ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Firstly there are a limited number of slots in the vehicles file.
To add a new vehicle, you must remove one. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
(1) Anglo American vehicles were removed so as to add more Russian vehicles.
If i wanted to play a game with Shermans, i would play the WestFront mod. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
(4) RA = Red Army |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
(5) ISU-122 appeared in 1943, because it started production mid/late 43 and to add game balance with the addition of Panthers to the German force pool. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
It is called "so as to add more Russian vehicles"??????? |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Units are not marked as RA - from what army? |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
ISU-122 - december 1943 - only prototype. Serial production - beginning 1944... In DOF2 they appears summer 1943 - Kursk |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Game balance does not need such crutches. Let's add a pair of Tigers to the Germans in 1941 to equalize the balance of the T-34 and KV?
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nikin wrote (View Post): |
While the appearance of 100mm gun BS-3 is historically true to move from summer 1943 to summer 1944 ... |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
But here for example Flame tank OT-34 - gun F-34 replaced by L-11. Why? This tank was never armed with L-11, as produced from 1942. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
This armor and so was unhappy. Appears in the game only in 1943, although in reality he fought from the beginning of 1942. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
The crew in the game - 4, in reality - 3. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
OT-34/85 does not appear in the game at all |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
(1) Anglo American vehicles were removed so as to add more Russian and German vehicles.
If i wanted to play a game with Shermans, i would play the WestFront mod. Happy??????? |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Regular Army units if you wish) |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/data/isu122a.htm |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Tigers appear in 1942 in RR. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Actually you are very wrong, the OT-34 does appear in DOF from the beginning of 1942 |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
you can be sure the OT-34/85 will be there (at the expense of the T-20) |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Do not be offended, because I want to help)) |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Lend-lease program was more than 13%! own production of tanks. We have Russian tanks, the amount of which was much less Shermans, Churchill and Valentine (an example of KV-2 T-28, KV-85, KV-8, IS-1). I see no reason to do so to them. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote: |
If i wanted to play a game with Shermans, i would play the WestFront mod |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Cannon is correct - A-19S, but not D-25S as in mod |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Ok, ok. In the DOF is really a 1942 (I was referring to inaccuracies in the RR). |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Further, it is not clear why added 76.2mm F-22. According to its characteristics it corresponds exactly 76.2mm Zis-3 |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Panther D and A do not differ (cosmetic changes). No problem can be combined in a modification of the D/A |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
I want to help |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
There are many other unnecessary vehicles. For example a lot of new large-caliber guns. German - 12.8cm PaK 44, 15cm sFH 18/43, 12.8cm K-40 81/2, 10.5cm leFH-18, 15cm s.IG 33, Russian 106.7mm 1910/30.
1) That's all for the most part second-line weapons. 2) Wrong donate tank slots (in Vehicles) for this dubious weapons. 3) We still do not take into account all the howitzers and guns - especially a lot of them were in Russian. |
US_Brake wrote (View Post): |
Thanks for making this mod for CoI, ArmeeGruppeSud. It's the most popular for online play. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
The matter in the following. I was outraged by the gross errors in the RealRed (=official COI). http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=9047 |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
There was a question to remove the Lend-Lease and captured vehicles. Which is almost replaced by the German heavy artillery. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Such changes are usually justified. I have not found the answer in the readme. Ask a question here - I also did not get definite answer. Place of origin of these tanks is irrelevant in this case. It is important that they fought side by side with T-34 and others. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
For this reason, I can not evaluate DOF2 as more accurate than other mods. Talk to other aspects I think unpromising. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
No need to misinterpret my words. I have never offered to replace rare Russian tanks. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Lend-lease program was more than 13%! own production of tanks. We have Russian tanks, the amount of which was much less Shermans, Churchill and Valentine (an example of KV-2 T-28, KV-85, KV-8, IS-1). I see no reason to do so to them |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
the DOF 15cm s.IG replaced the RR 3.7cm FlaK the DOF 15cm s.FH replaced the RR 5cm FlaK the DOF 12.8cm PaK replaced the RR Panther Turret the DOF 12.8cm FK replaced the RR 2.8cm s.PzB.41 the DOF 10.5cm le.FH replaced the RR 7.62 FK 296 (r) |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
the DOF TIGER H/E replaced the RR Churchill Mk IV |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
1) The size of maps in the game does not exceed 520-600 meters, a distance fight is even smaller. This is a close combat. Now we proposed to remove from the game 2.8cm s.PzB.41 (useful arms by the way) and add to the forefront of the battle 12,8 cm PaK 44 (only one whose weight is >10 000 kg). |
DOFreadme wrote: |
DOF has an balanced mix of historical accurracy and playability |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
That is, if the retreat these weapons will be lost. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
(2) The gun has (in DOF) a simple chassis. In reality, it was like the AA guns. -> Great height, complexity masking and traverse-360°. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
Next start bullshit |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
3) Crew of the gun in the game - 5 members. Again, look: weight is >10 000 kg, shell weight - 28 kg, complex six-wheeled chassis, etc. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
6) Gun can be hidden in any shelter (such as where to place the 3.7cm Pak) - house, bunker, etc.!!! |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
7) This was not enough. Added also gun 12.8cm FK-40. Information about this gun, I did not find in Wikipedia or anywhere else. |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
I'm not interested to discuss the differences between Panther D / A modifications. |
DOFreadme wrote: |
DOF has an balanced mix of historical accurracy and playability |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
1st, nobody, except a total dweeb, or the stupid AI, would ever reqisition a 2.8cm s.PzB.41 in the game:
(a) because it is useless against the all the russian armour (except puny light tanks & HTs) (b) an MG42/MG34 team is more effective against infantry and cheaper in RP = inclusion of 2.8cm s.PzB.41 is a waste of a vehicle slot in the vehicles file Playability includes the element of fun for a game to be playable, it must be "fun" 12.8cm PaK = "fun" 2.8cm s.PzB.41 = boring |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
In original game, no guns (except the 85 and 88mm AA guns) had a crew of more than 5 |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): | ||
Basically room sizes either are, nothing fits, or, one size fits all |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
The 12.8cm L/61 K-40 based on the 12.8cm FlaK, was built in limited numbers, it was used in the Sturer Emil |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
That is because you were totally wrong about that. The differences between D and A are just as significant as between A and G... |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
You claim that the thickness of the Panther turret frontal armor increased by 10 mm (D->A mod). Now look at your link |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/germany/data/pantherd.htm
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/germany/data/panthera.htm |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
This site was used because it was the site, that i found, with the most comprehensive database of WW2 German and Russian AFVs |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
In original game, no guns (except the 85 and 88mm AA guns) had a crew of more than 5 |
nikin wrote (View Post): |
False. 100mm BS-3 and 152mm IG had a crew 6. |
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Hmm. What I do not see here - the answers to my simple questions.
Though. The main question I saw the answer - the main thing in DOF2 "fun" and "look good". Readme lie - to the historical accurracy this mod has no any relation.
1) Guns 20-88mm (excluding 50, 85, 88mm AA)- you can hide anywhere (houses, bunkers), where permitted. Can move. 2) 122mm IG - you can not hide in the same shelter (except large buildings). Can move. 3) 50, 85, 88mm AA, 100mm BS-3, 152mm IG - you can not hide in the same shelter (except large buildings). Do not move. In your interpretation of the 128mm gun - able to take shelter in small buildings and moving. No comments.
About balderdash with command Tiger H/E I received no answer at all... Yours sincerely, nikin |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Actually i dont have time to waste explaining every detail to you. Every minute wasted on you,(an insatiable pain in the rump) is one minute less spent actuallly making progress in finishing DOF3 which will make 1,000s happy. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
You seem to have plenty of time, you should start making a mod to satisfy your own personal criteria. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Before you criticise anybody else's modding work again, be sure that you have earned the right by completing a major modification project |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Actually, I NEVER critisized anybody's mod's, i just began modding and make the improvements myself |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
It is far easier to criticise somebody's work, than to do a better job
It takes wisdom to build, Any fool can tear down |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Having given you more answers than you deserve, i'm not interested in any further discussion with you until after the release of your CC3/COI mod |
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While the appearance of 100mm gun BS-3 is historically true to move from summer 1943 to summer 1944 |
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TIGERS were not even thought of in 1941, let alone being designed, whereas the JSU-122 was well underway in planning mid 1943. |
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To further highlight the foolishness of your ridiculous comparison, JSU-122s appearing in small numbers in 1943 would not make 5% of the impact that Tigers would have made in 1941 |
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No, in RR they also appear winter 1943, I think it's normal |
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Further, it is not clear why added 76.2mm F-22. According to its characteristics it corresponds exactly 76.2mm Zis-3. |
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Panther D and A do not differ (cosmetic changes). No problem can be combined in a modification of the D/A. |
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Your English can be difficult to interpret. You are obviously Russian, or at least from the former Soviet Union (The nature of you're remarks and your style of English remind me of Dima). |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
fall of 1944 |
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No, in RR they also appear winter 1943, I think it's normal |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
nah, they should appear in fall of 1942 . |
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Your English can be difficult to interpret. You are obviously Russian, or at least from the former Soviet Union (The nature of you're remarks and your style of English remind me of Dima). |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
all the Russians are same, aren't they? |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
lol, wanted to help but the guy is trolling in bad way . he reminds me myself when i started modding . |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
anyway, AGS, that;s not a thread about DOF2 mistakes - just ignore it - don't feed a troll . |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
btw, this thread has shown how much research you have done for this mod, thank you for supporting CC on high level, mate. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
fall of 1944 |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
nah, they should appear in fall of 1942 . |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
that was totally different gun! so, it is great that AGS added that in par with ZIS-3. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
wanna bet? |
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BS-3 entered service in May 1944. Immediately put into production. |
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Do you really think that she reached the front more than three months? |
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In Russian it reads like this: you farted in a puddle. |
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For a start look at their numbers and that it was called "combat testing". |
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Based on your writings, we should have a tiger in Stalingrad? |
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And in addition you made a mistake with the date. Really - summer 1942. |
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I admitted that guns are different. All the same gun F-22 is not needed in Close Combat 3 (for russian). I will not explain. You are not worthy. |
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Found that the modifications differ in rate of rotation of the turret. |
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Want to add? |
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PS Before you write anything bad to carefully read the topic. For now, you look like a troll |
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