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  Topic: Do you still play CC?

Replies: 13
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:26 pm   Subject: Re: Do you still play CC?
Until I find my CC5 disc (it's still MIA), or a final patch for LsA is released, I'll settle with Tetris or the Sims 3 when I fell the urge for some computer-gaming...
  Topic: Company of Heroes

Replies: 11
Views: 6954

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:31 pm   Subject: Re: Company of Heroes
Been playing CoH "Opposing Fronts" (Market Garden as German or Caen as Tommy) the last week; -can only agree with the previous speakers...
  Topic: Norway Massacre

Replies: 20
Views: 48306

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:29 pm   Subject: Re: Norway Massacre
As I said; -I wasn't sure.

EDIT: Sorry for saying anything, I better leave the forum for the elite...
  Topic: Norway Massacre

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Views: 48306

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:37 am   Subject: Re: Norway Massacre
Well, well, sad thing.

I live in Sweden, but this is just "next-door". He was still shooting when our terrorist-experts sat in national TV and pointed the finger at Islamic fundamentalists: "this dual-attack have the 'trademark' of Al Quaida". But honestly my first thought was that it must be some kind of right-wing fanatic, I mean; why should a Islamic fanatic attack the 'AUF' summer camp? 'AUF' is the youth organisation of the Norwegian social democrat party, and excuse my for being ignorant and narrow minded now; but isn't that the ruling party of Norway?

I'm not sure about the Norwegian laws regarding semi automatic weapons, but I think they are almost the same as ours: totally banned!
Sadly they are fairly easy to get over anyway.  Sad

I think Norway have the same system of Territorial Army as we have, placing SLR's in the homes of thousands of men, and here we have had a 're-organisation' placing the latest Swedish 'AK5' at their houses instead. Of course there's rules and regulations about the storage of these weapons and they are not allowed to keep live ammo for them, but never the less the weapons get stolen from time to time and standard NATO ammo isn't hard to get. It's a fine balance act to keep the safety of the country in comparison to the safety of the citizens...
  Topic: Armadillo

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:02 pm   Subject: Re: Armadillo
Damn good, seen it, loved it!

Even if Armadillo is about Danish soldiers, I think it should be a standing part of the schools here in Sweden to watch it, since our politicians are lying to us without shame; "...we are not in war in Afghanistan, we are engaged in a 'peace-compelling' mission..." -BS!  Shocked
  Topic: Operation Market Garden Mod Started!!!

Replies: 50
Views: 49452

PostForum: CC5 Op Market Garden   Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:19 pm   Subject: Re: Operation Market Garden Mod Started!!!
Sapa wrote (View Post):

This was one of the first movies avaliable as rent videos in Sweden back in the end of the 70ths..ohhh my good i am soo old!  Razz

I remember that time too Sapa, I was merely a wee cub, about 7-8 years old. Me and my big brother used rent war-movies: -A Bridge Too Far and those odd co-productions of Italy, Germany and Yugoslavia that always were about the brave Partisans in Yugoslavia...  Smile
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

Replies: 101
Views: 501873

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:57 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
Three weeks and they have already produced a documentary about it; "The death of Osama Bin Laden"  Shocked
Discovery Channel premièred it this Sunday, I watched it yesterday. Don't know what to think about it, it answered a lot of "how", "why" and "when", but how much is true and how much is propaganda?  Confused

My initial thought when I heard of the death of OBL was that the Delta Force had been busy, and according to this documentary a few of them could have been aboard the Blackhawks. Must have been nerve-wrecking to watch the video-feed of the operation without sound, especially when the chopper went down, and I must admire the SEAL's for their ability to "adjust, improvise and overcome" when this happened!
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

Replies: 101
Views: 501873

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 12:05 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
The big news here about this during the weekend was; "they found porn in the OBL complex..."

*sigh*  Rolling Eyes
  Topic: Tyskt flygvrak i Sverige?

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Views: 6375

PostForum: Skandinaviskt Forum   Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:47 pm   Subject: Tyskt flygvrak i Sverige?
Får väl se vad det här är;

MSN nyheter; Flygvrak hittat i sjö efter 68 år

Verkar ju inte som om någon ur besättningen överlevde.
  Topic: What are you reading?

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:30 pm   Subject: Re: What are you reading?
I was only going to check one thing, but I ended up reading the book: Modern Combat Uniforms by Mark Lloyd.

It's not so 'modern' anymore, but a rather interesting document of the worlds armies in 1988 (damn, I was only 15 when this books was published and I got it.) Easy to read as well, especially if you don't look for specific information: -open a random page, read the text about the unit and look at the drawing on the opposite side with the comments to it. Then open another random page.

I just love books where 50% are pictures!  Wink
  Topic: The Osama posts

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 12:58 pm   Subject: Re: The Osama posts
-Burned any crosses lately Ernie?

All fanatics are dangerous, whether it's Muslims, orthodox Jews, right-wing Christians or Nazis.

If you lost someone 9/11, then you have my condolences, but that don't give you the right to rant and lash out against everyone that don't stand on your side. In a glorious display of racism you write that all the Muslims should be nuked, but when a fellow America said that you were wrong, the all of a sudden you were only joking?!? You told me to "go back to school" since I compared your vision of America with walls (i.e "the Iron Curtain") and camps for dissidents (i.e "the Gulag") with USSR, but then you sarcastically calls other people "professor"...  Rolling Eyes

Time after time you refer to all the billions US has spent "...helping other Nations." -Wake up!
It haven't been for the goodness of their hearts, it's been parts of the fight against the international communism! Apart from the Marshall aid, the majority of those billions have gone to aid right-wing dictatorships in south- and central America, dirty wars in Africa and the Mujahideen in Afghanistan; -the birthplace of al-Qaeda and the Talibans!
Mujahideen - Wikipedia

The French documentary series in three parts about CIA:s Secret War by William Karel (don't know the exact English title of it) shows some rather interesting facts about this; -With both former employees from the White House and CIA, but I guess it's just 'communist propaganda'?  Rolling Eyes

But please, keep up your rant. Soon you're the laughing stock of the entire CCS community. For fuck sake; -Even my 17 year old daughter laughs at you when when I can get her to stop watching 'Top Model season 147' or 'Project Runway' long enough to read your posts. Every time you post your right-wing, racist views, you confirm every prejudice people have about stupid, narrow-minded red-necks!
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 8:35 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
Back on track, in some sense, with two interesting theories that came up during a birthday-party yesterday:

A) What if OBL wasn't planing anything? Maybe he just was a senile old man, a useless galeonsfigure for al-Quaida, just like an ageing Pope? (Oh shit! Now the Catholics will hate me too... Rolling Eyes ) That would explain some parts of what happened: "Jalla, jalla! The American pigs are coming! -Oh shit, where are my guns?!? I'll grab this wife instead!"

B) Maybe he was taken alive and brought away... He might be held in a CIA "safe-house" somewhere for debriefing. That would explain the aversion to show any pictures of his corpse.

Personally I don't believe in the second theory, it just feels like another conspiracy-theory. Maybe there might be a trace of truth in the first one, it fits with some of what we know about what happened that night. Personally I don't think he was totally derailed, but we all knows and hates another sick puppy that made grand, but unrealistic, plans until he shot himself in that bunker.

As I said, it's only theories, but they are maybe worth thinking about?
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:12 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
@dj My bloody country haven't even had a female Prime Minister yet, we are ruled by a gang of fat, white, middle aged, elitist politicians males with just enough females to make it 'PC'; -but I don't claim it's a great country or that I like it, I just live here!  Rolling Eyes

I honestly hope that Obama can change the course of US, for in many parts I think it's a great country that have done a great deal of good things for the world (as well as those things I usually complains about)  I'm damn sure that I would greet people with a "Sieg Heil" or call them "Comrade" if it wasn't for the US, but that doesn't make everything OK. And the Freedom of speech that is a virtue of the free world gives me the right to express almost any opinion... Cool

And if I may quote myself: "My guess..." and "Usama was a sick puppy who got what he deserved, he's been a DMW since 9/11, and I think the SEAL's did a great job during this operation." As you say, I'm just speculating about what happened with a slightly sceptical point of view. I never believe anything "they" tells us, until proven beyond all doubts. I wasn't there, and I'm glad that there is soldiers like the SEAL's and SAS for these actions. They did a great job: -no casualties among them, a minimum of collateral damages, lots of intel and no big FUBAR that I've heard about. A big gratz!!

@Brake Thanks for the info, must admit that I know more about SAS and 2e REP of the French Foreign Legion than I know about SEAL's or even our own Swedish 'Special units'...  Embarassed  
-But is that back-flip for real?!? Never thought any Head of State would do a thing like that...
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

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Views: 501873

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:19 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
Swedish media reports that his daughter claims that he was unarmed and taken alive.
-Don't think she is the most reliable of witness in this case...

Another story is that it was SEAL Team 6 that conducted the raid, "the best of all the SEAL teams" as they says. Aren't every team as good as any, or are there differences in their training?
  Topic: Osama Bin Laden Dead

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:50 pm   Subject: Re: Osama Bin Laden Dead
He was executed, armed or not. Aren't people a little blue-eyed if they believe that "Public Enemy #1" ever would be taken alive?
My guess is that there's been a standing order concerning him for the last ten years; "Eliminate upon encounter!"

And some thoughts on other comments on this thread:  Confused
"...to put the body on display so everyone can see..." "They should have cut his head off and sent it to the Smithsonium!"
-But when the Muslim fanatics kills and mutilates humans (read "white people") and uploads it on the internet you cry in horror and agony...

"...build prisons way up north for Muslims who try to harm us. There they would disappear forever."
-And when Stalin had that sort of camps for people that he claimed they wanted to harm the USSR, he was the Devil? Didn't almost 300.000 Americans died in WW II, fighting against enemies that put people in camps where "...they would disappear forever."?

".....War Crime? You got to be kidding."
-Nothing personal against any Americans here, but almost the entire world knows that the American Government consider themselves above international law...

But don't get me wrong now! -Usama was a sick puppy who got what he deserved, he's been a DMW since 9/11, and I think the SEAL's did a great job during this operation.
  Topic: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing

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PostForum: Close Combat Last Stand Arnhem   Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 12:34 pm   Subject: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing
I think I get the best gaming-experience when I play as the attacker in any CC game, so in LSA it's as the Allies. The AI seems to have problems organising and executing an attack, it tends to be a rather dull game then with a lot of waiting and/or slaughter.

(CC5; Battle of Berlin, with Salhexe vetmod is the exception that confirms this rule; -there you really have to fight for the survival of your troops when the 'Bolshevik Hordes' steam-wheels your lines!)
  Topic: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing

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PostForum: Close Combat Last Stand Arnhem   Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:27 pm   Subject: Re: CC: LSA - is it worth purchasing
LSA with the latest official patch is the only CC I play now after my absence.

The mg's are damn lethal and force you to reconsider your game-style (don't walk in the open, don't depend on hiding in buildings and behind walls; -Fire and movement, or you die!)

With the latest patch AT-guns are supposed to be harder to spot. Don't know for sure, sometimes it feels like that, other times they fire a few shots before the crew get mowed down by the Jerry HT or AC. But on the other hand I played turn after turn without spotting the German Infantry gun on one of my maps.

I can agree about the too accurate mortars, but with lesser accuracy and a longer minimum range I think they will be more realistic. Personally I deploy my 80mm far in the back to play "realistic" and sometimes the scatter drives me mad, but when they hit infantry moving in the open the bodies fly in beautiful arcs!  Cool

Right now I don't feel any need to install any other CC than LSA, there is always room for improvements, but over all I like it.
But that's me, as they say: "One Man's Meat is another man's poison". There will always be those who thinks CC peaked at CC3, CC4 or CC5
  Topic: Greatest Tank Battles and other new WWII TV series

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:55 am   Subject: Re: Greatest Tank Battles and other new WWII TV series
This winter i tried to watch "The Second World War in Colour", but sadly I could only watch about 15 minutes of a few episodes before I got so disappointed that I gave up the whole idea.  Crying or Very sad  

The facts were very briefly, and not always right.
The footage was totally mixed up. Not only between different areas of operation, but also between the years; -Bulge pictures was used in both Normandy and the invasion of France, late production Pz IV with long 75mm guns during operation "Barbarossa" and so on...
And finally: -Much of the footage was colourized, making it useless as references and inspiration for me. ("Wait a minute, I've seen this scene before, in black and white!")

Maybe it's a good overview for common people, but I'm too much of a Geek to enjoy it!  Laughing
  Topic: War Movies

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:33 am   Subject: Re: War Movies
sample wrote (View Post):
speaking about war movies, i found this user question on "downfall/der untergang" imdb discussions board:

"Was It Over When the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor??"

Haven't you heard of the German carrier-fleet?
-Oh wait, was that history or the last time I played Hearts of Iron II?  Razz

Seriously speaking, and a bit of topic; -the level of stupidity regarding history and common knowledge scares me sometimes.
I have two, relatively bright, teenage daughters, but every week I have to play this charade where I ask God what I've done wrong since he punish me with such stupid kids? (top 1 ever; -We live in Sweden and she asks "what was ABBA?")

And it's not only my kids! 26 years ago my history teacher said: "In the beginning of WW I, the German offensive was stopped by the Maginot line and that's why the war bogged down in four years of trench-warfare." (We never really got along after I asked her how they could built it in -16 years...) A few weeks ago my 16-year old came home from school and talked about how horrible it was when "...the English troops liberated Auswitch...", 'cause that's what her history teacher had said! (God damn! Those Tommies advanced far to long to the east!) And since I've brought some knowledge and interest to her, she had questioned her teachers claim and said that it wasn't English uniforms in the documentary they saw; -but he only said, "oh yes, it was English troops. Their uniforms looked like that!"  Rolling Eyes
  Topic: Realistic Soldier Ranks?

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PostForum: Close Combat 5: Invasion Normandy   Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:57 pm   Subject: Re: Realistic Soldier Ranks?
I don't know the exact mechanisms that generates the rank of the leader, but it can get "funny" sometimes. I've just restarted playing  LSA and sometimes I when I change my Platoon Command to a Company Command I get a Sgt leading the Company,while other Plt. Commands have higher ranking officers... I have also noticed that one Command Squad (not always the Company CO.) have their name in bolder text on the overview map, and it's this squad that tells the player when support is available (and when bridges are blown in LSA.)  Cool

There is a simple, but annoying solution to your problem: Keep changing your command squad (with a rifle squad or something...) back and forth until you get the desired rank of your commander. May take a while, but it's my only idea.

And it's nice to hear that someone else is as possessed with crazy ideas as I am while playing.  Razz (I do the same thing with my squadnames and objectives as long as I play vs. the AI, h2h players seems to get a bit restless when I spend time renaming 10-12 squads)
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