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  Topic: Donald Trumph
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:16 pm   Subject: Re: Donald Trumph
I'm not going to go into all of that Sod98, you obviously think the US has been wrong to go to war almost every time but I want to say a few things.

When you have a giant military hammer, many things start looking like military grade nails and they get hammered. While I do not believe the entire Vietnam conspiracy I do think the length of it had something to do with it being a test bed for weapons. South Vietnam unlike South Korea was never going to fight for itself so we never should have been there. The South Koreans will fight, were only there to keep the peace because the Norks know they can't take us under any circumstances.

The Norks,, why the hell haven't they looked to the north and notice how to run a communist country? If I had to live in a communist country it would have to be China, none of the others work economically. Well because the Chinese abandoned communist economics mostly.

I am willing to bet most people do not agree with you that the Soviets, especially under Stalin, were never going to attack thus the US kept a huge military after WWII. We had always drawn down our military in the past to almost nothing after a war which is why WWII lasted so long. If we had kept the military built up after WWI, the Japanese probably never attack and the Germans wouldn't have lasted long. Once you have a nuclear equal that you think may attack well you have to have the soldiers, carriers and all the other stuff that go with it or everything becomes a nuclear problem.

Then you fight proxy wars, maybe you're in it, maybe you fund it but never against each other. Your military becomes a traveling warrior show, only its real. I suppose its lucky for the US military that we have so many willing to go and fight because if you're in the US military you're pretty much guaranteed to at least get close to the shooting.

I think you and I would have both been happier had Rand Paul gotten the nomination for the GOP or the libertarians  I'd also be happier with a full head of hair and neither one is or was going to happen.
  Topic: Donald Trumph
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:52 am   Subject: Re: Donald Trumph
Lets be fair to everyone here. I didn't vote for Trump and I will not defend his idiocy. Ok?

The rest of it is disputable. Not every country is run like we'd want it to be. Hell the US isn't run like I want it to be.

McCain? I will not defend McCain in everything he's done, he's made mistakes, like I basically said earlier. No one is perfect.

Now that I've gone this far into it. The United States has been a greater force for good in this world than any country EVER.

Like I said earlier, we've made mistakes. damn sure in Vietnam and after the 9/11 attacks. Have some of those mistakes been evil?

Yeah, they have been, at times been evil.

The US has never been NAZI Germany. We can't be yet. YET you might say. Yeah yet. Some people don't agree with what we do but that doesn't make it wrong.  I was drunk as hell when I wrote thsi and reserve the right to revise and extend my remarks just like they do in congress or while having congress LOL
  Topic: Donald Trumph
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:48 pm   Subject: Re: Donald Trumph
Lets see. The Soviets, I call them that and since they act like that and are still trying to rebuild the old Soviet empire, so I will continue to.

The only reason they are in Syria is that base, if they had no fear of losing it they wouldn't be there fighting.

International courts LOL. Ask the Chinese how much power they have.

The only way for the Jews to have peace is to not be in the middle east at all, the so called Palestinians don't recognize their right to exist.

Iran has been isolated before and can be again. Without them most of the terrorism in Lebanon and Israel doesn't happen. Iran is in a bind because the US oil boom but still were offering the Soviets economic help to keep them on their side, laughable. The Soviets will see the US and others as a better bet.

You can be in a picture with someone and not know who they really are or what they will become. There be pictures of me with people I wish didn't exist. One of them with a murderer, another with a rapist to name just two pictures and the worst. I didn't know they were going to do that.

How many people has South Korea executed outside of its own borders? For doing nothing?

Iran and other countries reasons for doing the things they do is much different than America's reasons. You may disagree with the reasons, you may even say they are lying.

Has the US screwed up at times? Sure we have. Have things not turned out as planned many times? Yes.

China and the Soviets have been pried apart by the US and allies in the past.

China, lol, we have some of their money and we have many their customers. If you read more about the Chinese outlook/view of the world  from people, including Chinese people who know it you'd know China and the Soviets are not natural buddies or allies. Maybe because they've been around so long, China's is a very long term view to simplify it. Over the long term the Soviets are not a good partner/ally to tie yourself to. That pair is not like the US and Britain or Australia. Then again the one child policy doesn't make them a good risk over the long term either, they are getting old fast. Unlike the US, they don't import new people all the time, many of them young.

You can build all the islands you want to in the South China Sea but you may have to staff those bases with old men and women. Mostly men because Chinese women threw their daughters away.

The Soviets have the same problem because they abort their babies like crazy.

Were going to disagree sod98 on pretty damn much everything. The Ukraine I suppose is one I think you could be right about, I hope not.
  Topic: Donald Trumph
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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:16 pm   Subject: Re: Donald Trumph
I hate that this is my first post here in years and years, since its about politics. I used another name, I think, in the past that I can't remember it or the pass, the email is long gone.

Every BS thing Trump does is a distraction. His taxes, distraction, moronic tweets, distraction. His believers say take him seriously not literally, well I'm sure that was fed to them to say. He will say something crazy soon enough to make people move on from his accusation that Obama had Trump Tower bugged. The United States has put bugs in soup before, they tried using a cat with a mic on it, it got hit by a car, do I think Obama actually had Trump bugged? No if he had the whole story of it would already be out there. I could not vote for Trump or Clinton, I could not vote for people I would not allow near my grandchildren.

Will he end up doing good for the US? Hell I hope so, the US economy went to hell in the last 10 years jobs wise, fewer jobs. This has more to do with what congress has the guts to do. If they actually do free market healthcare, reform taxes and take power away from the agencies to make law on their own, things should go well.

Will he do good for the world at large? I keep reading things from people who know him well but who are not in the administration, they do not get much play in the media. They talk of a kind of deal/partnership with the US and Soviets. They keep their base in Syria, Syria will be a semi whole state, We crush ISIS, Iran will be isolated and not allowed to fund/supply the terrorist in Lebanon and Israel. Turkey, since some of its other earlier moves did not work out will be a part of this and with the rest of the so called moderate Arab states will kind of form an Arab NATO to keep Iran in check so the US doesn't have to. The Crimea will stay Russian, it was for several hundred years until 1955 or so anyway. They will leave the rest of Ukraine alone. This is in a way a reverse of the old Nixon strategy, which warmed relations with China to worry the Soviets. Now we warm to the Soviets to worry China and get them to lean HARD on North Korea. Our Secretary of State warning of a first strike was part of that, China doesn't want a bigger more powerful united Korea. So they have to keep their retarded cousin in check or they will get a big smart little brother on their border.

There are 3 main bad guys in the world, Islamic terrorist, Iran and North Korea, this plan is to do away with those problems.
 
 
 
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