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#1: nebelwerfers? Author: zoober,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:04 pm
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Played only a few battles in CC5 so far but can't see or hear those rocket launchers:/ Are there any actually in CC5?

#2: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: tigercub, Location: charters towers

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:27 am
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zoober wrote (View Post):

Played only a few battles in CC5 so far but can't see or hear those rocket launchers:/ Are there any actually in CC5?

No they would over power such a small battle, there are in one of the Stalingrad mods and thats what Happens!

Tigercub

#3: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: ArmeeGruppeSud,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:10 am
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zoober wrote (View Post):

Played only a few battles in CC5 so far but can't see or hear those rocket launchers:/ Are there any actually in CC5?

In one of my private mods, before my DOF mod, i did have Nebelwerfers.

To balance the game i gave the Russians KV2s with indirect fire too.

The game degenerated into a battle between the Nebelwerfers and the KV2s, as very powerful indirect fire weapons just totally dominated the game.

We played a few games, just for a lark, then the Nebelwerfers and indirect fire KV2s were removed

CHEERS

AGS

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#4: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: zoober,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:39 pm
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Ok, but how about changing only the sounds for Germans off-map artillery/mortar barrages? Would be nice to hear those evil screaming sounds instead of normal in-game blasts, don't you think? Rolling Eyes

#5: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:24 pm
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TT's Vetmod has them for CC5. 251/1 Nebelwerfer carriers attached to some units, Spotters that fire them as well.

I have an issue if anyone has played TT's vetmod in CC5. 251/1 nebelwerfer carrier to actually fire, even when it *HAS* a LOS. Have not been able to get those to fire yet, either them for acquiring a target, or ordering them to. The spotters perform perfectly with a LOS as they are intended.

#6: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: zoober,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:53 pm
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johnsilver wrote (View Post):

TT's Vetmod has them for CC5. 251/1 Nebelwerfer carriers attached to some units, Spotters that fire them as well.

Thanks for that - I even didn't know that TT made a vetmod for CC5 (I thought he quit after releasing vetBoB for CC4).

Btw, there's also a plugin for Nebelwerfers for CC5:

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Main Features:
Nebelwerfer 41, Plugin Version;
- Nebel Werfer 15cm has been added
- In-game Nebel Werfer vehicle graphics

http://www.closecombatseries.net/CCS/modules.php?name=Downloads&op=getit&lid=409

It looks like nobody plays classic CC5 these days.

#7: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:12 pm
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IMO, the CC5 version is much better than the CC4 version and add the repainted maps found here:

TT repainted maps

It makes it much better and kind of like a rebuilt campaign altogether compared to the CC4 version. Don't expect units anywhere near full strength either and many have weak (grenadier/Spahtrup) as core makeup.

Am currently nearly finished and this one, thus far is the best.. Or until Platoon_Michael gets the time to implement the finishing touches on the WAR one more than likely. Reduced amount of troops, Spotters must have LOS, Schreck/Bazookas only fire outside of buildings etc..

If you try the CC5 one, take a look at it with TT's repainted map pack linked above. Many look gorgeous.

#8: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: zoober,

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:38 pm
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Those repainted maps are also available for CC4:) But are you trying to say that CC5 version of VetBoB is different from the original?

#9: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:39 pm
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zoober wrote (View Post):

Those repainted maps are also available for CC4:) But are you trying to say that CC5 version of VetBoB is different from the original?

The addition of the forcepool is the main difference.

Both are nice in different ways. I would suggest trying both. They play very different, as does the one in WAR and are all very enjoyable. IMO? The best mod for CC, but that is just me of course. The CC5 and WAR are splendid with the forcepool.

#10: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: platoon_michael, Location: Right behind you

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:10 am
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johnsilver wrote (View Post):

TT's Vetmod has them for CC5. 251/1 Nebelwerfer carriers attached to some units, Spotters that fire them as well.

I have an issue if anyone has played TT's vetmod in CC5. 251/1 nebelwerfer carrier to actually fire, even when it *HAS* a LOS. Have not been able to get those to fire yet, either them for acquiring a target, or ordering them to. The spotters perform perfectly with a LOS as they are intended.

The 251/1 has a minimum range to help balance the game out due to the overwhelming effect.
I don't know what it is but I do remember it being pretty far.
That's why it doesn't fire.
Also has a very long reload time,chances are you will find it hard to use more than once in a Battle.

Same goes for CCIV

#11: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: zoober,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:00 pm
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@johnsilver
Thank you for your comments on VetBoB for CC5 and WaR. I'll definitely try its CC5 incarnation.

@platoon_michael
Actually I could swear I heard once those rocket launchers in TT's VetBoB but can't recall what map was it:( But I'm pretty sure it was while playing the latest version of this mod. Now I got installed 1.11 and haven't seen/heard any Nebelwerfers.

But I asked about them here because I was watching documentary "Battlefield II - The Battle for Caen" and found out that they caused huge casualties among Allied troops. Here's that part of this film:

Link

(You can >> to 3:45 to check info on Nebelwerfers in Normandy.)

I didn't know about that but it'd suggest that these rocket launchers were broadly used by Germans. So I thought it'd nice to have them in CC5 since they played a significant role. But if it's gonna break the balance in game then it's fine the way it is now;)

#12: Re: nebelwerfers? Author: johnsilver, Location: Florida

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:39 am
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But if it's gonna break the balance in game then it's fine the way it is now;)

I cannot think of anything worse to totally destroy the other side than the awful and way too powerful artillery that both CC4 and CC5 have for the called in artillery barrage that is allowed on some turns. Not only do those 2 CC games have far more powerful than WAR, but the amount of shells landing seems to be nearly double and that is for both axis and allied.

The axis can only call in on the initial maps at least, something good, but allows the player to waltz thru those on turn 1 with ease. The WAR artillery is much weaker thankfully and the CC4/5 mortar support is heavy mortar also. Just heavier support in general.

I do like the heavy mortar support, was just a surprise and maybe a fe less each turn, though I did limit to 1-2 each day due to power.

Maybe because was used to the WAR version also? The CC5 one is nice however as a change for a bit and did start a 2nd campaign.

JS

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