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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: "Saving Private Ryan" and two questions Reply with quote

Hello CC community;
A few days ago,I watched "Saving Private Ryan" for another time.
I approve ,with no doubt,It is one of the best WWII movie ever made.
But after the movie,the following questions came to my mind:

-At the last scenes of the movie,There's a battle between
elements "US 101st AB" and a (probably) batalion of
"2nd SS Panzer division(Das Reich)".As far as I know these units
didnt met eachothers in Normandy(2nd SS had a month delay before arriving
the battlefield).I will be appreciate to everyone who gives me
information about it.

-As you all know well,2nd SS didnt has got any "Tigers".And There were not any
"Tigers" in American sector of Normandy.So,What are those two Tigers in the movie?

Once again I want say that, "Saving Private Ryan" is one of the best WWII
movie till now.

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-Kambiz


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Dima

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Kami,

IMO SPR movie does not pretend to be historical so don't take it too serious.

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As far as I know these units didnt met eachothers in Normandy(2nd SS had a month delay before arriving
the battlefield).I will be appreciate to everyone who gives me
information about it.

yep u r rite. A
s far as i understood SPR shows June. And rangers travel from Omaha to Utah sector. The only SS unit in Utah sector was 17.SS-PzD and it didn't posses any tank.

Quote:
-As you all know well,2nd SS didnt has got any "Tigers".And There were not any "Tigers" in American sector of Normandy.So,What are those two Tigers in the movie?

i guess to show the DRAMA.
Plus it's easier to make Tiger from T34 than any other german tank.

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Once again I want say that, "Saving Private Ryan" is one of the best WWII movie till now.

yeah!
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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

also in the movie they said there were 2 panzers but they only had the 2 tigers, a marder 2, and a marder 3. where were the panzers?


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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All;
Quote:
IMO SPR movie does not pretend to be historical so don't take it too serious.

Yes,I think so,but As I told you,I'm afraid of missing somthing(I mean Lack of information).So decided to ask it of others.

Quote:
also in the movie they said there were 2 panzers but they only had the 2 tigers, a marder 2, and a marder 3. where were the panzers?

Heh,Thanks king_tiger_tank,I didnt pay attention to this one. Very Happy

Ah...Dima,I'd like to thank you for Utah.Its great.I hope you release the 1.4
soon.I have some suggestions about the mod which if you want,I will post
them later.

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-Kambiz


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Dima

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
.I hope you release the 1.4 soon.I have some suggestions about the mod which if you want,I will post them later.

sure do it in Utah forum.
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rufus

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,a tiger is a panzer,panzerkampfwagen vi or armoured fighting vehicle 6.
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cavallot




PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: Best ww2 Movie Reply with quote

Hi chaps

I agree "Save private Ryan" is one of the best ww2 movie ever, but I would recomend an older one, defenitely based on a smaller budget, and made in the 70ies, when the special effects were not so good and there was no computer editing.
I am talking about "Cross of Iron" (1977) with James Coburn.
Very realistic, very raw, very though!
Have a look at the close assault of the Russian of the Germans lines...
Scarry adrenalinic!
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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

rufus wrote:
hi,a tiger is a panzer,panzerkampfwagen vi or armoured fighting vehicle 6.

no when the american sniper in the tower was signalling what was coming tom hanks said
Quote:
2 tigers, 2 panzers, 50+ men
and when they got to the scene of the molivtov cocktails that was a Marder 1 and to the scene where the company sargent shot the bazooka and shot at the one tank that was a marder 3


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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

cavallot,What is the movie subject? I mean What operation or battle recreated in this movie.

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rufus wrote:
hi,a tiger is a panzer,panzerkampfwagen vi or armoured fighting vehicle 6.

no when the american sniper in the tower was signalling what was coming tom hanks said Quote:
2 tigers, 2 panzers, 50+ men
and when they got to the scene of the molivtov cocktails that was a Marder 1 and to the scene where the company sargent shot the bazooka and shot at the one tank that was a marder 3


I'm agreed with you king_tiger_tank. Laughing

Ah king_tiger_tank,When you are in Game Spy?I'd like to meet you mate. Wink

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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah king_tiger_tank,When you are in Game Spy?I'd like to meet you mate. :wink:

Regard
-Kambiz

my computer is very bad and i have the problem with unexpected quits so i don't go on game spy that often. i'll redownload it and get it going though. (and i'm busy learning to mod to create the italy mod for CC5)


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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi King;
I'm so sorry about your computer.Maybe you need to reinstall your Windows.
However,I hope your PC problem be solved soon.And I'm waiting for your Italy mod.

Good luck king_tiger_tank
-Kambiz


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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:23 am Post subject: Reply with quote

i went and made 3 pages of battles now and i have to wait on the reinstalling but i have and solved many problems lately. my big problem is that if my is computer is compatible with the modding tools


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cavallot




PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: Cross of Iron Reply with quote

Pzt_Kami

"Cross of Iron" takes place on the Easthern Front, somewhere, probably in summer 44, and the story is on the German side.
James Coburn is a Sgt. fighting his own war, not just against the Red Army, but against corruption, violence, etc.
Very good!


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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi;
[quote=cavallot]"Cross of Iron" takes place on the Easthern Front, somewhere, probably in summer 44, and the story is on the German side.
James Coburn is a Sgt. fighting his own war, not just against the Red Army, but against corruption, violence, etc.
Very good![/quote]

Hmmm,Guess I saw somthing like this some years ago,But thanks.

After "Saving Private Ryan" and "Bamd of Brothers" series,I havent seen movie like these.What's your idea about the next WWII movie title?


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Pzt_Wruff

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Kami. You certainly must see "der Untergang" , translated Downfall. A newer german movie. Released in 2005.

It's set in Berlin, April 1945.
The best WWII movie I've seen in years.

Here's the main site with info and some good clips:
http://www.downfallthefilm.com/


Here's the topic over at Pzt forum:
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RedScorpion

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

man i love this movie, can only agree with wruff! seen it like 5 times in a year, and cant get enough. thinking every week i should watch it anew. one of my top movies ever. cant get enough of the feeling of damnation and the figures are uncannily cast really... just look at goebbels! moreover, movie is very historical, i remembered the scenes and facts from the book by J. Fest (also named Der Untergang) when i first saw movie. top notch!


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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

i found another imperfection on saving private ryan. in the last battle the american sniper (i can't remorize names well) didn't reload his gun (he shot like 12 rounds) before he was blown to bits.


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Pzt_Kami

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi comrades;
I saw this movie General.Yes,Its realy great.Guess I saw it nearly 10 times(More than you RedScorpion Wink ).Although I saw it in original language and didnt find out what they are saying in the movie.But this film is about the last days of the 3rd Reich.Most of the movie happen in the Hitler bunker.We see few scenes in battle.I'm talking about a movie which shows a battle or Ops in WWII.I think a movie about 12th SS Div. around "Caen" can be interesting.For example "The tragic history of the Hitler youth in Normandy".What's your idea?


King_Tiger_Tank wrote:
i found another imperfection on saving private ryan. in the last battle the american sniper (i can't remorize names well) didn't reload his gun (he shot like 12 rounds) before he was blown to bits.


Yes,Another mperfection. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

i think there is a dvd version of Downfall for the us

so it must be in english
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king_tiger_tank

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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:08 am Post subject: Reply with quote

another good WW2 movie is The Big Red One. it was pretty accurate history and weapons.


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