Yummydog
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: Does allies destoryer increased thier range of naval strike? |
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i am playing a gjs gc with someone, i play as german, the situation seems not good. because he always supprise me.
1. his naval strike able to reach Pegasus Bridge, even Ranville and B.D. Bouent
2. his reinforcement seems endless, i destoryed more than 200 tanks but he
still got a lot, even 8/3 still have reinforcement on day15(remember i killed 200 tanks and 8/3 is the early bg) .
does anyone can tell me how many tanks should have on ailles side as line setting?
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Dima
Rep: 87.3 votes: 16
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: |
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if his NAVAL reaches PEgasus or Ranvile he cheats.
there is bug in cc5 about NAVALs.
f.e. take BG in Ranville (where NAVAL actually can't reach) and order it to move to Merville(whete NAVAL reachs) but then click on 'cancel move' button. BG will stay in Ranville and get NAVAL.
Same for Pegasus and Benouville . Well actually u can reach 3rd row of maps like that with NAVAL. |
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Yummydog
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks mate,
i asked him why naval strike reach Bouent, he reply me destoryer increased power, haha. Can't believe that he is a CHEATER for what??? Winning
But that is very useful cheat on campaign, it able to stop german counter attack from the bridge. and allies able to push everything west. |
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poli
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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hells bells- MY GC as allies and its day9 and im still fighting on PErriers ridge. As for re-inforcements I Dont know. I keep a sheet with the BG's so i can track em as I play-I will mark Reinforced groups on it- IS there a bug that you can endlessly re-inforce BG's?? |
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Yummydog
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Too Bad, next time host a game in gs need to notes in game title as "GJS, GC, No Cheat"
no idea on gc, but some ops are. i expreienced |
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Pzt_Mac
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'd just tell him that he can't do it anymore - only the beach maps get the Naval- other wise he's cheating. |
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ANZAC_Lord4war
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:32 pm Post subject: mmm |
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why not post his gamespy name here
so others can be aware! |
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Yummydog
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: Re: mmm |
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ANZAC_Lord4war wrote:
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why not post his gamespy name here
so others can be aware!
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Thx for your advise Lord, i posted his name yesterday, howvere, after further considaration, i removed his name yesterday for give him a chance to don't do that again.
but that guy seems not thinking he cheated, and blame me on gs today.
now, i give him a last chance, if he still saying anything "mistake, didn't cheat", i will post the whole story to everyone. |
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ANZAC_Lord4war
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: mmm |
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well without his name being mentioned
the way he say extra destroyer power
sound like he knows.
maybe cheating might be harshword
but he exposed gamebug.
I guess will have to be another one of them things
just have to watch for
make sure u save ur gcs and ops before each movment. |
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mooxe
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: |
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The common standard for GJS games in that Naval can only reach 2 maps inland. This bug is known. |
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Tejszd
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:53 am Post subject: |
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A known bug????
I guess I play the AI too much as this is the first I heard of it. This bug will affect all CC5 based mods....
Dam Atomic, they should have released a proper patch |
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ANZAC_Lord4war
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: mmm |
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same here guess ive been lucky having honourable opponents. |
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Blackstump
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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hmm another cc first for me too ! never knew that !! |
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mooxe
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I know this bug came to light when we had the Mercs vs AA war in 2003. Also in the AT vs AA of 2004 or 2005. Whenever you play a GC make sure you make an agreement with your opponent on how to use Naval.
Tejszd I do not think it affects any other CC5 mods, I havent seen it anywhere else. |
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ZAPPI4
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: |
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Pzt_Mac wrote:
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I'd just tell him that he can't do it anymore - only the beach maps get the Naval- other wise he's cheating.
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not totally true Wruff, on GJS some map on second line can receve naval without any cheating .... All u need is just to place the naval on it and that's it.
To avoid any problm about support use, u may to tell to your opponenet from which area naval can be used ... exclusivly on beach map, or on beach map and second line ...... |
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Dima
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Tejszd I do not think it affects any other CC5 mods, I havent seen it anywhere else.
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it affects all the CC5 mods and reg.
well imo it's nearly impossible to allocate NAVAL on 3rd row or Bayeux or Peg accidentaly. Players do it on purpose.
U can cheat with NAVAL in at least another way as well . |
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ZAPPI4
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Another "kind" of bug about the naval is ...
When u creating a scenarios for a map. A quick battle. U select a inland map .. far away from the beach area... Now play this battle against the pc and select the allies side for yourself .... play it and u will see that u cannot use the naval , of course u cannot cos map is too far from naval support....
But ...
Play the same scenarios but select the German side for yourself ...
Play the map and dont be surprised to see naval launched against you
Yes PC can cheat by this way by allowing naval for him whatever the map is located |
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Dima
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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nice one, Zappi .
When u play GC as host, replace yer CC5.exe(f.e. reg) with CC5.exe(f.e. Meuse) and u'll be able to allocate NAVAL to other maps (Meuse NAVAL area) . |
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Pzt_Kami
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hiya;
Dima wrote:
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well imo it's nearly impossible to allocate NAVAL on 3rd row or Bayeux or Peg accidentaly. Players do it on purpose.
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I dont think so Dima,I experienced this situation once when I was playing against AI.It was hte Original game.I dont know what map it was,But I checked that map later and I see I couldnt use NS on it
I think this game needs another Patch.
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ZAPPI4
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I guess that's the problm ...
the naval bug comes from mod exclusivly.
the answer for that is maybe...
Some map are free to use naval on it ( in GJS for exemple) Cos in fact the strat map was done for GJS from the regular one ....
if you look at the regular strat map, u will see than on north area all the north beach map allow naval on it ... But in GJs this north area beach doesnt exist .. then for reg, all the map located on north who should receve naval is transfered somewhere on GJS outside of where it was for the Reg ... Then one map located on north for Regular moved in GJS for exemple on south in second line of beach ... thats why i think than some map on some mod can receve naval support whatever they are localized and that without "cheating" ...
I dunno if i was enought clear, i should be clear enought if you were listening french |
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