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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

As the subject says, Is Libya a war? Or a battle? An uprising, revolution or terrorist campaign. What's the difference anyway?
Your thoughts, as the endgame for Quadaffi approaches...........
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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

It's a 'democratic coup d'etat'.
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0202243

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:57 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
It's a 'democratic coup d'etat'.


In other words... people who supported the system for 30 years and more now want to take the power themselves.
Fighting is fighting, killing is killing and war is war... nevertheless what they promise the people, nothing will change  Confused


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pagskier

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

it's a civil war for sure! Surprised
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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

I wonder how much casualties the rebel forces have taken so far. This thing has gone on for some time now, Gaddafi put up a surprisingly spritited fight with his merc-troops and loyalists.

Edit. Wikipedia refers to the thing as civil war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Libyan_civil_war
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southern_land

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

MajorFrank wrote (View Post):
It's a 'democratic coup d'etat'.


it's a CIA inspired revolt against a kind and benevolent leader    Very Happy
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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

I personally deem it a war when someone asks for a CC mod  Razz
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Blackstump

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

In other words... people who supported the system for 30 years and more now want to take the power themselves.
Fighting is fighting, killing is killing and war is war... nevertheless what they promise the people, nothing will change  Confused[/quote]
spot on.. your dead right.. next in line step up!!


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0202243

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
In other words... people who supported the system for 30 years and more now want to take the power themselves.
Fighting is fighting, killing is killing and war is war... nevertheless what they promise the people, nothing will change  Confused

spot on.. your dead right.. next in line step up!![/quote]

heard on the news today there were some disagreements between the northern & southern located rebels. One of the 2 wants to have the 'Sharia' as a basic for the new system.
what i want to say is they don't yet have the whole cake, but they allready start to fight about the participation of it.
The joy of the common people won't stay for long  Confused


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Therion

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

0202243 wrote (View Post):
Blackstump wrote (View Post):
Quote:
In other words... people who supported the system for 30 years and more now want to take the power themselves.
Fighting is fighting, killing is killing and war is war... nevertheless what they promise the people, nothing will change  Confused

spot on.. your dead right.. next in line step up!!


heard on the news today there were some disagreements between the northern & southern located rebels. One of the 2 wants to have the 'Sharia' as a basic for the new system.
what i want to say is they don't yet have the whole cake, but they allready start to fight about the participation of it.
The joy of the common people won't stay for long  Confused

Why can't they just drop that stupid idea of religious rule? Shit like this is always going to make them divided and weak.


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Blackstump

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

Yes roll the dice, see what you get, couldn't be worse could it..
Then again A. Hitler, J.Stalin, I. Amin, P. Pot.. etc do come to mind.
People of the free democracies should be thankful, and ever wary of their political position.
The abyss is there for everybody to see.


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pvt_Grunt

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

0202243 wrote (View Post):

heard on the news today there were some disagreements between the northern & southern located rebels. One of the 2 wants to have the 'Sharia' as a basic for the new system.
what i want to say is they don't yet have the whole cake, but they allready start to fight about the participation of it.
The joy of the common people won't stay for long  Confused


That is common when a country is made up of different tribes, religions or cultures. When a dictatorship fallls is often when a country breaks up, like Austria- Hungary, Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia. Sometimes it can bring a divided people together like Germany.
I'm not sure about Libya though, what areas are ther anyway - the beach bit and the desert bit?

The world map we have has a lot of made up, post colonial countries that are not natural. If the people agree, like in Sudan it may be the best thing to divide, though I'll bet they both clain the part with the oil!
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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

Saying in the media here that Gaddafi might have access to a so called dirty bomb, that is a nuke device of some type.
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dj

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

The Libya situation is a load of bullcrap.  Several years ago President Bush lifted sanctions and conducted multi-billion $ oil deal for his Big Oil constituents.  Despite the fact Colonel Kadafy is a terrorist responsible for the Lockerbie incident.  2 years ago Conservative American Senators Graham and McCain met with Kadafy in person and praised him as good guy and partner against terrorism.  Wikileaks recently exposed these frauds - with comments how they promised Kadafy free military equipment and C130 aircraft as favor for his "partnership".  Which had not crap about real alliance...it was simply about making $ for the industrial lobbyist donors.  How totally disingenuous of these Senators...whom first praised Kadify as partner on behalf of their Big $ political donors....then AFTER the Libyan rebellion, now all of sudden pretend they do not like Kadafy.

Let's not kid ourselves, it's all about the $.  It's never about "the people" or human rights unless the Corporatists can get $ out of the deal.  British Petreleum and American Oil did huge deals with Kadafy and then he was our friend.  Then the west pretends he is bad guy when Kadafy is politically out of favor.  Not much different than the Iraq situation under Hussein in many respects.


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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

Now they're saying there have been an undisclosed number of SAS soldiers fighting with the rebels for weeks who are now chasing Gaddafi. I wonder if that was according to the original UN mandate... Question
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kweniston

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

DJ is right. Oil $$ are the deciding factor for the West being involved in Libya, while letting the Syrians get slaughtered in the meantime. It's the way the world turns, not much you can do, just be aware of it and not be too self righteous.
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kawasaky

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

The whole situation might as well become a huge embarrassment fot the NATO, because there are a lot of jihadist-salafists on the anti-Gaddafi side, not to mention that this, until recently, loose tribal union called Libya might as well relapse into a tribal anarchy.

But yes, it is a war.
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kawasaky

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

And just 5 days after the previous post:
http://www.debka.com/article/21259/

Or in Ray Charles style - Tell me what d'say?
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MajorFrank

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

Well I think the fact that there have been Al Queda elements among the rebels has been known for some time, I remember hearing about that many weeks, even months ago.
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kawasaky

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War? Reply with quote

yes, but now it is "official"
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