing green uniform in Stalingrad mod.

Thanks again for the mod, Drizzt! The CC3 maps look a little retro though...maybe when you have time you should upgrade the maps with repainted ones someday.

One more thing...someone should start the 3rd Battle of Kharkov mod...I want to command Waffen SS battlegroups! Very Happy

#94: Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:46 am
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The plugin is done. All that is left is the upload and adding them to the database. Should be tomorrow.

#95: Author: K,

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:19 pm
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hello,mooxe
ohhhh,it is great!!!
thank you for your work!! Smile

#96: Author: Drizzt,

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:58 pm
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to squadleader: many thanks!! About uniforms I had as examples stalingrad and berlin mods: stalingrad as timeline is near to 2nd kharkov so I have thought that the right uniforms were light green. Have you seen the color of the russian militia teams (not nkvd)? It's a brown different to romanian brown uniforms, maybe is more adapted for ther regular troops?
As I have said in past, I'm not a great expert of eastern front but I like it. There are surely many others imprecisions: my "weak point" is the great knowledge about historical war detalils that many veteran modders and CC funs have and I don't have. I admire the works of many veteran modders.
About maps, I hope to improve the mod in future.
3rd kahrkov is a great mod idea that unfortunately has not been finished (in past was in preparation), maybe one day will return.

to mooxe: very good news!! Thanks again mooxe.

Regards, Drizzt

#97: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:10 am
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Drizzt, I'm also no expert on the Eastern Front.
But I thought that the green Soviet uniforms in Stalingrad looks odd...I'm using Pzt_Kanov's 'personal submod' (Thanks, man!) with khaki unifoms...and prefer the look.
Maybe Russian green should be toned down (faded green) to look closer to these:
http://www.tridentmilitary.com/Soviet-WW2/soviet-ww2-uniforms.html
http://www.tridentmilitary.com/Soviet-WW2/camouflage-winter-clothing.html
The green uniforms in Stalingrad mod look a lot like stock American green in the original exe.

And to be honest...I don't even know for sure if the NKVD historically wore faded green or khaki.

Great mod, BTW...I've been having a blast with the single battles. The Russian AI seems to perform very well...maybe it's the CC3 maps? I made a quick 'personal vetmod'...just making the Soviet teams all 10 men and coding infantry as vehicles...and the AI performs even better on the attack. With T-34s in support, Russian infantry are rolling over my positions...aarghhhh!!!

#98: Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:29 am
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That's how RA infantry uniform looked like in 1941-1943:

http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm29.htm
http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm20.htm

and that's how infantry uniform looked like since 1943:

http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm22.htm
http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/arm26.htm

that's how NKVD border guard field uniform looked like in 1940 - 1943:

http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/nkvd1.htm

since 1943:

http://rkka.ru/uniform/files/nkvd13.htm

In Stal 10th NKVD ID infantry had exactly same uniform as RA infantry. They just had different patches and color of military caps.

#99: Author: squadleader_id, Location: Soerabaja

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:13 am
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Thanks for clearing this up, Dima! Actually I was waiting for you to join ini Smile

So the historical RA and NKVD uniforms were shades of green.
I'll play around with Soldier Color Editor tool to try and get the right shades of green...I still think the greens in Stalingrad look odd...a bit too bright and not pale enough. I have a fetish for the uniforms worn by our beloved tiny soldiers Smile

So only conscripts and partisans wear khaki? What about khaki/brown greatcoats?

#100: Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:28 am
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RKKA and NKVD field units had basically same uniform so the differences were only in color of patches and caps (shoulder straps since 1943).

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I still think the greens in Stalingrad look odd...a bit too bright and not pale enough.

no, it looks exactly how it should look after month or so of wearing in such conditions.

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So only conscripts and partisans wear khaki?

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Conscripts were RA soldiers so wore standart RA field uniform.
Partisans/militia mostly wore civilian clothes or just a mix of sov/german military and civilian clothes.

didn't u check the links to uniform pics i've posted? Wink

khaki became standart since 1943.

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What about khaki/brown greatcoats?

it was brown. IIRC since 1943 it became light grey.

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