MajorFrank wrote (View Post): | ||||
Well a couple of points, I don't think the old testament paints the christian god as a particularily 'nice guy', I would say it's pretty much the opposite. Jesus in the new testament is a lot more laid back and nicer in the new testament. So I wouldn't necessarily say that god is "good", and if you are "all powerful" then there is a large risk that type of power will be misused. It's interesting to note how so many non-religious manage to live their lives with a very high moral standards. From a purely ethical point of view I would say that it is much more moral and ethical to find reasons for your behaviour yourself then just blindly obey some religious doctrines. Following religious doctrines makes one very much like a robot and not a thinking, sentient human. A couple of vids from some non-religious folks. The Atheism Tapes: Richard Dawkins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eJjaSgMT4 The True Core Of The Jesus Myth | Christopher Hitchens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMo5R5pLPBE&feature=related Michael Shermer: Why people believe weird things http://www.ted.com/talks/michael_shermer_on_believing_strange_things.html Sam Harris Simply Destroys Christianity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXcdevmiR0U |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
Therefore, one person could argue that stealing or any other crime is ok, (..) and another could argue the opposite, or somewhere in between. Taken to the extreme, the outcome is. everything is permissible. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): | ||||||||||||||||||||||
Correct You didn't string a few of my sentences together You took parts from 3 of my sentences and mixed them together to create an entirely new sentence.
Pretty much What i want is genuine assylum seekers coming to Australia, legally, by making their applications from OS, like they are supposed to. Did you hear about the People Smuggling kingpin, Captain Emud, who got an assylum seeker protection Visa, after captaining an illegal immigrant boat to Australia? See, this boatpeople immigration system lets crims into our country The present situation sucks! Liers, cheats and frauds are coming in by the boatload atm because the system is failing. The people smugglers are overloading our immigration department by flooding us with illegals. They dont have time to process the backlog of 1000s of legal applications from genuine assylum seekers from overseas. What would you prefer? No illegal boat people coming, freeing 100s, or 1000s of immigration department people to process the applications of genuine assylum seekers, who apply through the proper way? or Do you favour criminals getting rich by sending 100s, 1000s of people, illegally, on unseaworthy boats, many of which sink with all the passengers drowning? Another hundred of them drowned yesterday If Australia adopted a zero tolerance of illegal boat people, it would save thousands of people from drowning at sea. Also thousands of legal assylum seekers would get their applications processed because our immigration department would not be swamped with illegals. It would also save hundreds of millions of tax payers money, which could be put to better use.
Added a comma to your sentence so that it made sense grammatically Correct, a person could make such a daft error. As a christian, i have a love for all humanity and a strong desire for as many as possible to recieve the gift of eternal life. This includes illegal boat people, you, AT_Stalky, MF and even people smugglers. As a Christian, i also have a strong sense of justice. The present system provides riches for people smugglers, drownings for many of their customers, legal assylum seekers being pushed back down the queue by people who can afford to buy their way into Australia. Where is the justice in that?
Don't realy believe you are intellectually challenged, maybe you just had a "blonde moment". Please don't start another attack on me about racisim against blondes, i just used a common coloquial expression (was pure blonde as a child, but i grew out of it )
There was no legal system when my ancestors arrived other than that which was established by the South Australian british settlement (1838 & 1848 my maternal & paternal families arrived). Of course, you are right, the British invasion of Australia is no better than the European invasion of North America. As for me, i was born legally here, my family has been here 7 generations.
Never said they hate the place. Just to be reciprical, i shall honour your question with as much of an answer as you gave mine My answer:
You must be right when you assume that guy would have just been stabbed by somebody else if the illegal hadn't been here and somebody else would have raped the girl too, right? They are not the only 2 victims of illegals. Just a sample of those who would have been safer had their assailents never got here. Don't know if these were legal or llegal immigrants, but re some of the islamic immigrants (which the majority are assylums and majority of those are illegals).
has "that shits been going on in Australia for awhile...."?
My wife is a legal immigrant. She had to do lots of paperwork. Pass many tests. Jump through dozens of hoops. It is very difficult to get here legally. Why is it so difficult? Because of all the liers, cheats and frauds who try to get into our country illegitimately. This causes the immigration department to toughen the processes. If it were not for all the liers, cheats and frauds trying to get into our country illegally, it would be easier for the legitimate immigrants
Sad that your version of humanity is happy about the present situation where illegal boatpeople are drowning in the hundreds, nearly every week, because the people smugglers are maximiseing their prophets by overloading cheap, unseaworthy boats with prospective fish food STOP THE BOATS = Stopping the drownings STOP THE BOATS = Stopping criminals getting rich STOP THE BOATS = Stopping queue jumpers (giving legals a chance) CHEERS AGS P.S. thats all for today, my wife is calling again |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
reasons:1. it is on account of the wickedness of these nations 2. to accomplish what he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
what was the wickedness of the nations? Deuteronomy 12
29 The Lord your God will cut off before you the nations you are about to invade and dispossess. But when you have driven them out and settled in their land, 30 and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” 31 You must not worship the Lord your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the Lord hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
Hint: Go beyond the Wiki links to find the really crazy stuff. Its more fun that way. |
Stwa wrote (View Post): |
Plus, it might be a good time to bring some Homophobes into the conversation. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Even to this very day, theology is changing as understanding is attained and truth revealed. Still to this very day, social culture is causing corruption within churches (i.e. ordination of gay pastors ) . |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
you and AGS see everything in 2 colors (see Dictator movie) - black and white, but that is not correct as everything is grey.
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