Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Hoorah! Ok, this is the first draft of the WHOLE Allied teams list, including glider pilots. All 196 glorious entries of it. There will probably be some tidy up and error correction to do, but this is how it stands:
1 UK Para HQ Bren Carrier
2 UK Para Company HQ
3 UK Para Platoon HQ
4 UK Para Rifle Section
5 UK Para Rifle Group
6 UK Para Gun Group
7 UK Para HQ Defense Section
8 UK Para Assault Section
9 UK Para (Recce) Pathfinders
10 UK Para RE Engineer Section
11 UK Para RE Assault Engineers
12 UK Para AT Group
13 UK Para Lt Mortar Group
14 UK Para Md Mortar Group
15 UK Para MMG Group
16 UK Para Intelligence Sniper
17 UK Para Jeep
18 UK Airlndg Company HQ
19 UK Airlndg Platoon HQ
20 UK Airlndg HQ Defence Section
21 UK Airlndg Gun Group
22 UK Airlndg Rifle Group
23 UK Airlndg Rifle Section
24 UK Airlndg RE Assault Engineers
25 UK Airlndg AT Group
26 UK Airlndg Section Snipers
27 UK Airlndg Lt Mortar Group
28 UK Airlndg Md Mortar Group
29 UK Airlndg MMG Group
30 UK Airlndg Lt AT Group
31 UK Airlndg Hv AT Group
32 UK Airborne RE Pioneer Section
33 UK Airborne Recce MMG Jeep
34 UK Airborne Recce HQ Jeep
35 UK Airborne AA Section
36 UK Airborne Hv Mortar Section
37 UK Glider Pilot Squadron HQ
38 UK Glider Pilot Flight HQ
39 UK Glider Pilot Rifle Section
40 UK Glider Pilot Rifle Group
41 UK Glider Pilot Gun Group
42 UK Glider Pilot AT Group
43 UK Glider Pilot Lt Mortar Group
44 UK Armd Cav Staghound HQ
45 UK Armd Cav Staghound
46 UK Armd Cav Daimler Scout Car
47 UK Armd Cav Daimler Armd Car
48 UK Armd Cav AEC Armd Car
49 UK Armd Cav Humber Scout Car
50 UK Armd Cav Half-track
51 UK Armd Cav Platoon HQ
52 UK Armd Cav Recce Section
53 UK Armd Cav AT Group
54 UK Armd Cav Gun Group
55 UK Armd Sherman HQ Tank
56 UK Armd Cromwell HQ Tank
57 UK Armd Stuart HQ Tank
58 UK Armd Daimler HQ Scout Car
59 UK Armd Humber HQ Scout Car
60 UK Armd Daimler Scout Car
61 UK Armd Humber Scout Car
62 UK Armd Stuart Light Tank
63 UK Armd Sherman Tank
64 UK Armd Sherman Firefly Tank
65 UK Armd Cromwell Tank
66 UK Armd Cromwell CS Tank
67 UK Armd Challenger Tank
68 UK Armd Achilles SP AT Gun
69 UK Armd Sexton SP Artillery
70 UK Recce Daimler HQ
71 UK Recce Humber LRC HQ
72 UK Recce Bren Carrier HQ
73 UK Recce Daimler Armd Car
74 UK Recce Humber Armd Car
75 UK Recce Humber LRC
76 UK Recce Bren Gun Carrier
77 UK Recce PIAT Carrier
78 UK Recce Mortar
79 UK Recce AT Gun
80 UK Recce Assault Section
81 UK Recce Halftrack
82 UK Mot Inf HQ Half-track
83 UK Mot Inf HQ Bren Carrier
84 UK Mot Inf Company HQ
85 UK Mot Inf Platoon HQ
86 UK Mot Inf Infantry Section
87 UK Mot Inf AT Group
88 UK Mot Inf Lt Mortar Group
89 UK Mot Inf Md Mortar Group
90 UK Mot Inf Daimler Scout Car
91 UK Mot Inf White Scout Car
92 UK Mot Inf Lt AT Gun
93 UK Mot Inf Bren Gun Carrier
94 UK Mot Inf Vickers Carrier
95 UK Mot Inf PIAT Carrier
96 UK Mot Inf Recce Half Section
97 UK Mot Inf Recce Section
98 UK Mot Inf MMG Group
99 UK Mot Inf Md Mortar Group
100 UK Mot Inf Hv Mortar Group
101 UK Mot Inf 40mm AA Truck
102 UK Mot Inf Hv AT Gun
103 UK Mot Inf RE Engineer Section
104 UK Mot Inf RE Div Engineers
105 UK Mot Inf RE Half-track
106 UK Mot Inf RE Humber Scout Car
107 UK Inf HQ Bren Gun Carrier
108 UK Inf Company HQ
109 UK Inf Platoon HQ
110 UK Inf Bren Gun Carrier
111 UK Inf Wasp Carrier
112 UK Inf Rifle Group
113 UK Inf Hv Rifle Group
114 UK Inf RE Assault Section
115 UK Inf Gun Group
116 UK Inf Sniper
117 UK Inf AT Group
118 UK Inf Lt Mortar Group
119 UK Inf Md Mortar Group
120 UK Inf 40mm AA Truck
121 UK Inf Half-track
122 UK Inf Humber LRC
123 UK Inf Recce Bren Carrier
124 UK Inf Recce Assault Section
125 UK Inf Recce Group
126 UK Inf RE Pioneer Section
127 UK Inf MMG Group
128 UK Inf Hv Mortar Group
129 UK Inf 40mm AA Gun
130 UK Inf Lt AT Gun
131 UK Inf Hv AT Gun
132 UK Inf Achilles SP AT Gun
133 UK Inf Humber Scout Car
134 UK Inf Daimler Armoured Car
135 UK Inf Humber Armoured Car
136 Polish Para Company HQ
137 Polish Para Platoon HQ
138 Polish Para Rifle Section
139 Polish Para Rifle Group
140 Polish Para Gun Group
141 Polish Para HQ Defense Section
142 Polish Para Assault Section
143 Polish Para Engineer Section
144 Polish Para Assault Engineers
145 Polish Para AT Group
146 Polish Para Lt Mortar Group
147 Polish Para Md Mortar Group
148 Polish Para MMG Group
149 Polish Para Sniper
150 Dutch Mot Inf Command HQ
151 Dutch Mot Inf HQ Bren Gun Carrier
152 Dutch Mot Inf Company HQ
153 Dutch Mot Inf Platoon HQ
154 Dutch Mot Inf HQ Defence Section
155 Dutch Mot Inf Rifle Section
156 Dutch Mot Inf Lt Mortar Group
157 Dutch Mot Inf AT Group
158 Dutch Mot Inf MMG Group
159 Dutch Mot Inf Md Mortar
160 Dutch Mot Inf Lt AT Gun
161 Dutch Mot Inf Recce HQ Carrier
162 Dutch Mot Inf Recce Company HQ
163 Dutch Mot Inf Recce Rifle Group
164 Dutch Mot Inf Daimler Scout Car
165 Dutch Mot Inf Bren Gun Carrier
166 Dutch Mot Inf PIAT Carriers
167 US Para Company HQ
168 US Para Platoon HQ
169 US Para Rifle Team
170 US Para Hv Rifle Team
171 US Para BAR Rifle Team
172 US Para Gun Team
173 US Para BAR Gun Team
174 US Para Scout Team
175 US Para Sniper
176 US Para AT Team
177 US Para LMG Team
178 US Para Lt Mortar Team
179 US Para Md Mortar Team
180 US Glider Inf Company HQ
181 US Glider Inf Platoon HQ
182 US Glider Inf Rifle Team
183 US Glider Inf Hv Rifle Team
184 US Glider Inf Gun Team
185 US Glider Inf Scout Team
186 US Glider Inf Sniper
187 US Glider Inf AT Team
188 US Glider Inf LMG Team
189 US Glider Inf MMG Team
190 US Glider Inf Lt Mortar Team
191 US Glider Inf Md Mortar Team
192 US Airborne MMG Team
193 US Airborne Lt AA Gun
194 US Airborne Lt AT Gun
195 US Airborne Lt Artillery Gun
196 US Airborne Engineer Squad
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:22 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
I've recently blown the dust off of my copy of LSA and given a whirl. As enjoyable as it is the biggest flaws I've spotted so far are the ludicrously powerful and accurate mortars and the extremely sensitive ATGs (a single mortar round will blow the damn things up). Are you guys intending to tamper with the weapons data at all? Something akin to TRSM perhaps? Please?...
I've recently blown the dust off of my copy of LSA and given a whirl. As enjoyable as it is the biggest flaws I've spotted so far are the ludicrously powerful and accurate mortars and the extremely sensitive ATGs (a single mortar round will blow the damn things up). Are you guys intending to tamper with the weapons data at all? Something akin to TRSM perhaps? Please?...
Absolutely. This will be a first for me, so I'm not even sure what is adjustable at this stage, but I intend to play with as much data as possible.
EDIT: I've delved into the data files before, but I've never actually compiled/modified the list before.
It will just come down to: tweak, test, tweak, test, etc, until the right balance is achieved.
Realism is good; playability is better.
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 3:25 am Post subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod for tLD
Small adjustment to the allied list; I forgot to include veteran and green infantry for the infantry brigades. So, finals list is now 200 even, with the following additions/adjustments:
UK Inf Rifle Group
UK Inf Veteran Rifle Group
UK Inf Green Rifle Group
UK Inf Rifle Section (replaces UK Inf Hv Rifle Group)
UK Inf Veteran Rifle Section
UK Inf Green Rifle Section
These will be divided up something like 50%, 25%, 25% in each infantry BG, though I will try to check my research on BG status going into OMG to see if I can more closely represent historical numbers.
The idea originally suggested by ronson is that the general infantry, having much less training than most other branches of the armed forces, will be more affected by combat experience. The other branches, being much more effectively trained, will not have as wide a fluctuating level of ability.
Now, I know this isn't precisely correct representatiuon, but for game-play purposes it works well enough.
Also, against ronson's advice, I'm going to try out infantry sections as a full compliment of 10 soldiers to see how it plays. Consensus is that the engine doesn't cope well with that number of men in a team, but we'll try it out and see what they do.
"I have come here to kick ass and chew bubblegum... and I'm all out of bubblegum." - They Live
Also, against ronson's advice, I'm going to try out infantry sections as a full compliment of 10 soldiers to see how it plays. Consensus is that the engine doesn't cope well with that number of men in a team, but we'll try it out and see what they do.
10 soldier teams work well to boost the soldier numbers for the AI side...for vetmods.
For gameplay...I agree with Ronson...the engine doesn't handle 10 men well. You will also have a problem with the graphics/interface for displaying 10 soldier heads.
And more importantly...the Soldier Screen only displays 7 soldier stats...so you can't keep stat track of the 3 additional soldiers.
For CC...IMO splitting the full infantry sections into 2-3 smaller units/squads (Rifle Squad, LMG Squad, Recon Squad etc) works best.
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