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I think you are both right about Warsaw Uprising. Russian army was stretched badly and lack of supplies prevents them from taking major actions on Warsaw's front, but this is not the only reason that soviets didn't support rebels. For Stalin it was very convenient that insurgents were fighting with Germans- killing two birds with one stone. Stalin, for most time, forbade american supply planes to land on soviets airfields. Only when uprising was nearly over he allows that. Maybe Americans or Brits could do the same, e.g when suddenly Paris was to be liberated by communists.

I understand your point, but apart from installing goverments US implemented in the West Marshall Plan, Americans were pumping money into western countries (of course mostly for US benefit, obviously). USSR were pumping Marks and Lenin's ideologies into eastern countries so there is the difference. I haven't got friendly altitude towards US politics, just staiting that situation was far worse in the East under Soviets and you can hardly argue about that.

I envy coutries like Switzerland, they manage to be neutral for soooo long. When there was last war in Swiss country? Napoleonic era? Or maybe Spring of Nations period.

"Do you really think for a minute that liberating Soviet Forces ( Polish inclusive ) would for a minute allow a Govt in exile to take over. Also going by what you are saying about Occupation of Poland then I guess Germany is still under Occupation to this day by US forces."

Soviets didn't even think for a second about returning sovereignty to "liberated" nations that's why I'm writing that their so called liberation was a mirage. Poland as member of Warsaw Pact didn't had possibility to make they're own foreign policy, all members- e.g. Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania etc. were client states/satelites of USSR. I don't understand part of Germany's being occupied by US, until 1990 West Germany was heavily under influence of US but now?

Just like today, these former Warsaw Pact countries are members of EU and NATO but not on the same ground as western countries- expansion of NATO and EU to the east was supposed to bring richier, western countries outlet for their products. Hard truth is that countries with weaker economy will always be influenced by countries with strong economy.

"What did the Nazis get out of invading Poland anyway?? There is nothing there. A strategic location maybe? were any ww2 factories setup there for parts or was it just another "lebensraum" such as France."

Hitler wanted to connect western and eastern Prussia, also make Danzig a city within III Reich's borders. Similar requests as for Czechoslovakia in 1938, but Poland refused. Polish army was significantly weaker than German's, not to say about Ribbentrop-Molotov pact (september 1st Germans attack on the west and september 17th Soviets attack on the East).

As for propaganda, some wise man said that you don't have to believe in propaganda to make it work. It will be sufficient if you begin to just doubt and wonder about propaganda's topic. There is brainwashing in the west and in Russia. Some said that NATO should be dispanded after the fall of the Soviet Union, but instead they were pushing to the east until they meet Russian citizens within borders of former soviet republics. It worked in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania but not in Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia.

I agree that nazi war crimes were much more devastating but that doesnt make red army a true liberating force and that was my point. Of course wehrmacht did participate in war crimes but on different scale than SS.

I live approximately 8 km from Auschwitz-Birkenau, in early 1945 Germans were retreating from that area and a bunch of ukrainian volunteers from SS-Galizien decided to burn my grandfather's village and kill all inhabitants. They didn't do it because of the intervention of wehrmacht colonel.

For me it was a difference between SS and Wehrmacht.

Polish partizans were (mostly) members of Armia Krajowa, military structure representing polish goverment on exile- they were rebels against nazis not soviets, but of course for Stalin they pose significant threat for his commies plans. They were trying to re-establish pre war polish goverment but that didn't happen. Ever. Period of nearly 50 years of USSR occupation began.

I don't like it either how values are treated in what's today western civilization. Poles have mostly conservative mentality and I very doubt it that it will change in e.g. a generation. Republic of Poland is inhabited by 95% people of the same religion, ethnicity and language and we would like it to stay that way.

300 christian families are to be brought to Poland as refugees from Syria and this is very controversial topic in my country, not to say about 2000 muslims that we have to accept because UE told us we must do it. We don't have good social policy so Poland is really transit country for muslims, they want to go mostly for Germany, Denmark, Sweden and so on.

As for comparison- I compared soviets to wehrmacht, not to nazi Germany in general. 16 % of Poland's population just perished, mostly because of the nazis.

Kweniston- actually I dont support US and UE point of view about war in Ukraine, for me it is more about conflict of influence between US and Russia so who is right? Nobody. Polish media are brainwashing people with anti russian propaganda and I'm sick of that too, but when I write about soviets killing polish partisans it is not rewriting history- these are facts.

It is the same thing that we have to remind (mainly Americans) that there were no polish deaths camps but Nazi german extermination camps- this example of rewriting history is very dangerous.

In nowadays Poland, soviet soldiers (which were "liberating" Poland) are considered as invaders, even worse than Wehrmacht. At first they were cooperating with polish resistance fighters, then when NKWD came, partisans were executed. My grandma told me about soviet's atrocities- they were raping, drunking and stealing all they can get.

Maybe now you can understand why there are soviet's monuments falling in Poland. Polish soldiers that were representing pre-war goverment were fighting with allies in Africa, Italy, France, Holland, Germany. Polish people's army that fought besides soviets was an invention of Stalin only to bring Poland to communist side. This is really complex, but if you are interested I encourage you to read about it.

BTW Russian goverment refuses to send us back wreckage of presidential Tupolev (catastrophy in 2010) and yet they have impudence about telling us what to do in our own country.

Finally, to be clear I don't want to make some anti russian movement here, I have some friends that are Russians and I like them very much, but ordinary people must be separate from government actions and complex history. As for Islam and gays- 0,1 % of Poland's inhabitants are muslim, gay marriage is not recognized so I honestly dont know what you are saying Stwa.

I'm wondering how exactly difficulty values in registry affects gameplay. At lvl 3 (max) opponents tends to be almost immortal and my soldiers are dying almost constantly when shooting starts.

I'm wondering how exactly difficulty values in registry affects gameplay. At lvl 3 (max) opponents tends to be almost immortal and my soldiers are dying almost constantly when shooting starts.

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Those files are unziped from Karelia 2.2 fin S vetmod 2.0.zip and I'm wondering where I should put them, in system folder under config manager or into games directory ? I tried both but I'm not sure if its properly unziped.

Hi, where I should put those files ? http://scr.hu/57xi/c0l9k
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Stalin was a murderer and bloody tyrant who was responsible for deaths of milions, many of them were citizens of Soviet Union, I am certain that you know that very well so where is the point in beign ironic?

When Hitler was attacking USSR, soviets were prepering for further invasion. Why allies were so yielding about Germany's actions in Monachium Conference (1938) ? Great Britain and France wanting to make hammer from nazi Germany to stop Stalin.

Poland's attack in 1919 and 1920 in Belarus and Ukraine was strategic strike to suprise Soviet's forces, before they can assemble and threaten newly formed polish lands. If we would wait for Soviet attack, they will propably end on Odra river, not Vistula as it was historically. We didn't want to swarm all Europe as Lenin wanted, our goal was to retrieve most lands taken from us by Russian empire and made federation of countries which were once part of Polish-Lithuanian Union (Rzeczpospolita). E.g. Ukraine was supposed to be independent under lidership of ataman Petlura but that didn't work out.

Both sides showed cruelty, this is war. Men from "right sector" batalions believs that Ukrainian Uprising Army (rebels from II WW) were great heroes, but in fact, they were murderers. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia ) I presume that not many amongs you know that part of second world war. I'm not suprised fighters from nationalist batalions are bringing cruelty to people of Donbas.

On the other hand, excavation of mass graves in Sloviansk ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBsEkF_GY0E&index=63&list=PLw613M86o5o5zqF6WJR8zuC7Uwyv76h7R ) and other known deeds are not making any better for separatists.

There is a third group in this confict- Civilians. People who are innocents, don't understand this conflict and are fed up with this whole war, as usual it is convenient for many to ignore civilian's struggle for survival. I feel for them and what is happening is horrible, so much tragic. Nobody deserves such fate.

War, war never changes.

It is wrong to assume that one country is more moral and ethical than other. This is politics, fight for influence and no one is blameless. We all (Americans, Russians, citizens of UE, etc.) should remember that following propaganda lies is very dangerous to us, normal people.

European countries are not united as they should be. Members of Visegrad Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegr%C3%A1d_Group) have different approach towards Russia. Poland is most hostile, wanting for more military presence of NATO's forces in the East. Czech Republic and Slovakia dissagrees and Hungary is most pro-Russian country in Europe (energy issues, gas south pipeline). Germans and French will go for diplomatic solutions to the last minute, because of their business associations with Russia and since these two countries have the most real power in European Union, we are doomed for the time being.

Yes, there are regular military forces of Russian Federation in eastern Ukraine. New offensive towards Mariupol in south is the boldest action of these troops. Russian government is constantly lying about their presence, same old talk. UN will convey and do nothing, because Russians are gonna use their veto.

Check this interesting map

http://liveuamap.com/e/2014/27-august-state-dept-a-russiandirected-counteroffensive-likely?ll=38.907192299999984;-77.03687070000002&zoom=8

I will gladly join, how can I aply?

I'm looking for opponents, wanna challenge in Stalingrad?


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