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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
votes: 16


PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:36 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

I have always wondered about that?

Up to now, I thought you had to purchase a liscense to use the software. Never mind how the software came into your posession.

Stealing a liscence to use software, would be trickier than you suggest, perhpas from a legal perspective.  Arrow

Perhaps the physical media, like the CD itself, would be considered property, and therefore could be stolen in the classic sense.  Question

But the software can be copied from the media, and the media returned to its owner, if it is really property per se.  Idea

So, maybe, he is just using CC5 without obtaining a license.  Idea

Or maybe he has a valid license.  Question  Or maybe he has copied something he was not supposed to copy. But Stealing, hmm ...  Question

Just thought I would mention that, since you did not seem to ask him first.  Wink
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

read the EULA
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matthewhalos

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

the "End User LICENSE Agreement"........

well...this is the most important part of a software when buying it.....

but i think it is not important anymore nowadays because with all of the rampant pirated copies...it is useless

darn stupid illicit traders.....
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AT_Stalky

Rep: 27.4
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Tejszd wrote (View Post):
CC5 is not free... You are a thief... Atomic went out business because CC fans like you.... I love the game so I much I stole it.... Shocked


Actually, Schrecken is the Close Combat Consumer relation person for Matrix.
As such, we must take him seriously.

Rolling Eyes


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And CC5 can be found for free on the internet


In reply to that the official Matrix person has stated:
schrecken wrote (View Post):

And that is what I'd say it's worth, so i agree with you on that.


So, taking Schrecken seriously as the Matrix official, this suggest that in leagal terms its not theft to download CC5. As its not theft to take something that is worthless: ie, have no value.

TJ, doesn’t this suggest that you should apologize to LostTemple for calling him a thief?  
Or does it suggest that Schrecken makes comments that have implications that he do not fully understand.
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US_Brake

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votes: 22


PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

At this point in the thread it might be appropriate to learn how to make a French Whore.


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Close Combat's most infamous SOB
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Sapa

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Of all the pests I’ve written about on "How to Get Rid of Things", none is more ubiquitous than the cockroach. Cockroaches have been with us since the dawn of humanity--the pesky roommates we couldn’t get rid of no matter how hard we tried. And we’ve been trying. Getting rid of cockroaches is no easy thing. There’s a reason scientists say one of the only creatures left after a holocaust will most likely be the cockroach.....
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Quote:
as the Matrix official


You keep returning to this... I dont know why.

i have nothing to doi mith Matrix so your posts are completely ridiculous and superfluous as where your posts on map coding, they make interesting reading but are meaningless.
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AT_Stalky

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

schrecken wrote (View Post):
You keep returning to this... I dont know why. i have nothing to doi mith Matrix so your posts are completely ridiculous and superfluous as where your posts on map coding, they make interesting reading but are meaningless.


Indeed,



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matthewhalos

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

ooohhhh.....OUCH!!!!
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Stwa

Rep: 308.9
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC LIMITED WARRANTY

MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC MAKES NO WARRANTIES, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WITH RESPECT TO THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM RECORDED ON CD OR DISKETTE OR THE GAME DESCRIBED IN THIS RULE BOOK, THEIR QUALITY, PERFORMANCE, MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE PROGRAM AND THE GAME ARE SOLD "AS IS". THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THEIR QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE IS WITH THE BUYER. IN NO EVENT WILL MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC BE LIABLE FOR DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES RESULTING FROM ANY DEFECT IN THE PROGRAM OR GAME, OR FOR LOST DATA RESULTING IN ANY WAY FROM USE OF THE PROGRAM OR GAME, IN ALL CASES EVEN IF MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES (SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR LIMITATION OF IMPLIED WARRANTIES OR LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, SO THE ABOVE LIMITATION OR EXCLUSION MAY NOT APPLY TO YOU).


MATRIX PUBLISHING, LLC LICENSE AGREEMENT

The enclosed software program and this manual are copyrighted.  All rights are reserved.  The original purchaser may print or have a print/copy shop make a printout and/or copy of the manual.  Matrix Publishing, LLC grants the original purchaser of this software package the right to use one copy of the software program. You may not rent or lease it, disassemble, decompile, reverse engineer, or modify the software in any way.  All editors may be used to create scenarios that may be freely distributed.  All scenario authors hold the ultimate rights to their designed scenarios and Matrix Publishing, LLC makes no claims thereof.  You may not copy or distribute copies in any media form. Any persons doing so shall be guilty of copyright violation and subject to the appropriate civil or criminal action at the discretion of the copyright holder.


© 2007 Matrix Publishing, LLC   All Rights Reserved. Matrix Publishing, LLC and the Matrix Publishing, LLC logo are trademarks of Matrix Publishing, LLC. All other trademarks and trade names are the properties of their respective owners and Matrix Publishing, LLC make no claim thereto.



USE OF THIS PRODUCT IS SUBJECT TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE
LICENSE AGREEMENT AND LIMITED WARRANTY


So, what you can conclude from this.  Question

If you mod the software or distribute mods or the original software for any purpose, even if you are distributing the software back to Schrecken, or Matrix themselves, or any of their agents, like TJ, then you are breaking the law.

Note: Definition supplied for Schrecken
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Funny, they never asked me if they could write that.
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 4:24 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Why are you quoting the matrixgames EULA when talk was about CC5...?


You may as well quote the World of Warcraft EULA for all it's worth.
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

SINGLE-USER PRODUCTS

THIS IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU (EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN ENTITY) AND MATTEL, INC., AND ITS SUBSIDIARIES AND AFFILIATES ("MATTEL").  THIS AGREEMENT IS GOVERNED BY THE INTERNAL SUBSTANTIVE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA (AND NOT BY THE 1980 UNITED NATIONS CONVENTION ON CONTRACTS FOR THE INTERNATIONAL SALE OF GOODS, AS AMENDED). BY INSTALLING OR USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT.  IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, REMOVE THE PRODUCT FROM YOUR HARD DRIVE AND PERMANENTLY ERASE ALL COPIES OF THE PRODUCT. IF YOU ARE THE ORIGINAL INSTALLER OF THE SOFTWARE YOU MAY PROMPTLY RETURN THE SOFTWARE (INCLUDING PRINTED MATERIALS) WITH PROOF OF PURCHASE TO THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS PURCHASED FOR A FULL REFUND OF THE AMOUNT PAID.

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GRANT OF LICENSE.  This License Agreement permits you to use one copy of Mattel software (the "Software"), which may include electronic documentation, on a single computer/workstation. The Software is "in use" on a computer when it is loaded into the temporary memory (i.e., RAM or Cache) or installed into permanent memory (e.g., hard disk, CD-ROM drive, or other storage device) of that computer. This License does not constitute a sale and does not authorize a sale of the Software or anything created thereby. All intellectual property (including copyright, trademark and patent) in the Software, including all animations, audio, images, maps, music, photographs, video, and text incorporated into the Software, are owned by Mattel and its suppliers and licensors, and are protected by United States laws and international treaty provisions.  Mattel and its suppliers and licensors retain all rights not expressly granted. You must treat the Software like any other copyrighted material, except that you may make one copy of the Software solely for backup or archival purposes. You may transfer your rights under this Agreement on a permanent basis provided you transfer the license granted by this Agreement, and the Software and all associated printed materials, and you retain no copies, and the recipient agrees to all of the terms of this Agreement.
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So, what you can conclude from this.    Question

If you mod or publically show (i.e. screen shots) the software or distribute mods or the original software for any purpose, even if you are distributing the software back to Schrecken, or Mattel themselves, or any of their agents, then you are breaking the contract, and your license is invalid, and you are required to stop using the software immediately.

It is not as onerous as the Matrix EULA.
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papa_whisky

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

I am going to report Stwa
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Already done!
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DAK_Legion

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Why matrix it does not distribute demo versions the new CC???

Maybe it would save all bads comments........

No like Demo version.....No Buy Product.


heia Safari!!
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Muhahahahaha   Exclamation

As a general rule I NEVER distribute anything to anyone.  Idea

Well maybe a few data mods here and there  Question

With a untrustworthy creep like Schrecken floating around, you cant take any chances.

And to think this guy was a Matrix Rep at one point. Not anymore  Exclamation   Laughing

Laughing
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Quote:
I NEVER distribute anything


You distribute manny pics.

but you really are a horrible person aren't you?

No wonder your kids hate you.,
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platoon_michael

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

You know schrecken,
I actually fell bad for all the crap you have to take for defending the Co. you no longer work for.

Laughing

But at least you got something out of it.
Those free $50 dollar games you see on your shelf have to make you feel proud of yourself.

Does that feeling last when you see your PC Monitor?
Cause it doesn't lie.
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schrecken

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Warning to New Close Combat Players Reply with quote

Thanks michael.

yeh, i feel good, so that's not a problem.

thge games cost $80 here.

it is just stwa's pathetic posts.

;)
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