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PzKpfw IVG

Leader Setz
Gunner Dreier
Loader Busch
Assistant Lobewein

9 tank
24 infantry

Still alive in central sector chasing after the T34s Very Happy

I would like to learn the best panzer ace from German and Russian side within the Stalingrad great campaign mode in H2H or against computer action.

Please write down the tank type, scores of the tank and name of the tank commander, come on. Very Happy

I don't think that the Marders are not potent weapons. With experienced crew and with good ambush conditions, they can be deadly weapons. I have a MarderII within a panzer battlegroup which knocked' out 2 KV1s..

I think small arms fire should not be able to penetrate the front armour of MarderII.

I've been fighting with the KV1 battlegroup for three turns, all the map locations around it belongs to me and finally it's lack of fuel and KV1s can not move now.

My panzer battlegroup is only with 2 MarderIIs, 1 PanzerIIIs, 1 Sdkfz 232 and without any AT gun. I've lost all PzIV's and PzIII's with stable fire actions against KV1's. But it's completely useless.

At the last battle I've finished off 3 KV1's with MarderIIs and PanzerIII by fighting them with a very mobile attack, stop-fire-move action. KV1's can not even aim their gun in time to respond me.

I'm going to finish of that monsters.

On an occasion last night in stadium map, I was leading an assult on a russian stronghold with two groups of panzergrenadiers and a MarderII for heavy fire support on the building. But I was very surprized when the things go wrong...

I've had supressing fire from the building at about 150meters. Instantly repulsed the fire with my one infantry group but I found that all the Marder crew is dead!

Fire was coming from the front and not above, I'm sure that they didn't use rifle bomb or antitank gun or tank rifle, crew died from the regular rifle fire.

With an armour plating front, how did it happen?

Stupid thing is that the direct hit ratio of the PZIVG is far worse than the T34 or PzIIIL.

PZIIIL>T34>PzIVG.

Is there anything in the game data that simulates the aiming capability of the gun systems of these tanks?

One thing is for sure: PzIVG is not a capable tank in this mode even with veteran crew. Such a waste of valuable resources.

About the patch 1.2.

After the installation of the patch, I've had a fight with Russian armour group in south stalingrad dock. I don't know the port name but with couple of ships.

I've had 3 PzIIIJs, 2 PzIVGs, 2 PzIIFs, 1PzIVF.
Russian armour group had 2 T70s, 4 T34s.

At the start, I've positioned my 2 PzIVGs on longe range duel positions and PzIIIJs in ambush positions.

After the initial long range(230-240m) fire duel with PZIVGs and T34s, 2 T70s destroyed, one T34 incapacitated, and a T34 is damaged. My 2 PzIVGs are destroyed.

Seems a better long range AT capacity. It seems panzers need longer ranges to overcome the losses.

Hehe, 20 mm T60 gun is pretty usefull Ithink. I have one captured unit still in operation at the 5th day and tank commander got many decorations including the iron cross..Has three tanks, a field gun and over 30 infantry killings. It's fast, small (hard target) and pretty good gun for short engagements, I wonder if it can see the end of the campaign Question

Dima, do I have to wait for the next patch for the PzIVG L/43 gun correction? Cause I don't know the data editing.

No it was a T60, it ended up my PZIVG from the back. It was 60-70 meters away from Pz and Pz couldn't rotate the gun in time.

How can we correct the PzIVG gun issue?

Maybe the reason is all the adjacent areas are German territory.(As far as I can see)

Actually I copied the data from a file, so editing was not a big problem Laughing

Personally I don't rely on PZIVG's to engage the enemy armour. They may have a better gun in real life but, it does not show itself in gameplay I don't know why? I hope you can find. Maybe an easy data correction can save the situation.

As your examples in most conditions a T-34 knocks out the PzIVG even it takes the first hit. I've never seen an occasion that the PzIVG knocked out a hard target at the first hit, maybe there is an accuracy problem for the gun.

I've lost a PZIVG against a T-60, at a h2h fight. Pz fired maybe 6 times, T-60 fired 3-4 rounds and immobilized my unit. Dissapeared and then moved back of my unit and knock'ed it out by a back shot from 70 meters. Then I could kill the T-60 with a PzIID!!!

This gives germans a big disadvantage and hinters the gameplay so much I think, because limited numbers of German panzer groups are heavily based on PzIVG medium tanks. And they are not reliable units that you can base a strategy on them. They are generally useless against enemy armour.

I can not see so much difference between assulting on a position possibly guarded by enemy tanks with or without PZIVGs. Because they turn to burning wrecks immediately.

My PzBuchse 39 team killed two T34 last night, one shot is 9 meters away, the other is 23 meters away, two of the shots were side shots. Team was ambushed in first floor of a roofles building.

I think this unit is an excellent tank killer when it's used in city at close range.

There is some map which connects to three other maps to east. I don't remember the name, will take a picture shot. In that case, you cannot do anything to cover your back.

They were battle hardened T34 obr.42s...Not the rookie ones, they reacted pretty well but I was luckier and faster.

Point is this. Why the small caliber L60 is better than 75mm long barreled L48?? This is not one occasion, I've been experiencing this all the time.

When your PzIVG fires a AP on a T34, it almost always immobilize or damage it but not kill it. But when an experienced PZIII crew fires on T34 from even distances like 500m, it almost always kills it at the first shot, if not, PzIIIJs fast reloading time is the reason of a death T34.

I have a PzIIIJ with 8 hard target credits, two of them are KV1s. Never a PzIVG could achieve that score.

I've been experiencing that the small caliber 50mm L60 gun of the PzIII is better than the PZIVG's 75mm L48 gun against hard targets like T34 and KV1.

Last night my microcontrolled PzIII knocked out 3 t34s in a raw less than a minute. I came out of the forest and first 2 of the shots are sideshots and the last one is on the front..I achieved this with run-stop-fire. At the edge of the forest I did the first shot, they were unaware of me..first T34 knocked out..All 2 T34s fired at me but I was on the move, they missed. When they were reloading, I stopped and fired, second one blown.Then moved again, the last one turned on me with the hull, fired again and missed, then I stop and fired, it was a direct hit from the front.. 3 shots, 3 success, it was quiet a view.I could never do it with a PzIVG, cause it's slower and somewhat it's aim is worse even with experienced crew.

After the first three days of fight, I kicked off the first line of Russian defence forces.Then I moved my forces forward and when after the execution of movements I've seen that the areas left behind are again Russian!!!Because some Russian movement has been done...

So what will happen afterwards?? Some positions have 2 or 3 possible movements and when you move your force forward, he moves his forces to the place that you left behind. In this manner, you will not be able to get the new forces and replacements..And you are out of ammo and oil..

What should I do for this?


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