Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:15 am Post subject: Re: The Longest Day serial needed
knee jerk?
Figured it was common sense.
Strange.
Just doesn't make much sense to me is all.
Whatever I guess.
"To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul.
Go."
- Final Terminal Message, Marathon Infinity
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: The Longest Day serial needed
Quote:
THE ENCLOSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND THIS MANUAL ARE COPYRIGHTED. ALL RIGHTS ARE RESERVED. THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER MAY PRINT OR HAVE A PRINT/COPY SHOP MAKE A PRINTOUT AND/OR COPY OF THE MANUAL. MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC GRANTS THE ORIGINAL PURCHASER OF THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE THE RIGHT TO USE ONE COPY OF THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM. YOU MAY NOT RENT OR LEASE IT, DISASSEMBLE, DECOMPILE, REVERSE ENGINEER, OR MODIFY THE SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY. ALL EDITORS MAY BE USED TO CREATE SCENARIOS THAT MAY BE FREELY DISTRIBUTED. ALL SCENARIO AUTHORS HOLD THE ULTIMATE RIGHTS TO THEIR DESIGNED SCENARIOS AND MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC MAKES NO CLAIMS THEREOF. YOU MAY NOT COPY OR DISTRIBUTE COPIES IN ANY MEDIA FORM. ANY PERSONS DOING SO SHALL BE GUILTY OF COPYRIGHT VIOLATION AND SUBjECT TO THE APPROPRIATE CIVIL OR CRIMINAL ACTION AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER.
Now it sounds like you are just being silly with your whole "show me where it says no sharing serials" well the above statement makes it pretty clear what they are getting at and you (who runs a CC site and should know better) are allowing this thread with it implications to continue to exist. The fact I even have to explain this is mind-numbing. It also explains quite a bit....
Even your own rules say:
Quote:
13. Warez
No copyrighted or trademarked (warez) material will be tolerated.
But let me guess, because it is "only" a serial you doesn't think that qualifies under strict-scrutiny as warez right?
Support the game. Support the Devs. Don't let people steal their hard work for free. It's no wonder I'm running into a wall at Matrix they probably see this shit and say "Fuck'em"
Be an admin and run a community...sorry to say but now it looks more like you just run a crack house and don't care what goes in or out. What benefit does that provide?
"To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul.
Go."
- Final Terminal Message, Marathon Infinity
To not fix (or refund) the dysfunctional product when it’s pointed out, is illegal.
To sell a product with known problems, is illegal.
In the marketing law (MFL).
Its illegal to sell a product that doesn’t match its description.
Its illegal for a company or its representatives to communicate with prospect consumer without clearly showing there true flag, (example: as posting here, and not say one is a representative from the developer or distributor).
Yep, we must take a firm stand against the decadence, the immorality, the illegal activity’s in the CC community.
Where does one start, how about:
Who wants there money back, or, who wants a working game?
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: The Longest Day serial needed
There is no justification for infringement of Copyright. There is a possible case for having your money refunded if the game does not work on your PC, but you had better be able to prove that it is because the game is 'broken, that is it does not work on a PC according to the specifications stated, and I think you would have a hard time doing that, because they patently do work on PC's according to the stated specifications. If I were responsible for selling the Game, I would certainly consider a refund if the buyer could demonstrate that it would not work on his/her PC, after providing technical support which proved unsuccessful, but that is just my opinion.
To allow the use of a Web Site to engage in Copywrite infringement has been tested in Law, and the owners of a Web Site are culpable, and can be sued. A Disclaimer does not in this case release the owner(s) from this liability.
What never ceases to amaze me is the stupidity of those who engage in Copywrite infringement. Jager for example could have merely sent the Serial Number in a Private Message, and nobody would have been the wiser. That is not a statement in support of Copywrite infringement, but an illustration of their stupidity.
Most of the arguments put forward in support of Copysrite infringement are bollox. What makes me feel contempt for most of them is the double standards (hypocrisy) that they have. If you were to create your own game, Copywrite it, and offer it for sale, you would be jusified in being upset if it were to be pirated, as that would in effect be stealing from you. I can't beleive anyone who does this would be happy to have their work stolen, and if they said they would, I would not believe them. Would you?
I have some sympathy with the standpoint of a Web Site Owner declaring that they do not support illegal activities and disclaim repsonsibility. The opinions and the actions of visitors and members may not indeed represent the views of the owner(s), but like I said, this has now been tested in Law, and Web Site Owner(s) cannot avoid liability. Whether any action is taken against them will depend on the scope of the infringement (how big the Web Site, how intense the amount of infringement, and how active the 'injured' parties choose to be with regard to litigation, etc). In my experience, Destineer are not shy of litigation.
As to what kind of of opinion you may have with regards to any Web Site that allows Copywrite infringement to take place, I leave up to you. I know if I wanted to be trusted and respected, how I would choose....
I want a working game.
I also feel entitled to a free game for the many hours I've put in for Beta testing WAR.
You feel "entitled" to a free game for beta testing on your own free will?
I've helped 3 old ladies cross the road. I feel entitled to always getting the right of way while driving even with people in crosswalks for all the times I've helped old ladies across. It entitles me to whatever I want, even though I did it of my own free will.
Seriously? The best way to get a developer to help you is to be a positive supporter of the game. Simply bashing their hard work because there are still errors and then demanding an immediate fix because somehow you are entitled to it it a bit much.
Certainly they have an obligation to fix a product when it contains major errors, however I don't see you freaking out all over the Microsoft forums because Windows has sucked since 1995. Think of all the hours you've wasted when their OS has screwed up...have you received a free copy of every Windows update since you started using it?
It's funny to read the posts by some of you. "Blah blah blah I'm entitled to this and that...." How many other products have you purchased that have issues and have you gotten to the same level of stupidity?
Why not try to create a positive relationship with those working on the games? Have you ever gotten laid by telling a girl "well since I'm paying for dinner and the movie tonight YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH ME because I feel entitled for doing x, y and z."
I have to agree with vonB, only a moron would have posted the serial to the forums. A PM and no one would have known, but the fact that it was posted and then ignored by the admin is just dumb. Things like that is why you probably get shitty responses from them. If I was one of them and saw this shit I'd say screw them too.
Isn't there a little bit of sanity here?
All the things I've read across the different CC forums are now making much more sense....
"To you, we are deeply grateful, and release what little hold we might, as Durandal, have had on your soul.
Go."
- Final Terminal Message, Marathon Infinity
I have to agree with vonB, only a moron would have posted the serial to the forums. A PM and no one would have known, but the fact that it was posted and then ignored by the admin is just dumb. Things like that is why you probably get shitty responses from them. If I was one of them and saw this shit I'd say screw them too.
Its the third time now, yet missed the point again:
I've helped 3 old ladies cross the road. I feel entitled to always getting the right of way while driving even with people in crosswalks for all the times I've helped old ladies across. It entitles me to whatever I want, even though I did it of my own free will
But, what if the ladies made money from the “street walking”? Wouldn’t you want some compensation then, I mean a part of the action? Seems fair to me.
Seriously? The best way to get a developer to help you is to be a positive supporter of the game. Simply bashing their hard work because there are still errors and then demanding an immediate fix because somehow you are entitled to it it a bit much.
We tried that for years, look what it brought us: ------
however I don't see you freaking out all over the Microsoft forums because Windows has sucked since 1995.
Ohh, ppl do all the time, I do to.. Have you missed that. But I cant see ole Bill bashing the complainers though. He’s acting professional, and support his products. Is that bad?
have you received a free copy of every Windows update since you started using it?
Hm, I get free updates of there product at a regular basis, I believed everyone with a legal copy of there product receive that? That seem to be a good practice to me?
YOU HAVE TO SLEEP WITH ME because I feel entitled for doing x, y and z."
Lets see, analog. Well, if your paying for it, (a prostitute) then you should demand she for filled here part of the deal. Sort of like, ppl paid for getting good working games, and service, patches? Is that to much to ask for?
All it needs is the will to do it and that I'm afraid is an upper management decision.... the same people that haven't made the decision to fix the CoI MMCC3 servers or to patch CCMT/WaR/tLD adequatelydespite the large number of reported problems.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: The Longest Day serial needed
CCMT is based on CCM which was good enough for the marines who paid for it. It's biggest problem isn't the data or the game engine but that it has no game part to it, a CC3/COI or CC4/5 or WAR/TLD campaign, for people to play single player.
All the excuses/reasons for assisting with and or pirating CC do not change the fact that it lowers sales and it could be enough that they decide to not make another CC release.
Some maybe do not care as they do not feel it is changing fast enough and that is their choice. For me at least the re-releases are fixing bugs and adding some features and without them we would still be playing a 10 year old buggy release of CC5....
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