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  Topic: Secret Svce sink Dutch sub to Allow Japs to attack Pearl Hbr
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 381

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:06 am   Subject: Secret Svce sink Dutch sub to Allow Japs to attack Pearl Hbr
A conspiracy theory in a book on the sinking of a Dutch sub on the 7th Dec 1941. The said Sub had radioed that the Japanese fleet was about to deliver a surprise attack on  Hawaii. Churchill and the american president intervened making sure the word did not get out and the crew and sub disappeared..... with the aid of the British secret service...... This revelation caused the Dutch authorities to search for and find the said sub to reveal the truth.......

https://www.tracesofwar.com/articles/2849/Hr-Ms-K-XVII-sunk-by-a-mine-or-an-assault.htm
  Topic: German Enigma machine recovered in the Baltic
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 412

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:21 am   Subject: German Enigma machine recovered in the Baltic
Naval historian Jann Witt from the German Naval Association told DPA that he believes the machine, which has three rotors, was thrown overboard from a German warship in the final days of the war.

https://phys.org/news/2020-12-divers-nazis-enigma-code-machine.html

1941: British destroyers capture a German submarine, U-110, south of Iceland.

https://www.wired.com/2011/05/0509u-110-captured-enigma-machine/

Wiki : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
  Topic: Jap Flag from Operation Jaywick up for grabs
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 487

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:40 am   Subject: Jap Flag from Operation Jaywick up for grabs
In 1943 a group of Australian commandos paddled their canoes by night into Singapore harbour, attached limpet mines and sank or damaged 7 Japanese ships and returned to Oz without incident (nearly). They were taken there and back by a captured Japanese fishing vessel Kofuku Maru... renamed The Krait. The flag flown on this journey is the flag in question....

https://www.watoday.com.au/world/asia/australian-made-flag-a-rare-memento-of-daring-wwii-singapore-raid-20201119-p56fwv.html

Operation Jaywick Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Jaywick

Operation Rimau..... the follow up operation in 1944 ended in tragedy with the commandos being killed in firefights, or captured and beheaded...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimau
  Topic: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused
Bungarra

Replies: 7
Views: 1138

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:18 pm   Subject: Re: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused


Lutzow sunk in the canal... I assume that the larger craters are from tallboys...
  Topic: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused
Bungarra

Replies: 7
Views: 1138

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:49 pm   Subject: Re: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused
Some very interesting information about the "Tallboy" bomb can be found at Wiki....

Design, targets, results, mission losses...

I don't think you would want to be around when one of these baby's went off..

The sinking of the Tirpitz is especially interesting, the amount of direct hits....


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallboy_(bomb)
  Topic: WWII execution site Investigated in Poland
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 657

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:39 pm   Subject: WWII execution site Investigated in Poland
Following the lead of an eye witness the site has been found. An estimated 600 suspected resistance men & women were shot by pistols at close range.

Not very pretty....

https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/bones-and-bullets-unearthed-at-wwii-execution-site-dubbed-death-valley-17031
  Topic: The 10th torpedo boat flotilla Imperial German Navy WW1
Bungarra

Replies: 5
Views: 1108

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:03 am   Subject: Re: The 10th torpedo boat flotilla Imperial German Navy WW1
A review of the book

The Naval War in the Baltic covers the topic of its title from the build-up to war (both politically and in terms of the key navies in the region) to the aftermath. From the invasion of Poland to the German defensive measures around the Danish straits, the diplomatic contortions of Sweden to maintain its independence in the face of being surrounded by Axis-controlled territory, British minelaying, the desperate actions in the Gulf of Finland and then the desperate defence of the Third Reich and Unternehmen Rettung (the evacuation of more than 2 million people by sea in the face of the Soviet advance), the book contains plenty of detail as well as a good overview of the broad flow of events.

At least to this reader, it was clear these events were more important to the overall pattern of the Second World War than most other works would suggest. It was important to Germany to keep the southern Baltic peaceful to support imports from Sweden and the training of its submarine fleet, motivating efforts to block the Soviet Baltic fleet into the Gulf of Finland, and in the later parts of the war to hang onto the northern Estonian coast for as long as possible so the minefields behind this could be maintained.

It is well illustrated, containing a collection of photographs and maps appropriate to the text, as well as notes and a good bibliography to guide further reading. It is also well written, although being a translated work doesn’t flow quite as smoothly as most (but not all) books written directly in English. Similar to many books on naval history, some of the broader strategic comments aren’t as well informed as the books’ focus. This is no reason not to pick it up though. It’s easily recommended for anyone interested in the topic directly (particularly for those limited to English-language works), as well as those interested in the second world war at sea, or the struggle between Germany and the USSR during the period.
  Topic: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused
Bungarra

Replies: 7
Views: 1138

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:00 pm   Subject: Poland, WWII bomb detonates before being defused
You have to admire these guys..... you just never know....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-14/world-war-two-bomb-found-in-poland-explodes-while-defused/12764522
  Topic: World War II-Era Sub Spotted in Southeast Asian Waters
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 728

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:14 am   Subject: World War II-Era Sub Spotted in Southeast Asian Waters
A maybe for USS Grenadier

https://www.archaeology.org/news/9045-200922-submarine-grenadier-shipwreck

Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Grenadier_(SS-210)
  Topic: Shipwreck from 17th Century war found off Denmark
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 397

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:03 pm   Subject: Re: Shipwreck from 17th Century war found off Denmark
Wiki:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torstenson_War
  Topic: Shipwreck from 17th Century war found off Denmark
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 397

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:58 pm   Subject: Shipwreck from 17th Century war found off Denmark
The Delmenhorst - one of the first ships constructed from drawings, was found some 500 feet off the coast of Denmark during offshore construction work. The warship, now almost completely buried in the seabed, was grounded in 1644 during the Battle of Fehmarn, fought between the Danes and a Swedish and Dutch fleet as part of a brief conflict called the Torstenson War. The Danes attempted to protect the Delmenhorst with a cannon in the harbor at Rødbyhavn, but the Swedes set one of their own ships on fire and sailed it into the Delmenhorst, which also caught fire and sank. Sweden replaced Denmark as the leading power in the region after the victory.

http://cphpost.dk/?p=118451

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  Topic: The 10th torpedo boat flotilla Imperial German Navy WW1
Bungarra

Replies: 5
Views: 1108

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:07 pm   Subject: The 10th torpedo boat flotilla Imperial German Navy WW1
The 10th torpedo boat flotilla of the Imperial German Navy (German: Kaiserliche Marine) was detailed to conduct a bombardment raid of Baltic Port (present-day Paldiski, Estonia) during November 10-11th 1916. The operation is one of the best examples to illustrate the effectiveness of mines and one of the most catastrophic maritime operations that ever took place in the Gulf of Finland. For almost one hundred years these shipwrecks had been forgotten and missing. This summer Badewanne was able to identify first two of the lost destroyers – G90 and S59.

This is a great little site of the Badewanne Diving team. This mob divers have found numerous wrecks in the Baltic whose waters lack the oxygen at depth that aids decay.

Its well worth exploring the list of wrecks they have found on the right hand of the page.

Enjoy...

http://badewanne.fi/?page_id=634
  Topic: Okinawa 75 years ago
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 500

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:07 pm   Subject: Okinawa 75 years ago
Came across this piece about the bloody battle of Okinawa and child soldiers.

Well written by Archaeology Bulgaria on the 75th anniversary of the Battle.

The battle raged between the months of April, May, and June 1945.

Some very interesting information, pics and diagrams of the tunnel system on Mt Suribachi and other landings on the island group.

http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/2020/04/30/75-years-since-the-battle-of-okinawa-history-that-bodes-horror-for-the-future/

I do not think I have posted it before... forgive me if I have.  :wink:


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  Topic: German Cruiser Karlsruhe found off Norway
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 432

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:44 pm   Subject: German Cruiser Karlsruhe found off Norway
Leading ship in the invasion of Norway she was torpedoed on the return journey.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wreckage-of-sunken-wwii-battleship-found-off-norway/ar-BB18OKzg

Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Karlsruhe

Small vid

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/09/08/karlsruhe-shipwreck-nazi-norway-wwii-lon-orig-mrg.cnn
  Topic: Weird Military weapons
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 393

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:40 pm   Subject: Weird Military weapons
Puckle gun?

The military is unique in its quest to kill or maim humans.... here are a few ideas that may or may not work....

As General George Patton said don't die for your country let the other bastard die for his.... (or similar)

https://www.livescience.com/60575-weirdest-military-weapons/3.html
  Topic: Ghost Army in WW2
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 372

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:11 pm   Subject: Ghost Army in WW2
Sun Tzu, a renowned general and philosopher who lived in China during the sixth century B.C., wrote "all warfare is based upon deception"

A U.S. army battalion was raised just to do that....

https://www.livescience.com/wwii-ghost-army.html
  Topic: The battle of Warsaw 1920. 100 years ago
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 471

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:44 pm   Subject: The battle of Warsaw 1920. 100 years ago
Not at all well known and said to have stopped Lenin's dream of bringing Bolshevism to Germany.

https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C83487%2Cbattle-warsaw-saved-europe-bolshevism.html

Here is a long winded Podcast (47 mins)  via YouTube which explains the details including the finale when Stalin who was routed at the time murdered the victors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySzJz0wFN_M
  Topic: The Legacy of the Longest Day
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 529

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:03 am   Subject: The Legacy of the Longest Day
More than 75 years after D-Day, the Allied invasion’s impact on the French landscape is still not fully understood.

An article by archaeology magazine about the disappearing battlefield landscape and the recovery of 2nd Lt. William J. McGowan. Shot down 6th June 1944

https://www.archaeology.org/issues/390-2007/letter-from/8784-normandy-d-day
  Topic: Gen Georg von Sodenstern & a plot to kill Hitler
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 631

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:18 pm   Subject: Gen Georg von Sodenstern & a plot to kill Hitler
An interesting read on a mans journey for the roots of his family's past.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-07/hitler-assassination-plot-in-search-sodenstern-family-history/12501888
  Topic: Wreck of UC47 WW1 being investigated
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 595

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:56 pm   Subject: Wreck of UC47 WW1 being investigated
103 years, a German submarine (UC47) was rammed and then repeatedly depth-charged by a royal navy vessel, Patrol Boat P57.

German intelligence at the time believed her documents were captured by the allies.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/ww1-german-submarine-uc47-navy-flamborough-head-yorkshire-north-sea-archaeology-history-a9655336.html

On the same page is another interesting article on the finding of USS Greyback a US sub sunk in the Sea of Japan...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/uss-grayback-world-war-ii-submarine-japan-pearl-harbour-lost-52-a9198166.html

My brother mentioned to me how disheartened he was about the complacency of kids these day on the world wars, That in 50 years time it will be virtually erased from memory of all but a few..... I hope not but I think he may be right, like so many of our era the war and its terrible cost were an every day fact of life. In 50 years it won't be so.... life rolls on.
 
 
 
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