Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:07 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Just an update:
Pretty boring stuff at the moment. We are reviewing and entering data for the guide lists that will shape the eventual data files. I love data, but even I get tired of it after staring at too many spreadsheets.
Anywho - the working lists, which update instantaneously thanks to the marvel of modern technoloGOOGLEology are all found Here at the OMG mod dev site.
The overall situation is pretty much like this:
Allied lists are up to finalising BG, Team, and Force Pool data.
Axis data is up to working out the BGs, but the Axis BG, Team, and Force Pool data was always going to take the longest to complete, and will probably be the last thing to be finalised.
Battle map placements are going through another draft.
Riveting stuff.
Hoogs out.
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
It's done!
The first complete list of my German OOB.
Since I don't have all available sources (and the K.st.N broke my old school-German) you are all free to read it and PM me with comments and corrections.
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Guys, any news on this?
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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:55 am Post subject: Mod Status Update
Mod Status Update - Well, we've been a little under the radar for a while just working hard on the preliminary lists for the eventual data files. It's funny how things can seem to not be moving at all when a pile of effort is none the less being fed into the work machine. However, I am happy to say that there are a couple of milestones worth mentioning.
Firstly, as stated above, 7A_Woulf has completed the first final draft for the Axis BG list; in an astounding time frame, I might add, since I thought this was a pretty tough job to undertake. Not only did it come quicker than I thought, but he's managed to bring forward a final BG list smaller than the number of spaces left, which was another unexpected achievement.
So, our final Allied BG list will be something akin to this:
III. Btl./Gren. Rgt. 1 'Landstorm Nederland'
KG Brinkmann
I./ Grenadier Regiment 16
6./14. Schiffstamm Abt.
10. Schiffstamm Abt.
Btl. 'Worrowski'
FJ Regiment Von Hoffmann (Static)
Flak Abteilung 424 (Static)
FlaK Bataillone 18 (Static)
Fliegerhorst Btl. 3
KG Becker
KG Bruhns
KG Eberwein
KG Ewald
KG Fuerstenberg
KG Goebel
KG Greschick
KG Harmel
KG Helle (SS Wacht Btl. 3)
KG Henke (Static - Nijmegen City)
KG Henke (Static - Nijmengen Bridge)
KG Hermann
KG Huber
KG Jungwirth
KG Kerutt (Static - Valkenswaard)
KG Kerutt (Tank ambush) (Static - Borkel en Shaft)
KG Knaust
KG Knoche
KG Krafft
KG Lippert
KG Reinhold
KG Richter
KG Rink
KG Spinder
KG Stargaard
KG von Allwoerden
Marsch Bataillon Zedlitz
Rail Bridge Garrison (Static)
Panzer Brigade 107
Speerverband Harzer
Speerverband Son (Static)
SS Pz.Aufklär. Abt. 9
Stadtkommandant Arnhem (Static)
V.d.H Regiment (FJ Reg. 6)
And, in fact, I see that this is only 63 Mobile BGs in size, so we've still got one more to add somewhere... hmmmm, anyway, there's too much data for just one post, so this will continue below...
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:13 am Post subject: Mod Status Update
... here.
The second milestone, although slightly preemptive, is that ronson has pumped out allied BG team list after BG team list, and I am proud to say that the foundation for the complete allied teams lists is almost done. There's just the Glider Pilot formations to nail down, but other than that, we're pretty good.
190 odd teams. No kidding. See below:
UK Para HQ Bren Gun Carrier
UK Para Company HQ
UK Para Platoon HQ
UK Para Rifle Section
UK Para Rifle Group
UK Para Gun Group
UK Para HQ Defence Section
UK Para Assault Section
UK Para (Recce) Pathfinders
UK Para RE Engineer Section
UK Para RE Assault Engineers
UK Para AT Group
UK Para Lt Mortar Group
UK Para Med Mortar Group
UK Para MMG Group
UK Para Intelligence Sniper
UK Para Jeep
UK Airlanding Company HQ
UK Airlanding Platoon HQ
UK Airlanding HQ Defence Section
UK Airlanding Gun Group
UK Airlanding Rifle Group
UK Airlanding Rifle Section
UK Airlanding RE Assault Engineers
UK Airlanding AT Group
UK Airlanding Section Snipers
UK Airlanding Lt Mortar Group
UK Airlanding Md Mortar Group
UK Airlanding MMG Group
UK Airlanding Lt AT Group
UK Airlanding Hv AT Group
UK Airborne RE Pioneer Section (?)
UK Airborne Hv Mortar Group
UK Airborne Recce MMG Jeep
UK Airborne Recce HQ Jeep
UK Airborne AA Section
UK Airborne Mortar Section
UK Glider Pilot Company HQ
UK Glider Pilot Platoon HQ
UK Glider Pilot Rifle Section
UK Armd Cav Staghound HQ
UK Armd Cav Staghound
UK Armd Cav Daimler Scout Car
UK Armd Cav Daimler Armoured Car
UK Armd Cav AEC Armoured Car
UK Armd Cav Humber Scout Car
UK Armd Cav Half-track
UK Armd Cav Platoon HQ
UK Armd Cav Recce Section
UK Armd Cav AT Group
UK Armd Cav Gun Group
UK Armd Sherman HQ Tank
UK Armd Cromwell HQ Tank
UK Armd Stuart HQ Tank
UK Armd Daimler HQ Scout Car
UK Armd Humber HQ Scout Car
UK Armd Daimler Scout Car
UK Armd Humber Scout Car
UK Armd Stuart Light Tank
UK Armd Sherman Tank
UK Armd Sherman Firefly Tank
UK Armd Cromwell Tank
UK Armd Cromwell CS Tank
UK Armd Challenger Tank
UK Armd Achilles SP AT Gun
UK Armd Sexton SP Artillery
UK Recce Daimler HQ
UK Recce Humber LRC HQ
UK Recce Bren Gun Carrier HQ
UK Recce Daimler Armoured Car
UK Recce Humber Armoured Car
UK Recce Humber LRC
UK Recce Bren Gun Carrier
UK Recce PIAT Carrier
UK Recce Mortar
UK Recce AT Gun
UK Recce Assault Section
UK Recce Halftrack
UK Mot Inf HQ Half-track
UK Mot Inf HQ Bren Gun Carrier
UK Mot Inf Company HQ
UK Mot Inf Platoon HQ
UK Mot Inf Infantry Section
UK Mot Inf AT Group
UK Mot Inf Lt Mortar Group
UK Mot Inf Md Mortar Group
UK Mot Inf Daimler Scout Car
UK Mot Inf White Scout Car
UK Mot Inf Lt AT Gun
UK Mot Inf Bren Gun Carrier
UK Mot Inf Vickers Carrier
UK Mot Inf PIAT Carrier
UK Mot Inf Recce Half Section
UK Mot Inf Recce Section
UK Mot Inf MMG Group
UK Mot Inf Medium Mortar Group
UK Mot Inf Heavy Mortar Group
UK Mot Inf Lt AA Truck
UK Mot Inf Hv AT Gun
UK Mot Inf RE Engineer Section
UK Mot Inf RE Divisional Engineers
UK Mot Inf RE Half-track
UK Mot Inf RE Humber Scout Car
UK Inf HQ Bren Gun Carrier
UK Inf Company HQ
UK Inf Platoon HQ
UK Inf Bren Gun Carrier
UK Inf Wasp Carrier
UK Inf Rifle Group
UK Inf Hv Rifle Group
UK Inf RE Assault Section
UK Inf Gun Group
UK Inf Sniper
UK Inf AT Group
UK Inf Lt Mortar Group
UK Inf Med Mortar Group
UK Inf Lt AT Gun
UK Inf Recce Troops
UK Inf RE Pioneer Section
UK Inf MMG Group
UK Inf Hv Mortar Group
UK Inf 40mm AA Gun
UK Inf Lt AT Gun
UK Inf Hv AT Gun
UK Inf Achilles SP AT Gun
UK Inf Humber Scout Car
UK Inf Daimler Armoured Car
UK Inf Humber Armoured Car
Polish Para Company HQ
Polish Para Platoon HQ
Polish Para Rifle Section
Polish Para Rifle Group
Polish Para Gun Group
Polish Para HQ Defense Section
Polish Para Assault Section
Polish Para Engineer Section
Polish Para Assault Engineers
Polish Para AT Group
Polish Para Lt Mortar Group
Polish Para Med Mortar Group
Polish Para MMG Group
Polish Para Sniper
Dutch Mot Inf Command HQ
Dutch Mot Inf HQ Bren Gun Carrier
Dutch Mot Inf Company HQ
Dutch Mot Inf Platoon HQ
Dutch Mot Inf HQ Defence Section
Dutch Mot Inf Rifle Section
Dutch Mot Inf Lt Mortar Group
Dutch Mot Inf AT Group
Dutch Mot Inf MMG Group
Dutch Mot Inf Md Mortar
Dutch Mot Inf Lt AT Gun
Dutch Mot Inf Recce HQ Carrier
Dutch Mot Inf Recce Company HQ
Dutch Mot Inf Recce Rifle Group
Dutch Mot Inf Daimler Scout Car
Dutch Mot Inf Bren Gun Carrier
Dutch Mot Inf PIAT Carriers
US Para Company HQ
US Para Platoon HQ
US Para Rifle Team
US Para Hv Rifle Team
US Para BAR Rifle Team
US Para Gun Team
US Para BAR Gun Team
US Para Scout Team
US Para Sniper
US Para AT Team
US Para LMG Team
US Para Lt Mortar Team
US Para Md Mortar Team
US Glider Inf Company HQ
US Glider Inf Platoon HQ
US Glider Inf Rifle Team
US Glider Inf Hv Rifle Team
US Glider Inf Gun Team
US Glider Inf Scout Team
US Glider Inf Sniper
US Glider Inf AT Team
US Glider Inf LMG Team
US Glider Inf MMG Team
US Glider Inf Lt Mortar Team
US Glider Inf Md Mortar Team
US Airborne MMG Team
US Airborne Lt AA Gun
US Airborne Lt AT Gun
US Airborne Lt Artillery Gun
US Airborne Engineer Squad
Some may think this excessive, but one thing that irks me about generalised team identifiers is that you loose the sense of exactly which unit type you're fielding into battle. So, all of our teams quite clearly denote which arm of the armed forces they fall under (thought these names may have to be abbreviated slightly in the final copy) and the Axis forces will do the same. Plus, we get to have a pretty accurate and broad list of units, which is just fantastic.
I can't wait until we've got the final German list done. It's going to be MASSIVE.
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Great! amazing stuff...
You know, I'm just a normal guy like everyone else. Why, my friends say, "Andreus you're just so cool because you're normal just like everyone else." Yep, normal that's me. - Fallout 2
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Just a note on the German BO's; -There will be more of them, those listed are those mentioned in my research. If you want a feeling of them, add those you encounter in 'vanilla' LSA as well...
"When the tough gets going, I run to live to run another day..."
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Hmmm...I wonder if it is possibly to add ALL of those BGs to LSA?
Also it looks very tempting to steal all those squads as well, but can I even put that much troops in LSA?
Hmmm...I wonder if it is possibly to add ALL of those BGs to LSA?
Also it looks very tempting to steal all those squads as well, but can I even put that much troops in LSA?
Byt the way, nice job Woulf
:D This mod is for LSA. It started as a mod for TLD, which is why this thread is in here, but LSA came out and we shifted across.
You can have 64 mobile and 64 static BGs (1 static per map), up to 64 teams per BG (though you really don't want to try and merge BGs at that stage 'cause 64 is the total max), and from my tests it seems that you can have any number of data in most of the other files - Teams, Weapons, Vehicles...
... hmmm, I just realised that one thing could put a spanner in the works: gadget images. I don't know how many teams icons you can jam in there. Might have to double check that and get back to you.
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Ahhhh... I've just realised that you can use the same gadget team icon more than once, so it shouldn't be a limiting factor as such. It just means we have to be smart about icon choice and design.
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Answered over at Matrix Forums
squadleader_id wrote:
A quick check via gadgetmunger...
BG Unit Icons limit is 285.
BGUNIT_000.tga to BGUNIT_284.tga.
Weapons Icon limit is 256
"
squadleader_id, you're awesome!
Cool, that's nice work from S3T; lots of room for piccies. Still, with almost 200 units in the allied list alone... and probably looking at almost twice that in the axis list, what with the rag-tag bundle of German units in OMG... we will still have to be frugal, I think."
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Hmm since you guys are doing such a good job It seems that my pathetic attempt isn't neccensery.
I'll be happy to help out if you guys ned any help
Hey...you should continue with your mod, Karlmortar!
Hoogley and team are working on a total conversion with custom stratmap, other enhancements and goodies.
We need your mod so that we can play with more historical BGs and teams for the stock game from S3T...please continue...
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:29 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
karlmortar - All mods are worthwhile, even Jethro . Keep going, man. Hell, we were doing an OMG mod for TLD, and then LSA came out (too many abbreviations?)! Didn't stop us! Damn the torpedoes!
EDIT: I was inspired to check your mod thread; not only is your mod worthwhile, you're ticking along at an amazing rate! Great work!
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Wow, you guys make me blush
Since you have written such kind things I shall continue!
The reason things are going pretty fast is because I get a lot of help solving troubles from the forums and that I can dedicate about 4-5 hours per day to making this mod ( finished school and is unemployed at the moment).
Woulf, you will love playing with those two! They work perfectly excpet that the drilling's ammo is chopping (switching from AP to He and back again after each salvo) and the Möbelwagen's "turret" (the flak gun) MIGHT have the armor of a Pz IV turret!
Thanks fot the support lads, and I wish you good fortune for your work ahead
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