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#1: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: southern_land,

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:13 am
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Does anyone have any information on the pisciculture pounds at Ermeton-sur-biert, in Belgium... primarily did the exist during ww2 or anything else anyone can tell me

http://static.skynetblogs.be/media/226/402937336.2.JPG

#2: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: Manoi, Location: Brussels

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:28 am
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I will try to have more informations.

#3: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: southern_land,

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:45 am
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cool thanks

#4: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: Manoi, Location: Brussels

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:46 am
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is it for a new map? It seems that this pisciculture is rather new.

#5: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: southern_land,

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:37 am
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Hi, its for a WW 2 era map. So you think the ponds are more recent? I'm guessing because on the contour it was a river or stream orignally? maybe drained or diverted into a canal? might eraze the ponds and go with the later?

#6: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: wjgo,

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:24 am
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This is the spot of your picture in Google naps. 50.288469,4.711986 just copy and paste the coordinates into google maps and look for the green arrow.

To me, it appears to be a reservoir systems. The google picture shows everything to be either dry or half empty. But the map view shows tributaries, that can not be detected in the sat view. So I am guessing that a rainy season will fill up the reservoirs and tributaries and then they are used to irrigate the locale crops and farm fields, and will dry out. Something like this, would seem like an old traditional thing to do without modern irrigation methods. They almost look like rice paddies. Maybe something is even grown in them. Are you sure they are fish ponds? The google sat maps shows them either dry or half empty, and not at all like your picture, which is why the appear to be a seasonal thing, but I don't fish, nor do I farm.

#7: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: wjgo,

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:36 am
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This is what I found;

OREYE décanteurs sucrerie picture

decanteurs

That picture looks like alot of the google sat pictures and the author named the subject, searching for the subject and gdoing a google translation of those pages into english;

basins for sugar beet washingbasin for sugar beet washing

another result

Which lead me to this; a 1913 manual for Sugar Beet Growers: the cached version is easier to search cached version

normal linknormal version

Do a search for basin or "methods of irrigation" it discusses a check system, and then describes the basins, and does a good job of describing what we see in those pictures.

So - I say its for sugar beet farming, from french picture titles, other french descriptions on a map, and a 1913 farming manual. So - I would say these basins could very well have been there since WWII.

Elsewhere on the web you can find that sugar beets is basically the sole source of sugar for belgium, and that production has only slowed down slightly. I found a export graph of sugar beets, and Belgium had major spikes of sugar beets in the 60's-70's. Before and after that time, virtually no exports. They either had a good crop, low demand, or Europe had a high demand for sugar at that time. So, that time period would have been an incentive to expand sugar beet farming.

You would have to know someone with direct knowledge of the geography to know what was there in WWII. Soldier happening upon it probably would not know what the basins were for. But I would say its most likely those basins have been there for a long time.

#8: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: Dauphin,

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:55 am
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They are certainly far more older.
Those ponds are used store extra water in case of heavy rain to prevent flooding of downstream aeras.

#9: Re: Ermeton-sur-biert, pisciculture Author: southern_land,

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:46 am
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thanks for your replies guys, yeah finding lots of references to Ermeton-sur-biert and pisciculture that I'm taking to mean fish farming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aD8Msb-44s 1:30 are the ponds... also a lot more elevation that i expected

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