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  Topic: Happy New Year
Blackstump

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:09 am   Subject: Happy New Year
Have a good one everybody. Been AWOL for awhile, good to be back.
  Topic: 25th of April
Blackstump

Replies: 1
Views: 8598

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:52 pm   Subject: 25th of April
May we be worthy of their sacrifice.
Lest we forget.
  Topic: Unknow pic
Blackstump

Replies: 7
Views: 24478

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:25 am   Subject: Re: Unknow pic
Possible a feul/gas conversion system. tho containment tank looks cumbersome?
  Topic: CCS Statistics and Server Updates
Blackstump

Replies: 105
Views: 160855

PostForum: Site Info   Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:26 am   Subject: Re: CCS Statistics and Server Updates
Thanks Mooxe.
Life returns to normal.
Also thanks to the faceless few who contribute their time to this site.
  Topic: TOP SECRET
Blackstump

Replies: 4
Views: 14352

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:22 am   Subject: Re: TOP SECRET
The bloke with the field glasses is watching the square leg umpire (the only Australian on the field).
Which is probably a good idea.
  Topic: TOP SECRET
Blackstump

Replies: 4
Views: 14352

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:16 am   Subject: Re: TOP SECRET
This is actually spring 1941 in Greece, when Gerry were trying to determine how their batters would go against a combined New Zealand First  X1 cricket side (apparently pretty well).
  Topic: I wish ALL a Very Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year 2013
Blackstump

Replies: 19
Views: 13792

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:32 pm   Subject: Re: I wish ALL a Very Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year 2013
Merry Xmas to all. And thanks for your effort!!
  Topic: Map of bombs dropped on London during Blitz
Blackstump

Replies: 3
Views: 6382

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:25 am   Subject: Re: Map of bombs dropped on London during Blitz
My God .... It would be interesting to see other comparisons like Dresden, Pearl Harbour, Hiroshima, Darwin..
  Topic: Most amazing news story From Canada EVER!
Blackstump

Replies: 24
Views: 19394

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 7:14 am   Subject: Re: Most amazing news story From Canada EVER!
Just a little confused here... so if your from Australia and travel to Canada, were ok with anal sex and English???
Never realised  we had that much influence in our brother Commonwealth country... (better watch out for the Kiwi's their tendencies are worse then ours....)
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

Replies: 563
Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:50 am   Subject: Re: Amiable political/religious discussions
Just a few pointers for you AGS,

Quote AGS;
Was it you or Blackstump who said the Europeans should leave because the Koori were here 1st (that statement, in itself, is implicative that the Koori have a "right" to ownership of the land)?

Answer Stumpy;
Well it certainly wasn't me asking anybody to leave AGS. Sounds more like your game...
I only asked, if your ancestors were boat people also ?

Fancy the originals having a "right to ownership" (your words not mine)
Owe that's right, the plants and animals had dominion first...funny that doesn't strike me as very biblical .
Sounds like your a little tightly wound there son.

Quote AGS;
So it was either you, or BS, that started the whole land "rights" issue

Stumpy replies;
Well no, i believe that was you.

AGS Quotes
Oh, here is a conundrum for you.

If, as you say, those, like myself, who are descended from the illegal European invaders should leave and descendants of the original Koori inhabitants can stay in Australia....

What then, of those descended from both?

Stumpy replies;
 
Who said what??
Mate you need some help.


AGS quotes;

What is interestingly pertinent, is that the Koori never made a claim on land rights until well over 150 years after the English invaded.

Why?

Because the Koori never considered land ownership to be an issue.

Stumpy answers
Wow complete ignorance.
More than 2000 Koori/murry dialects, all with strict tribal boundaries, with many wars fought over this land. All dismissed with one idiotic statement.
You surpass yourself.

Quote AGS
Any educated person, with any real knowledge of Koori culture, will know and understand, that, in the Koori's eyes, the Koori, belonged to the land, not the other way around.

Stumpy replies
Think i just disqualified you from educated about the original inhabitants.

So the Koori belongs to "his" land, but the boat people own "the" land, so the boat people now own the Koori... Hmm now i start to see "why" you hate boat people so much AGS, lol, maybe you now see it from my side.
  Topic: CCS Donations No More!
Blackstump

Replies: 17
Views: 35006

PostForum: Site Info   Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:37 am   Subject: Re: CCS Donations No More!
"Euge bone serve et fidelos"
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

Replies: 563
Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:05 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Stalky you really should be Australian, there's still a few of us left (don't tell AGS).
Stwa you funny ! (pot calls kettle black).
AGS you funny too ! (you have and Asian wife and a Koori friend, but your anti Muslim/boatpeople stance doesn't click with your forgiving Christ's believe, what a conundrum).P.S (Your ancestors were boat people too).
David change back before its to late !
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

Replies: 563
Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:54 am   Subject: Re: exposing strawman who prefers ilegals ovr legit asylum s
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
Blackstump wrote (View Post):
Firstly i didn't string a few of your sentences together.

Correct  Smile
You didn't string a few of my sentences together
You took parts from 3 of my sentences and mixed them together to create an entirely new sentence.

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
The gist of what you are saying is you don't wont illegal boat people here in Australia, correct ?

Pretty much  Smile

What i want is genuine assylum seekers coming to Australia, legally, by making their applications from OS, like they are supposed to.

Did you hear about the People Smuggling kingpin, Captain Emud, who got an assylum seeker protection Visa, after captaining an illegal immigrant boat to Australia?

See, this boatpeople immigration system lets crims into our country  Sad

The present situation sucks!

Liers, cheats and frauds are coming in by the boatload atm because the system is failing.

The people smugglers are overloading our immigration department by flooding us with illegals.

They dont have time to process the backlog of 1000s of legal applications from genuine assylum seekers from overseas.

What would you prefer?

No illegal boat people coming, freeing 100s, or 1000s of immigration department people to process the applications of genuine assylum seekers, who apply through the proper way?

or

Do you favour criminals getting rich by sending 100s, 1000s of people, illegally, on unseaworthy boats, many of which sink with all the passengers drowning?  Sad

Another hundred of them drowned yesterday  Sad

If Australia adopted a zero tolerance of illegal boat people, it would save thousands of people from drowning at sea.

Also thousands of legal assylum seekers would get their applications processed  Smile  because our immigration department would not be swamped with illegals.
It would also save hundreds of millions of tax payers money, which could be put to better use.

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
This would imply to somebody as "daft" as i, that you have no Christian love for these boat people, correct ?.

Added a comma to your sentence so that it made sense grammatically  Smile

Correct, a person could make such a daft error.

As a christian, i have a love for all humanity and a strong desire for as many as possible to recieve the gift of eternal life.
This includes illegal boat people, you, AT_Stalky, MF and even people smugglers.

As a Christian, i also have a strong sense of justice.

The present system provides riches for people smugglers, drownings for many of their customers, legal assylum seekers being pushed back down the queue by people who can afford to buy their way into Australia.
Where is the justice in that?

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
Even tho in your words i'm "intellectually challenged" i still seem to be able to understand this, correct?.
Your understanding is improving, but still falling a little short.
Don't realy believe you are intellectually challenged, maybe you just had a "blonde moment".

Please don't start another attack on me about racisim against blondes, i just used a common coloquial expression  Smile (was pure blonde as a child, but i grew out of it  Wink )

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
OK glad we cleared that up.
Yes, i think so now  Smile

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
If i can ask you this, are you Koori by nationality? or where your ancestors illegal immigrants in their eyes?

There was no legal system when my ancestors arrived other than that which was established by the South Australian british settlement (1838 & 1848 my maternal & paternal families arrived).

Of course, you are right, the British invasion of Australia is no better than the European invasion of North America.
As for me, i was born legally here, my family has been here 7 generations.


Blackstump wrote (View Post):
You ask if i admire their total disrespect for Australians and Australia.
I ask you, why would they risk their all to get their kids here if they hate the place ?

Never said they hate the place.
Just to be reciprical, i shall honour your question with as much of an answer as you gave mine

My answer:



Blackstump wrote (View Post):
Wow an illegal stabbed someone and there was a rape.... think that shits been going on in Australia for awhile....
Yes, rapes and stabbing did happen befroe.
You must be right when you assume that guy would have just been stabbed by somebody else if the illegal hadn't been here and somebody else would have raped the girl too, right?
They are not the only 2 victims of illegals.

Just a sample of those who would have been safer had their assailents never got here.


Don't know if these were legal or llegal immigrants, but re some of the islamic immigrants (which the majority are assylums and majority of those are illegals).
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
Muslim man throws acid in face of woman who refused to marry him (a practice in some islamic countries)
Muslim parents beat their teenage daughter to death in front of her siblings, because she was too Australian..
Just 2 examples of violent acts, never seen in Australia, until the islamic invasion.

has "that shits been going on in Australia for awhile...."?

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
No genuine asylum seeker has been disadvantaged by the "illegal boat people" you should check your facts.
You can count on that

My wife is a legal immigrant.
She had to do lots of paperwork.
Pass many tests.
Jump through dozens of hoops.

It is very difficult to get here legally.

Why is it so difficult?

Because of all the liers, cheats and frauds who try to get into our country illegitimately.

This causes the immigration department to toughen the processes.

If it were not for all the  liers, cheats and frauds trying to get into our country illegally, it would be easier for the legitimate immigrants

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
No i have no shares in the "people smuggling rackets" the only share i have is in humanity.
Glad to hear about the no p.s.r. shares  Smile

Sad that your version of humanity is happy about the present situation where illegal boatpeople are drowning in the hundreds, nearly every week, because the people smugglers are maximiseing their prophets by overloading cheap, unseaworthy boats with prospective fish food  Sad


STOP THE BOATS = Stopping the drownings

STOP THE BOATS = Stopping criminals getting rich

STOP THE BOATS = Stopping queue jumpers (giving legals a chance)


CHEERS

AGS

P.S. thats all for today, my wife is calling again


Glad to hear you want to stop the drownings now... i guess sinking the boats wasn't such a good idea?
Also good to hear your OK with Muslims.. no acid throwers or child beaters ,rapists .. we only take the honest ones.. sounds very promising.

Lucky about there being no legal system in South Australian British colony in 1838/1848 when your ancestors arrived. At least none that they recognized anyhow.
Did any one ask the locals what they thought about the British boat people? (was there any checks on their moral perpetuity?)
O that's right "terra nullius"..

You say your wife had to jump through many hoops to become a legal immigrant?
What has that to do with being and asylum seeker?
Show me the proof that Australia's intake of immigrants has change because of refugee's.
Our immigrant intake is set to increase because of a labour shortage caused by the mining boom.
Do you wish to argue this?

BTW thanks for pointing out my grammatical comma error, i suppose now would be a good time to tell you that most of us spell asylum with one "s" and racism with one "i".

You like to preach your version of Christianity on this forum AGS. But i have higher virtues then you.
I don't need your Christian love AGS , i would prefer you practice what your good book teaches you, but without the "but ifs" in between.
Everybody deserves a rice-bowl in this world, not just the ones with the might and power.
To quote, "Let ye without sin, cast the first stone".
Or one of my favorites for those 7th generation White Australians.. "Those that live in glass houses ought not throw stones"
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

Replies: 563
Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:41 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Its amazing how some "atheists" on this site have a more benevolent attitude then the so call Christians. And even our soul Muslim  (that i know of) is more forgiving then our Christian brothers..
Life is full of straw man arguments AGS, you should look deep within yourself and see that beyond your beliefs, we all share the same DNA.
Your views are shrouded by a mist, you think you have lifted a veil, but in fact you are blinkered by your faith.
Sad.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

Replies: 563
Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:05 am   Subject: Re: exposing strawman who prefers ilegals ovr legit asylum s
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):

WOW!

How daft can people be?

 
Blackstump wrote (View Post):
First.. AGS  Your feelings about the "boat people" To Quote "these people sicken you" Because their availability to $5000 US means they aren't genuine refugees.
Do i have to endlessly requote myself because intelectually challenged people cant read straight?

Realy i expected better from you Blackstump, instead i get a philistine strawman argument.
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
None of the illegal immigrant boat people are even genuinley poor by 3rd world standards!


Lets look at the way Blackstump reads

Blackstump took a few words from 3 of my sentences and joined them together to create an entirely new sentence.
Then like a true strawman, Blackstump attacked this new sentence which he had created and berated me for it  Rolling Eyes

OK, lets do a quote of Blackstump using the Blackstump technique...........
Blackstump wrote (View Post):
they illegals,... "i want them kicked out"... it will eventually benefit our country

Shocked  WOW .............. Blackstump, you are such a bigot  Laughing

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
I personally admire their grit...

Do you also admire their total disrespect for Australia and Australians?
They spit on our law, they trample on our soverienty, the show contempt for our borders.
They take advantage of our social welfare system (must admit so do many Aussies, but centrelink is cracking down on them now)

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
are they "illegals" ... yes.
Do i want them kicked out?.. no

So if you had your way, Australia would open the floodgates and let millions of people come here and turn Australia into a 3rd world country?

May as well, we are not even going own much of Australia soon antway  Rolling Eyes

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
I personally believe that somebody who has worked his arse off to make it here will eventually benefit the country...

Telll that to the guy who was stabbed by illegal immigrant last week and the girl raped by another before that.

Try googling the increasing incidents of knife violence in Australia

Then...., oh , he'll never work it out.....

Yes, you are right, they are beneficial to our country....

So you assume that all these people are genuine asylum seekers?

You assume that these people who respectfully broke the law to enter Australia will suddenly have respect for the law once they are given residency?

OK, so you won a gold medal for naivety.

You think they will benfit Australia............?

Maybe some will, while others wil fill our jails, (more burden for the tax payers).

Guess you dont read the papers, watch the news, or go out on the streets at night,....obviously.

Blackstump wrote (View Post):
If they want to work then they are welcome.

And the ones who don't?

Blackstump, do you have any idea how many are cruising along on centrelink?

Illegal immigrant: "I Cant get a job because i cant speak English"

Legal Australian: "Do you want to learn English"

Illegal immigrant: "What"?!  Shocked

As i said:
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
A discerning reader, will easily understand

Unfortunately, Blackstump does not understand Sad

Blackstump how did you so completely missunderstand the point of this sentence.
ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
It sickens me that the system, at this present time, favours criminals and disadvantages genuine assylum seekers.

It appears that you are in favour of allowing illegal immigrants, who have no respect for Australia, to jump the queue ahead of thousands of hardworking genuine assylum seekers, who are stranded, simply because, they either, have good morals/integrity, or are not rich, or both...

Shame on you Blackstump ..  Surprised


Blackstump..., do you have shares in a people-smuggling racket ?

Personally, i would like to see the thousands who are legally/legitimately trying to get assylum in Australia have a chance, but they have no hope, why?

ArmeeGruppeSud wrote (View Post):
the system, at this present time, favours criminals and disadvantages genuine assylum seekers.



Very Happy  CHEERS  Very Happy

Very Happy  AGS  Very Happy



.

Firstly i didn't string a few of your sentences together.
The gist of what you are saying is you don't wont illegal boat people here in Australia, correct ?
This would imply to somebody as "daft" as i that you have no Christian love for these boat people, correct ?
Even tho in your words i'm "intellectually challenged" i still seem to be able to understand this, correct?
OK glad we cleared that up.
If i can ask you this, are you Koori by nationality? or where your ancestors illegal immigrants in their eyes?
You ask if i admire their total disrespect for Australians and Australia.
I ask you, why would they risk their all to get their kids here if they hate the place ?
They take advantage of our welfare system ?
So do many Australians, lets include our tax free churches.
I've seen a lot of immigrants, the majority are all hard working.

You ask if i had my way, i could turn Australia into a third world country?
Well without checking we have 22 million people in this country, and your talking about 10 to 15 thousand illegal boat people.
Don't know if you ever get out much AGS but Australia's a big place. I reckon you could stick another 22 million in here and i could drive around a fair bit before i found them...and if you could get 11 million of them to work then the place would look no different...

Wow an illegal stabbed someone and there was a rape.... think that shits been going on in Australia for awhile...

Yep i do read the papers and i do watch TV and Ive worked all over Australia for more then 30 years
I'm sure i have a pretty good cross reference of the real Australian, Ive worked with thousands of them.

Did i misunderstand your sentence " It sickens me that the system at this present time, favours criminals and disadvantages genuine asylum seekers"
No sure didn't.
No genuine asylum seeker has been disadvantaged by the "illegal boat people" you should check your facts.

No i have no shares in the "people smuggling rackets" the only share i have is in humanity.
P.S Yes i understand, obviously more profoundly then you.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

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Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:34 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Wow.. the last few posts have revealed some interesting beliefs amongst the believers.
First.. AGS  Your feelings about the "boat people" To Quote "these people sicken you" Because their availability to $5000 US means they aren't genuine refugees.
I would have thought your Christian beliefs would prevent your philistine attitude?
I know that if i had the money to move my family to safety at that cost  from Afghanistan to a better life, than i would be prepared to spend my life savings.
I personally admire their grit... are they "illegals" ... yes.
Do i want them kicked out?.. no
I personally believe that somebody who has worked his arse off to make it here will eventually benefit the country... (minus our politicians and do gooders)
If they want to work then they are welcome.
So it would seem that and old atheist bushy has a more Christian outlook then a modern day Baptist... strange furniture there....

Which brings
me to MajourFrank... you posted some leads to David showing your contemporary view of the Australian political scene from bygone eras.. lol... Ive been kicking around Australia for nearly 40 years.. haven't seen more then a dozen skinheads in that time...are white Australians racist... some... will they kill you because of it? hardly, the majority of people i know couldn't give a rats arse.
As long as you do your job and don't think your better then somebody else.. you will do ok in Oz.

David your promulgation from the bible from Romans  about sin is all very well... you may live under grace. BUT you still live under the law....you will do well to remember it.
I hope and can see that you live your life following this wisdom that you have found in a book.
I follow a similar attitude i found by living and learning from my mistakes.
No divine intervention needed.
By your standards i'm a sinner ... by my standards your a wowser.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

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Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:16 pm   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Be careful of your reply David, if you remember the history of your fable that poor bastard had to live in a cave and be mauled by a lion every night until dawn when he was miraculously repaired , only to repeated again every night till the end of time.
Havent met him yet ,but i bet hes over it by now... an all this for following orders... well it dosnt seem to pay to be on the wrong side,, does it ? And i thought your Christ was a forgiving soul...
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

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Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:56 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
davidssfx wrote (View Post):
Blackstump wrote (View Post):
Yes i have to agree with Stalky here and this and many more atrocities committed by Christian men is the reason i turn my back to it.


Hmm,
I'll never use a knife to prepare and eat my food, or use as a tool for work ... because some have used a knife to kill people.

I would think your knife of Christianity is closer to the sword of Damocles than the spear of Longinus,,, which in the long run has caused more damage ?
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

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Views: 257101

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:24 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
Yes i have to agree with Stalky here and this and many more atrocities committed by Christian men is the reason i turn my back to it.
This is why i say my philosophy is better then theirs.
Your religion is tainted by it.
No doubt i will here that this is not Christs teachings as I've heard many a time before, but what i see from your churches is the real blasphemy.
The way they treat those that are not theirs and even how they treat those that are.. i call these the blind. This is the real abomination, it is no better than the nazis or the communists, or dictatorships.
To belong to such a group would make me feel filthy.
Do not get me wrong AGS or David, if Christ had wrote the new testament then we would have a clearer picture of his meaning. But he didn't, others did.
Versions of hearsay are what you base your life's on.
Paul was a Roman turn coat, this is a basis of Roman catholicism?
The church of England was formed by a self serving king?
Other churches have their own basis in lies. do you belong to a lie ?
Sorry AGS but i have studied Christian religion and the whiff of corruption has still not left my nose.
  Topic: Heated political/religious discussions
Blackstump

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PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:20 am   Subject: Re: Heated political/religious discussions
From memory the passage is "go and sin no more". At least in the King James version of the fable.
Of course the " let ye who is without sin cast the first stone" passage would infer that those who would, would have broken the law, as it wasnt Roman law that adultery was punishable by death.
So they would have been charged with murder, much as our laws are now, and thank god for that(excuse the pun).
 
 
 
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