[AT_Stalky]

Hm

Who play Single H2H nowdays? Can we go back to it?

I thought all play has been OP and GC for years now.

I guess play a 5v5 may be cool, if one fined 10 players that is. But single game one map, game over - good by...

mmm To play GC is a story wrighting, sort of, I have hard time imagen leaving that for single games.

Or?

Stalk

PS: if it had OP/GC i would run to buy it... Not for modern war , but for WW2 mods..

[Mistmatz]

[Nomada_Firefox]

[AT_Stalky]

Hi Firefox & Matz

No I can’t see a reason to mod it for my self. As I regard it most as a game and in a game I want the GC, as its sort a “long story wrighting” that offer me a long term thinking and the household of the BGs, in long term. This is what is the most appealing in CC to me together with the good soldier behaviour.

Ripp out the GC and the only thing I have is good soldier behaviour, and at the end of battle nothing left.

This type of one map battle also give a less realistic thinking as a commander. What I mean? Well, one don’t take care of soldiers in same manner when its just a one time one map game, EXIT.
When one play GC one get more attached as its long term, and I do believe that type of thinking also reflect the way a commander in reality thinks, he deal of cause with real life’s, thus think a bit conserving, after the battle he’s accountable for the losses, and must justify em for him self and maybe to his superior.
One game one map doesn’t offer that as there are no long term penalty for future play, its all “go to 10”.

I dont get it, even CC1 had the GC.

Stalk

[Tejszd]

Agreed, there isn’t really a single player “game”, just single player battles. There is no carrying over of anything from one battle to another (ex. no experience, health, medals, kills, etc.). No point in saving anyone in the current battle....

But some really good single battles could be made using our favorite mods; for example l all the GJS beach maps could be combined together and there could be multiple allied players storming the beach against 1 German player. In addition to the numbers the Allied player(s) could also have lots of air and naval support as its not limited to 1 per battle in CCMT like CC3/4/5.

[GS_Schimpf]

Good point there Stalky! But I also would give the idea of multiple CC2 maps in one CCMT map a try. More players means more troops which could need more room to maneuver. Let's see what the community comes up with. I see it just as a different way to play CC. I also like the old style, but I'm not reluctant to give CCMT a try as it is not that expensive (although it is not that feature-rich).
Especially, if not at all, the new H2H capabilities make it interesting for me.

[Mistmatz]

[Tejszd]

Yes, each player gets up to 15 squads/vehicles so that would be 10 * 15 for up to 150 squads/vehicles on a map.

Imagine if each team was 10 men * 150 squads = 1,500 men involved in the battle!

[platoon_michael]

I don't understand the reason behind releasing this game.
I can only assume it was something they could push out the door quick to make a buck.

The whole 5X5 thing is cool but honestly that should have been done with CCV to really mean anything to CC fans.

So we have 2 releases:
COI: A re-release with no GC or Ops.
and now CCMT with no GC or Ops.

And from what I have read here the next runner up is CCLN which will cover a huge time frame of the USMC?

How can you have a decient GC with that?

Looks to me (by the going trend) what we have is a bunch of die hard CCIII fans making there dream come true...............

Not ours.


I havent played online in years but I do know I "TOTALY" enjoyed my H2H games with my friends online.

I couldnt wait to get home to play then Platoon_Knight in our GC
And then the whole team GC's with the AA Clan............
Those were awsome.

It's a shame the people in charge of CC now didnt play any of those,otherwise they would understand.


Edit:
To go with that
I personally wouldnt buy any game in hopes that someone like TT,Atilla,Dom,Manoi would come back and mod it into something thats great to play.

And whos really gonna make those huge maps "painted by hand"
(I love that part in the selling aspect of CCMT)

We can't mention a map making program or that dumb ass Subfkle will have a hissy fit.
Remember boys and girls "He's a mapper" even though we see none of his maps in a worth while mod.

yea i'm angry...........and you will be too when you fork over money for a game only to find a few months down the road you can't find anyone to play against.
And you've waited as long as some of us have to get a new CC.

[Tejszd]

[CSO_Linebacker]

Why so angry PFC?

You and everyone else has known for months what CCMT was and what CCMT was not.

I may be worng here, but doesn't COI have both GC and Ops...not CC4 or CC5 sytle, but the same linear style that CC3 had?

[mooxe]

[Vman]

[platoon_michael]

It's very annoying to have wished and waited for years for either a "patch" for CCV or even better a new CC only to see these types of games being produced.

I think the lack of positive posts proves that too.
Looked at the Matrix forums lately?

Pretty slow for a new release.

[Nomada_Firefox]

It is the first shot from a new vehicle on CCMT, one sherman 76.
[IMG][/IMG]
I wait have a alpha version on few days.

PD: Icon and vehicle graphics will be different on end version.

[ANZAC_Tack]

i'm just about drouling over WWII units on 5 beaches!

now thats FUN!

[Pzt_Kevin_dtn]

If they could somehow edit CCMT to allow battles to carry over from one to the next, then we DO have an Op in hand. With these maps being so large, its basically several maps melded together which is equivalent to a small op.

But again, without the ability to carry a battle on to subsequent turns it doesn't serve much purpose.

From a single player standpoint, the Maps are so large that it is almost impossible to attack into an occupied map and take it without rushing your forces in a risky manner. So you have to have massive superiority in units/arms and/or you have to play a 60 min battle to accomplish it. Also WHERE are the VL's???

Now I do realize that this is called Modern Tactics for a reason and maybe we need to learn to evolve from our WWII way of doing things. So tactics will change to account for new weapons and mobility.

I am trying to keep an open mind about this and find the joys in playing this game BUT I am fairly disappointed that there is no GC/OP or ongoing battle capabity available. Even if we could carry over between battles on the same map, it would run like a small op and that would be ONE small improvement.

Here's hoping that we don' t have to wait another 7 years.

Note - I did buy the game and am enjoying exploring its capabilities.

One question, which version of CC has a bigger fan following? CCIII or CCV? My belief, and I could be wrong, is that CCV is more widely played on both a single and multiplayer fashion. If that's true (which I admittedly don't know for a fact) then why is there a focus on releasing CCIII format based games?

[Nomada_Firefox]

I have seen one thing from CCMT that nobody has told, it is the snow maps, on snow maps infantry and vehicles have winter cammo. I think that it is fantastic.

And about game I do not see it as the new CC that all we wait, it is a CCM with all problems fixed and it can be mod easy, I was trying mod CCM for months and I could not but now.........be prepare because I do not go to fail again.

And yes maps are probably too big to play on one battle but this game was not done thinking on single player games, it is a 5vs5 multiplayer games and you can transport your units on vehicles, it can make the fight faster.

And I have been thinking and probably I will make one new SW mod on it on a future because it is perfect, on one SW mod we do not need a strategic map, campaign or something more, only big maps, now I can hear a Republic LAAT gunship making a pass over the enemy (as the Apache helicopter) or one ATAT transporting assault troops, yes the mod will have Imperial and old Republic units, and separatist droids, I can add them without problems, I have graphics and all prepare to it. But first I will add one WWII mod for all you.

[Pzt_Kevin_dtn]

I realize CCMT was made for multiplayer BUT since we are unable to continue a battle on a subsequent turn, that's a considerable limitation.

[CSO_Linebacker]

I understand about the GC issue...that's why CC2 and CC5 are my favorites. That being said, no GC doesn't really bother me, because I never play more than 1 or 2 battles at a time. It becomes so disjointed, that I don't even feel like I am in a campaign because it takes me a year to complete it. When you only have perhaps an hour at most to battle, like me, the GC becomes less of an issue. But I understand that alot of people out there have a lot more free time than me also.