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Therion

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

flick wrote:
So where is this stuff uploaded?

Will I get into trouble if I download?

Or will the original uploaders be the ones fighting-off kimbo slice. in the prison showers?

I wouldn't try if I were you. It's more just a piracy this time. It's cooperation in distribution of/getting illegal access to trade secrets.


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CSO_Linebacker

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: Reply with quote

flick wrote:
So where is this stuff uploaded?

Will I get into trouble if I download?

Or will the original uploaders be the ones fighting-off kimbo slice. in the prison showers?


Well...it really is up to you and is an ethical/character question that only you can answer. Of course, should you choose one course of action over the other, don't post screenshots and reports....admitting to being in possession of stolen property can never be a good thing.


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ANZAC_Tack

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote

prison showers is a possibility for any torrent downloaded of illegalls uploaded files. WaR beta, CCMAT is no different, dont pick up the soap!!!


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ZAPPI4

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Because someone has to pay for the rights to make CC series?


lol, that's what we did for 4 years now


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ANZAC_Tack

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Reply with quote

how has anybody here ever "paid' for the right to the code? yeah i played it for thousands of hours, so if i decided to make a map or mod i now 'own' the original gaming engine?


thats literally like saying i bought a 1999 model toyota carolla camry(like i did) and say putting in a new CD player, speakes and mag wheels,new all non factory stuff, so now i own ALL the old interlectual property, and can copy and sell it? Obviously nobody knows about copyright or interlectual rights who posts such fantasy!

yes after 11 years i feel like i own a little piece of CC,but im not dumb enough to think a company will give me all there original codes,tools.wake the fuck up people.


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schrecken

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: Reply with quote

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Because someone has to pay for the rights to make CC series?


lol, that's what we did for 4 years now


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ZAPPI4

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont care about a code or so
I said ... COI, WAR, Dday are all updated game.
Updated game what coming cos CC still alive trought the entiere community.
I'm all right to buy CC6, i dont see why i had to buy any Update when we give
to developper the opportunity to releasde official update of older CC.
Does i have to remind you than CC developper released No official patch for approximatly
each CC...


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Roel




PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Therion wrote:

CCMAT, Sean O'Connor's Firefight, ArmoredBrigade.


Never played them, but I'll defintely take a look now!
Thx,

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schrecken

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:59 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
i dont see why i had to buy any Update when we give
to developper


You don't have to buy anything, why do you think you do?

and You give what?

Simtek/S3T have updated and patched every release they have been involved with, and the support is ongoing and current.

It doesn't matter how much you whine and whinge and make up stories you can't change the facts.

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ZAPPI4

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

schrecken wrote:
Quote:
i dont see why i had to buy any Update when we give
to developper


You don't have to buy anything, why do you think you do?

and You give what?

Simtek/S3T have updated and patched every release they have been involved with, and the support is ongoing and current.

It doesn't matter how much you whine and whinge and make up stories you can't change the facts.

CCS where grognards moderate. (suggested catch phrase for this site)


Lol; COI was free and what about WAR... ? so i ll need to buy it.

What i give? i spend my time ( no only myself) to
play the game
Give a good support for the game ( CCS )
...

MMmh, did simtek, S3T release a CC4 patch? CC3 patch? CCv patch?
Wink

Of course i ll dont change the story, all i see is just the Facts


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Therion

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

ZAPPI4 wrote:
i dont care about a code or so
I said ... COI, WAR, Dday are all updated game.
Updated game what coming cos CC still alive trought the entiere community.
I'm all right to buy CC6, i dont see why i had to buy any Update when we give
to developper the opportunity to releasde official update of older CC.

Because without money, there's no CC6?
It's not, like ST3T got those rights and all the stuff for free because Atomic thought that it would great if someone would make patches for their games - Matrix had to pay for them.


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ZAPPI4

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

fact than without money CC6 cant be created.

M'i stupid to think than S3T or anyother will work on CC6 for free?
Does i said that?

I doubt than Matrix count about any Rerelase sell to make the money needed for CC6.

U miss just than, CC will see a 6Th opus cos, CSO, CCS, and many other small site,
a lot of modder keep CC alive. What does CC official developper give to them?
Does they made official patch to correct the game than everyone using?
NO
But they work on something new than everyone from CC community will must to pay
to get a possible free bug game.


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andy26




PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

is Close Combat Red Phoenix made as i hear in the past it was not made wish it would good to play Korean War on cc .Does any one know if it was made
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Therion

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

ZAPPI4 wrote:
U miss just than, CC will see a 6Th opus cos, CSO, CCS, and many other small site,
a lot of modder keep CC alive. What does CC official developper give to them?
Does they made official patch to correct the game than everyone using?
NO

Except that there's a problem: while it's true that the CC modding community kept CC alive, it's not like it didn't mod for its own enjoyment, isn't it?

Matrix is a business. That guy clearly said that they had to pay money to get the rights to CC and now they want a some of that money back, like any sane company. Eliminating a big part of potential customers by releasing a free patch for someone else's game made with code that they paid for would be borderline stupid.

ZAPPI4 wrote:
I doubt than Matrix count about any Rerelase sell to make the money needed for CC6.

Which doesn't really matter as providing funds is usually a publisher's job. But then there's a difference between funding a game just after buying it from a mainstream publisher and funding a game after some of the costs of obtaining the licence was paid off.
It may be a difference between the project being a big black hole that eats tons of money and finally gets axed and the cost of a project being acceptable and the finished new game being released.

Geez, wargame publishers aren't bathing in cash.


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ZAPPI4

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

you are right Therion ...

But i dont allowe the same way.

I guess, when you live with a woman who get kids, u take the wife and the kids.
Not only a part.
Matrix bought the CC licence, so they bought the community as well.
Taking care of your money is human.
Taking care of who will give you your money isnt so good?
For me, Matrix cant bought CC licence and working only on updated game.
They have to see closely to what they bought and what need a support.
Of course working on a CC older opus patch means, working for free as they cant
sell it. But Working on this kind of stuff will bring "honnor" of Matrix.
But never mind. I hope nothing from them


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flick

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember kids, you steal from teh internetz, it's you and kimbo fighting for the top bunk..

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RD_Roach

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:05 am Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
What is your beef with CC4/5? A lot of people think the mini game or strat layer makes it a better game. If Sulla would tell us I bet COI has outsold CCMT by a huge margin, mainly because CCMT is less of a game and more a training tool. The CC community has always been split between CC2, CC3 and CC4/5 and people would like to see the re-releases or CC6 move in the direction of their favorite. Well WAR is a gold version/re-release of CC4 which had a strat layer so quit complaining about. Just like the others should stop complaining about the Matrix/S3T approach as they have decided what they are going to do so let them execute their plan and vote with your dollars on the re-releases and the eventual CC6 if/when it comes….



Spot on Darren!! completly agree.

I remember the Zone days...and some that are stil here,posting in this thread even..wishing the bugs in CC5 were fixed,and even spouted that they would even be willing to pay for it!! me being one of those guys!..Well those things have been worked on...Ill even go as far to say,it was the most important thing on the *to do list* esp as far as the ones obligated by contrat to produce!!!

Everything else (or most of)that has been done to this rerelease,(present&future)has been done by guys that have no obligation whatsoever to any of these rerelease contrats!!! They do it only because they are trully dedicated fans of the CC series!!Ive witnessed this personally as a beta tester(and for the record,the only pay i get is a free copy of the game)(If its sold for $40 divided by 100dres of hours...well you do the math) and thats just as a tester...most of the development team...Graphics/Programing/Data/...have also been doing things for free..Why? for the same reason as me..most are long time dedicated fans of the CC series! and are only trying to make CC a better game!! and IMO have done a steller job so far,and only to get better the more the work on it.

Some say give us CC6,feck the rereleases..some say why do i have to pay for upgrades to a game i already payed for..some say why hasnt the code been released to the public cause is such a old game..

Will it be completly bug free or perfect...NO..name me one game that didnt need a patch or 2?...Even WIndows XP/Vista has bugs and patches..and supposedly made by the experts!! Stop nit pickin!

Well for CC to move forward the code had to be bought and payed for.
Why wasnt the code freely released to the public...because thier isint any game comparable to it on the market..its unique and in a class of its own!

This is my opinion not factual,the money spent on the code,has to be recouped first and formost..for CC6(new engine) to become a reality,one of 2 things need to happen...profit from rereleases or a profound interest in the game by gamers or both..think about it..they are only going to do this if thiers a profit to be made...if not,,why would they do it!!


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Nuuye

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Hmm Reply with quote

Sulla wrote:
Glad you are all enjoying the beta that was illegaly uploaded. But as Mooxe is always saying anything is alllowed here!Sulla


Can I have the link, please?

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Nuuye

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Hmm Reply with quote

Nuuye wrote:
Sulla wrote:
Glad you are all enjoying the beta that was illegaly uploaded. But as Mooxe is always saying anything is alllowed here!Sulla


Can I have the link, please?

Nounouille


I just can't understand why so many people here are so agressive against Matrix.....

We should all be behind CC6, no?

Nuuye


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Sulla

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Sulla wrote:
Glad you are all enjoying the beta that was illegaly uploaded. But as Mooxe is always saying anything is alllowed here!Sulla


Can I have the link, please?


So,

You want me to post the link to the original post linking the files OR the links to the files themsleves?

The torrent link has gone, I requested them to remove all illegal files from that uploader and a search of the torrent for CC now only brings up what I would expect, old CC versions, CoI etc! The military stuff and new beta builds have gone!

LMAO, me defensive, about my companies property being stolen and linked to download? Hmm, how dare I! Or any of the people working on the game!

Mr "3 posts Nuuye Can I have the link, please?" You do I suppose know how to use the forum search function? Heres some help, look for a post by Mr_Tank

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