AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
The thread you pointed to David. Isn’t really about monkeys typing…OK… its an analogy.
The point is amino acids lining up, and the probability of that creating life -> evolution. Evolution in a 3D world… My point is that nature is not a one axis linear event, where there is a condition that say that one need to start in one end or the other, but rather one may start any ware… And in a 3D world, probabilities of attaching is not the same as in a simple linear world. |
Dima wrote (View Post): |
and i hope that alegory (see quaote) was not aimed at the guy who was always talking very friendly to you. |
MF_Church wrote (View Post): |
The Best thing in life IS love. Right?
For this post, let's agree on the Highest form of LOVE. (selfless or GOD perfect kind of love). We All want it. We all want to be loved like that. Even in this chat thread. When someone doesn't FEEL loved (love is not rude) they React.* Ok.. here my Intent. (all of the above is Setting Up for what i mean to say Next). :) Let Love be the PLUMLINE for each post. And let ONLY the person who wrote that Post be the ONLY judge of it's intent! And the Weight (ball thingy at the end of the plumline) be this ~ thought~ *Knowledge Puffs! up but Love edifies (the listener / reader). P. S. Pls. remember this. My hope here is to do just that. EDIFY each and everyone of ~ us. :*) Take care and Give (it) care too! :) Hope this helps. CUZ i really do believe we all HERE are and were trying to do this! And in some Degrees ~ did ! |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): | ||
The problem with subjective morality is ... eventually it could be argued that anything is permissible. |
MajorFrank wrote (View Post): |
how about no more bible copy pastes in this thread, you are welcome to start a "bible studies" - thread here in CCS of course. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
Firstly i didn't string a few of your sentences together. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
The gist of what you are saying is you don't wont illegal boat people here in Australia, correct ? |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
This would imply to somebody as "daft" as i, that you have no Christian love for these boat people, correct ?. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
Even tho in your words i'm "intellectually challenged" i still seem to be able to understand this, correct?. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
OK glad we cleared that up. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
If i can ask you this, are you Koori by nationality? or where your ancestors illegal immigrants in their eyes? |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
You ask if i admire their total disrespect for Australians and Australia.
I ask you, why would they risk their all to get their kids here if they hate the place ? |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
Wow an illegal stabbed someone and there was a rape.... think that shits been going on in Australia for awhile.... |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Muslim man throws acid in face of woman who refused to marry him (a practice in some islamic countries)
Muslim parents beat their teenage daughter to death in front of her siblings, because she was too Australian.. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
No genuine asylum seeker has been disadvantaged by the "illegal boat people" you should check your facts. |
Blackstump wrote (View Post): |
No i have no shares in the "people smuggling rackets" the only share i have is in humanity. |
Dima wrote (View Post): | ||
of coz - see many threads on this forum, this one in particular, like: you and AGS see everything in 2 colors (see Dictator movie) - black and white, but that is not correct as everything is grey. and the ones who does see like you makes the most ugly atricities in the Human history. Cheers . |
US_Brake wrote (View Post): |
I find it odd that God wasn't aware of the shape and age of his creation until much later when it was discovered by Humans using science and technology. |
MajorFrank wrote (View Post): |
Tell me, how does it actually work. Is it like, you have an ethical problem and you go to a church and ask a priest's opinion on a matter? Is this what you mean? And without this ethical advice the whole world would collapse?MF |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Muslim man throws acid in face of woman who refused to marry him (a practice in some islamic countries) |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Muslim parents beat their teenage daughter to death in front of her siblings, because she was too Australian.. |
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post): |
Just 2 examples of violent acts, never seen in Australia, until the islamic invasion. |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
The Bible claims that God is eternal and that He is good, just, and loving. If He is and always has been and always will be, then it is reasonable to conclude His ethics/morals are also transcendent. If this is true, then we can point to these standards as a measure and guide for our lives ... |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
and we can view God's ideas of what is right and wrong as objective and unchanging. Without an objective standard, morality can vary and is subject to each person opinion. |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
Therefore, one person could argue that stealing or any other crime is ok, (..) and another could argue the opposite, or somewhere in between. Taken to the extreme, the outcome is. everything is permissible. |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): |
The Bible claims that God is eternal and that He is good, just, and loving. If He is and always has been and always will be, |
davidssfx wrote (View Post): | ||
Hi, it's a method of examining different worldviews. I heard reference to this watching a debate some time ago. The idea is that ethics/morals seem to be built into all of us ... in all different groups and beliefs throughout the ages. We all seem to know, or at least have an opinion about, what is right and wrong, and fair ... which we see demonstrated in our daily lives. The Bible claims that God is eternal and that He is good, just, and loving. If He is and always has been and always will be, then it is reasonable to conclude His ethics/morals are also transcendent. If this is true, then we can point to these standards as a measure and guide for our lives ... and we can view God's ideas of what is right and wrong as objective and unchanging. Without an objective standard, morality can vary and is subject to each person opinion. Therefore, one person could argue that stealing or any other crime is ok, (for whatever reason) and another could argue the opposite, or somewhere in between. Taken to the extreme, the outcome is ... everything is permissible. This is kind of off topic but is a video link I watched this evening ... John Lennox speaking at Harvard about "Is Belief in the Supernatural Irrational?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kz4OgXsN1w&feature=youtu.be also, great song by Nicole C. Mullen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7jfC9RT4vg |
AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): | ||||||||
Okay, so your God is eternal and He is good, just, and loving. He always has been and always will be.... Okay, lets test what your saying. Bible quote that shows what type of bible morals David talks about: Numbers 31 "as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males. [...] And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captive, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle and all their flocks and all their goods. And they burned all their cities wherein they dwelt and all their goodly strongholds with fire. And they took all the spoil and all the prey, both of men and of beasts. [...] And Moses and Eleazar the priest and all the princes of the congregation went forth to meet them outside the camp. And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands and captains over hundreds, who came from the battle. And Moses said unto them, “Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who hath known a man by lying with him. But all the women children, who have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." “Keep alive for your self”…. murder the children, and do as you pleases with the virgins…! good, just, and loving, He always has been and always will be......
That sound so good, david... I might whant to buy into that. Lets see what you and your god mean by that: Bible quote that shows what type of bible morals David talks about: Deuteronomy 20 "When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.And it shall be, if it make thee an answer of peace and open unto thee, then it shall be that all the people who are found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee. And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it. And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword.But the women and the little ones, and the cattle and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies which the LORD thy God hath given thee." God is just and eternal and fair and generous, giving you slaves, and others positions, now thats morals! As you say, God's ideas of what is right and wrong is objective and unchanging.
Hahah, yeh, everything is permissible without the bible morals... Lets see what morlas we "atheists" are missing: Bible quote that shows what type of bible morals David talks about: 2 Samuel 12 “Thus saith the LORD: ‘Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house; and I will take thy wives before thine eyes and give them unto thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou did it secretly; but I will do this thing before all Israel and before the sun.’” And David said unto Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.” And Nathan said unto David, “The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.”However, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also who is born unto thee shall surely die.” How about that AGS..... Maybe that make it to the "Top 10 - "Christian"/"Australians" best reasons for killing your child list"? I mean, your God thinks so, and hes never wrong... right... Bible quote that shows what type of bible morals David talks about: Exodus 21 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.” God is Generous... . if your not pleased with your purchase of a woman slave, you can always get a refund... satesfaction guaranteed.... Makes a good slogan...
David, about this lemon your trying to sell... in Europe we have actually been there and done that .... And sanety is still resisting the bible people who tries to enforce that bible morals on us again.... |
AT_Stalky wrote (View Post): |
Lets guess who said the following:
"Therefore be on your guard against the Jews, knowing that wherever they have their synagogues, nothing is found but a den of devils in which sheer self¬glory, conceit, lies, blasphemy, and defaming of God and men are practiced most maliciously and veheming his eyes on them. Moreover, they are nothing but thieves and robbers who daily eat no morsel and wear no thread of clothing which they have not stolen and pilfered from us by means of their accursed usury. Thus they live from day to day, together with wife and child, by theft and robbery, as arch¬thieves and robbers, in the most impenitent security." Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "If I had to refute all the other articles of the Jewish faith, I should be obliged to write against them as much and for as long a time as they have used for inventing their lies¬¬ that is, longer than two thousand years." "Did I not tell you earlier that a Jew is such a noble, precious jewel that God and all the angels dance when he farts?" Aha, propaganda: Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Over and above that we let them get rich on our sweat and blood, while we remain poor and they such the marrow from our bones." Hm, who does that sond like? Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "I brief, dear princes and lords, those of you who have Jews under your rule¬¬ if my counsel does not please your, find better advice, so that you and we all can be rid of the unbearable, devilish burden of the Jews, lest we become guilty sharers before God in the lies, blasphemy, the defamation, and the curses which the mad Jews indulge in so freely and wantonly against the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, this dear mother, all Christians, all authority, and ourselves. Do not grant them protection, safe¬conduct, or communion with us.... .With this faithful counsel and warning I wish to cleanse and exonerate my conscience." "Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew. " Lords be warned... Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly ¬ and I myself was unaware of it ¬ will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know." Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God." Remember who also hated gypsies? Who may have said all that??? Hm, lodged under a roof or in a barn, who come up with thease ideas?? Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. (remainder omitted)" Jew books... Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach." Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Fifth, I advise that safeconduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. (...remainder omitted)." Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause." Take there treasure of silver and gold... Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]}. For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants." What does that sound like...? Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss in sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. That would demonstrate to God our serious resolve and be evidence to all the world that it was in ignorance that we tolerated such houses, in which the Jews have reviled God, our dear Creator and Father, and his Son most shamefully up till now but that we have now given them their due reward." Kristallnacht.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Lets guess who said the following: "I wish and I ask that our rulers who have Jewish subjects exercise a sharp mercy toward these wretched people, as suggested above, to see whether this might not help (though it is doubtful). They must act like a good physician who, when gangrene has set in, proceeds without mercy to cut, saw, and burn flesh, veins, bone, and marrow. Such a procedure must also be followed in this instance. Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them, as Moses did in the wilderness, slaying three thousand lest the whole people perish. They surely do not know what they are doing; moreover, as people possessed, they do not wish to know it, hear it, or learn it. There it would be wrong to be merciful and confirm them in their conduct. If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs, so that we do not become partakers of their abominable blasphemy and all their other vices and thus merit God's wrath and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Now let everyone see to his. I am exonerated." Click the button for the right answer: Hidden:
Christans preach Love love love and forgiveness, right AGS! Your right AGS.... The Jews have feelt much "love" from the christian church over the years.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther |
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