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  Topic: Beaufort bomber and remains , Underwater N Guinea
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 104

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:39 pm   Subject: Re: Beaufort bomber and remains , Underwater N Guinea
Another unknown plane fuselage near the same site....

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-12/twiggy-forrest-expedition-new-guinea-world-war-two-bombers/103695936
  Topic: Beaufort bomber and remains , Underwater N Guinea
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 104

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 8:56 am   Subject: Beaufort bomber and remains , Underwater N Guinea
Generally when we think about downed aircraft in New Guinea its the jungle that covers the secrets...

But we  (me) most of the air war was over the coastal areas or across the ocean in the many harbours that the islands had.

Rabaul being the staging post for most Naval forays, to NG. This wreck is to the south of the island (NG).


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-10/missing-wwii-bomber-and-crew-found-papua-new-guinea/103691758

Japanese Air War in New Guinea.....

https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/journal/j34/shind

The most famous of the beaufort strikes in the pacific is the Battle of the Bismark sea.... Intercepting Japanese reinforcements to the island.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Bismarck_Sea
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:43 pm   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
With a couple of live wires up my ass I'd tell you what you want to hear also....
  Topic: Marge a P-38 searched for in NG
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 157

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:24 am   Subject: Marge a P-38 searched for in NG
The fella that flew Marge got the Medal of Honor...

The plane crashed in New Guinea while being flown by another pilot...

A search team reckons they can find it.....

Sure..... but goodluck...

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/03/23/museum-historical-group-launch-search-wreckage-of-ace-pilot-richard-bongs-crashed-plane.html

Major Richard J Bong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bong
  Topic: Ship’s Bell Recovered From Torpedoed WWI Destroyer
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 274

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:34 am   Subject: Ship’s Bell Recovered From Torpedoed WWI Destroyer
The bell of the USS Jacob Jones (DD-61), an American destroyer built in New York in 1916 and sunk off the Isles of Scilly during World War I, has been recovered by a salvage unit with the United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defence, Salvage and Marine Operations. The ship was one of six Tucker class destroyers, the first U.S. destroyers to displace more than 1,000 tons. The Jacob Jones was sent to Queenstown, Ireland, to protect the western approaches to the United Kingdom and France from U-boat attacks in May of 1917. The vessel was torpedoed by a U-boat on December 6, 1917, while returning to Queenstown after handing off a convoy near France, and sank in about eight minutes. Rear Admiral Sam Cox of the U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command explained that the bell was recovered due to the risk of looting of the shipwreck site, which was discovered in 2022. “The wreck of the ship is a hallowed war grave and is the last resting places for many of the 64 men who were lost in the sinking,”.

https://news.usni.org/2024/02/12/relic-recovered-from-u-s-destroyer-lost-in-wwi

1000 tons of greyhound when she got going I'd imagine.

"Just before it entered World War I, the US Navy began mass producing destroyers, eventually laying keels for 273 Caldwell-, Wickes- and Clemson-class “flush deckers.” These second-generation ships mounted twelve torpedo tubes, four 4-inch guns, a single 3-inch anti-aircraft gun and some light machine guns on a 1,190-ton, 314-foot hull. Only a few were placed in commission in time before the end of the war, but all were delivered by September 1922. Although they proved reliable in service, they lacked a large cruising radius and were much more numerous than the navy needed in peacetime, so more than half were soon mothballed while development funding was diverted elsewhere.

Destroyer development...

https://destroyerhistory.org/destroyers/introduction/
  Topic: Xmas 1914....
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 283

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:55 am   Subject: Xmas 1914....
Soldats are always the pawns.....

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20231219-the-ww1-christmas-truce-the-war-for-that-moment-came-to-a-standstill

I wish you all well....
  Topic: IJN Akagi, Vids of Midway 80 years on
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 517

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:29 am   Subject: IJN Akagi, Vids of Midway 80 years on
The Ballard expeditions latest video shows the identification of the IJN flagship carrier Akagi.

The Akagi was hit with a 1000 pound bomb which ignited the fuel in the main hanger. The raging fires were unstoppable and she was abandoned.

4 torpedos were fired at her in the morning, each from a different IJN destroyer to stop her falling in to enemy hands.

There are some very good vids of the other carnage that befell the antagonists. Well worth a browse.

https://nautiluslive.org/video/2023/09/17/first-visual-survey-ijn-akagi-chicheng-historic-battle-midway-shipwreck

Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_aircraft_carrier_Akagi
  Topic: B24 Bomber ditched Malta 1943
Bungarra

Replies: 2
Views: 894

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:15 am   Subject: B24 Bomber ditched Malta 1943
Archaeological divers have recovered human remains from the wreck of a U.S. bomber that crashed near the Mediterranean island of Malta in May 1943.

Scientific analysis by the Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) has confirmed the remains are those of U.S. Army Air Forces (USAAF) Sgt. Irving R. Newman, who was  22 years old when the aircraft — a B-24 Liberator based in Libya — suffered engine trouble and was hit by anti-aircraft fire during a bombing raid over the southern tip of Italy.

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/divers-recover-us-airmans-remains-from-wwii-bomber-wreck-near-malta
  Topic: Lidar Radar reveals lost defenses in the Ardennes
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 732

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:33 pm   Subject: Lidar Radar reveals lost defenses in the Ardennes
Being able to see through the trees, Lidar has revealed previously unknown emplacements.

https://phys.org/news/2023-08-drones-reveal-secrets-world-war.html
  Topic: Aussie Soldiers found and exhumed Kakoda
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 663

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:05 am   Subject: Re: Aussie Soldiers found and exhumed Kakoda
Sorry about the title misspelling  kokoda
  Topic: Aussie Soldiers found and exhumed Kakoda
Bungarra

Replies: 1
Views: 663

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:01 am   Subject: Aussie Soldiers found and exhumed Kakoda
65 Australian soldiers were buried in temporary graves in 1942 at Templeton's Crossing, among more than 600 soldiers killed in the Kokoda campaign.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-25/australian-wwii-soldiers-partial-remains-recovered-kokoda-track/102640070

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton%27s_Crossing

Lest we forget
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:05 am   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
This is bigger than Ben Hur
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:59 am   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
Things seem to have certainly turned upside down for the Russian MOD in the last 24 hours...

Seems that Pregosian (fk knows how to spell it) is taking matters into his own hands...

Shoigu definately thinks he should have pushed him out a 6th story window months ago...

Or is it a Pregosian and Putler plan to create scapegoats and pull out of Ukraine with some dignity  because he was given the wrong information...

Interesting times for Russia and its future...... hopefully whatever happens they keep the finger off the red button...
  Topic: HMS Triumph found in the Aegean sank 1942
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 643

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 8:14 am   Subject: HMS Triumph found in the Aegean sank 1942
HMS Triumph

https://nypost.com/2023/06/08/hms-triumph-submarine-that-went-missing-in-world-war-ii-is-found/

Service History...

https://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/3488.html
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:51 am   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
Crikey....   it was that staged a blind man could see it.....

Now where did I put my cane......
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:20 am   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
Tell em he's dreamin
  Topic: WWII Sub USS Albacore found
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 2872

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:36 am   Subject: WWII Sub USS Albacore found
Naval History and Heritage Command has confirmed the identity of a wrecked submarine off the coast of Hokkaido, Japan, as the lost USS Albacore (SS 218).

Lost at sea on Nov. 7, 1944.

https://maritime-executive.com/article/u-s-navy-confirms-location-of-lost-wwii-sub-uss-albacore
  Topic: Charting an undersea battlefield
Bungarra

Replies: 0
Views: 2732

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:09 pm   Subject: Charting an undersea battlefield
Like Lidar from the air, the modern Sonar abilities are able to map the undersea floor in greater detail.

The Irish sea has been scanned and more wrecks found and identified.

Underwater archaeology.....



https://www.archaeology.org/issues/496-2301/digs/11045-digs-irish-sea-shipwrecks
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:36 pm   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
Playing a game of CC and a flail tank came trundling around the corner...

Which got me thinking why are they not still used for mine clearing..

I have seen all these new fan dangled mine clearers but surely the flail would be cheaper in every respect..

Cost and simplicity..... just an observation.
  Topic: War in Ukraine?
Bungarra

Replies: 999
Views: 155144

PostForum: The Mess   Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:57 pm   Subject: Re: War in Ukraine?
I will ask one....

Do you think that the western Allies after investing so much in Ukraine would let Ukraine lose...
 
 
 
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