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#1: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Wastemoreland,

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:02 pm
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Can´t wait for this one to come out Very Happy

. Check out pictures from set. Otherwise it´s on the IMD. 30 million dollar budget is not so bad.

http://englishrussia.com/2011/09/01/the-russian-movie-about-the-battle-of-stalingrad/

#2: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: southern_land,

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:32 am
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I guess 30 mill stretches a little further in Russia

#3: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:37 am
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Probably does when you don't have ass-whole Americans marking everything up by a 1000%

Hopefully it's a Great movie.

#4: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Dima,

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:16 am
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The director is Fedor Bondarchuk, he shot "9th Company" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417397/) about Afghanistan war that failed and was heavily critised by the Afghan war veterans... The other 2 recent movies by him "The inhabited island 1,2" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0972558/) failed drastically as well as his last movie "The spy" (http://www.cometogether.org.uk/content/spy-shpion), so I'd not expect something great out of this movie...

#5: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: mooxe,

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:25 pm
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Oh man... he did 9th Company eh.... not expecting much from this.

#6: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Dima,

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:38 pm
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His father was the great director and actor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bondarchuk):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/ - Waterloo - The film includes some 15,000 Soviet foot soldiers and 2,000 cavalrymen as extras ("it was said that, during its making, director Sergei Bondarchuk was in command of the seventh largest army in the world"[1]). Fifty circus stunt riders were used to perform the dangerous horse falls. These numbers brought an epic quality to the battle scenes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_(1970_film)).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063794/ - War and Peace (Oscar winner).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073488/ - They fought for their country (Oscar nominee) - time is July 1942, retreat to Stalingrad, probably father's fame doesn't leave son in peace Wink

#7: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: MajorFrank,

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:53 am
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mooxe wrote (View Post):

Oh man... he did 9th Company eh.... not expecting much from this.

Yea, I'm not a huge fan of 9th Company either. It focused on the wrong things, the beginning before they get to Afghanistan could have been edited out completely. Etc., just a lot of stuff they could have edited out.

The shots of the Afghan countryside were nice, and the few battle scenes, although even those were kinda iffy in places. The artillery shot into that one village was impressive although a very short scene.

Russians usually have very good actors but the action side kinda falls flat. When I watch a war film I'm not that interested in characters etc. that much, the fighting and realism are stuff that I look for. The film also has to be entartaining, to a point. Not an easy task I admit.

Edit. The French guy, Annaud, directed that awful movie Enemy at the Gates, which did have a pretty good opening scene of the crossing of the river etc. Too bad that movie was a piece of crap otherwise.

#8: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Dima,

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:26 am
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the worst thing in that movie is the last battle...

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Russians usually have very good actors but the action side kinda falls flat. When I watch a war film I'm not that interested in characters etc. that much, the fighting and realism are stuff that I look for. The film also has to be entartaining, to a point. Not an easy task I admit

Try the Brest Fortress aka Fortress of War (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343703/) - probably the best post-Soviet war movie.

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Edit. The French guy, Annaud, directed that awful movie Enemy at the Gates, which did have a pretty good opening scene of the crossing of the river etc. Too bad that movie was a piece of crap otherwise.

that scene is full of shit.

#9: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: MajorFrank,

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:11 am
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Dima wrote (View Post):

that scene is full of shit.

True, but, what can you do. There are so few big productions about the eastern front out there. Books and documentaries do a better job.

I will get The Brest Fortress, thanks for the tip.

#10: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: CC_CO,

Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 3:28 pm
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Looking forward to see that new Stalingrad movie. Can never get enough of eastern-front movies.

Its a bit odd there are so few movies about the eastern front, I mean, that's where the bulk of the war was decided? Weird.

#11: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: CSO_Talorgan,

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:29 pm
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CC_CO wrote (View Post):

Its a bit odd there are so few movies about the eastern front, I mean, that's where the bulk of the war was decided?

The people with money fought in the west.

#12: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: CC_CO,

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:18 pm
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well, yes, could be it is like that.

#13: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Dima,

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:45 pm
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There are alot of EF movies, but only few of them are in English.

#14: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: CSO_Talorgan,

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:40 pm
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That's not a problem.

#15: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Wastemoreland,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:48 am
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CSO_Talorgan wrote (View Post):

That's not a problem.

I beg to differ.
To me, it is SO much more satisfying hearing characters speak their native tongue.
It just puts more realism into the whole thing.

#16: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: Wastemoreland,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:54 am
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[Such a shame. I see you mention that his father made Waterloo, which is one of my favourite war movies of all time.
I´ve seen ninth company to, and I don´t think it was THAT bad as mentioned here.

Ah well. If the apple falls from the three close to the three. What good is it if the three is standing on a steep hill. Wink

#17: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: CC_CO,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:46 am
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But aren't those Russian war movies a bit old?

I hope there will come a new generation of Russian war movies, using the latest technology, to create some of those massive battles that still haven't reached western cinemas or Tv screens.

People here would literally flod the cinemas if the war in Russia was depicted in several Brest style-like movies.

Looking forward to see the new Stalingrad movie.

#18: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: MajorFrank,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:16 pm
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Wastemoreland wrote (View Post):

CSO_Talorgan wrote (View Post):

That's not a problem.

I beg to differ.
To me, it is SO much more satisfying hearing characters speak their native tongue.
It just puts more realism into the whole thing.

Absolutely, I like to see war movies where the characters speak their correct languages. And maybe even that the actors are people from the same nations that the characters that they portray.

I wish the Russians would get together with the Germans and make co-productions, similar to Tora! Tora! Tora! which was a US-Japanese co-production. The German film Untergang/Downfall is a good template for how realistic and historically accurate the film should be.

#19: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:51 pm
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Yea it's lame when they have American or British actors playing the parts of Russians or Germans. Worse is when they have that corny fake accent in broken English to give the illusion of authenticity.

Bridge Too Far and other older movies really nailed it. Brit actors playing British soliders. American actors playing American soldiers. Put the Jerry's or Japanese dialogue in English subtitles...speaking their native language.

Otherwise I have to agree the Hollywood a-hole executives are a bunch of greedy bastards that run movies like Big Corporation. Let movies be made by the creative types and get the jerk business executives and greedy shiesters out of the way. Plus they spend way too much on crap computer graphics that look ridiculous and mark-up the costs to make sure the executives get over-paid. Then try to to dumb-down the scripts and try to rob gullible Americans with $20 super-size Sodas and Popcorn after they buy a ticket. Rolling Eyes

#20: Re: New Stalingrad movie! Author: dj,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:37 pm
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Dima wrote (View Post):

His father was the great director and actor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Bondarchuk):
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066549/ - Waterloo - The film includes some 15,000 Soviet foot soldiers and 2,000 cavalrymen as extras ("it was said that, during its making, director Sergei Bondarchuk was in command of the seventh largest army in the world"[1]). Fifty circus stunt riders were used to perform the dangerous horse falls. These numbers brought an epic quality to the battle scenes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterloo_(1970_film)).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063794/ - War and Peace (Oscar winner).
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073488/ - They fought for their country (Oscar nominee) - time is July 1942, retreat to Stalingrad, probably father's fame doesn't leave son in peace Wink

I would also like to see movies about Leon Trotsky. But I doubt either American or Russian producers have the guts to make. America is STILL paranoid about Communism or even Socialism. Our Elected officials still label opposition party as "Communist" many decades after our McCarthy purges. Russia too is still paranoid about stirring-up controversy or re-litigating past or Josef Stalin. Trotsky was a very interesting person...and his rivalry with Stalin was bizarre. Sent assassins all the way to Mexico to kill him.

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