Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: What is your favorite war character/hero?
So who do you guys really like....it can be any character, good or bad....and he can be from any war in history. It could also be a character from a war movie.
For, i'd probably have to choose Alexander. No one accomplished so much and changed history so decidedly that it just makes him a military genius!
Also the character Jackson from SPR is really cool!
the only man who managed to step into the footsteps of Alexander.
Even if he failed, he was a close combat beserk. Lots of ancient sources can be cited the describe Pyrrhus cutting Roman soldiers in half or beheading them with one single blow (and that with the smal Greek Kopsis sword)
and ye, he brought elephants(panzers of antiquity) to Italy (before Hannibal) he was by far the a genious when it came to combat
To brave men few words are as good as many
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Gotta be Steve McQueen in that classic 'The Great Escape'.......
Kills me every time I see that scene with Hannes Messemer who played von Luger the Kommandant........goes something like this:-
"So you are vun of zee hot shot Amerikan pilots huh Hilts?".........
To which Steve turns over the collar of his grubby T shirt showing his bars and replies:-
"Thats Captain Hilts sir"........with a big grin.
Very stereo 1960's film but has some great moments in it.
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: What is your favorite war character/hero?
LiveFree wrote:
So who do you guys really like....it can be any character, good or bad....and he can be from any war in history. It could also be a character from a war movie.
For, i'd probably have to choose Alexander. No one accomplished so much and changed history so decidedly that it just makes him a military genius!
Also the character Jackson from SPR is really cool!
mine would be Michael Wittman...his scores of 138 tanks is unbelievable...its almost an entire panzer division.but hero no...favorite war character yes.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel was the only person to be awarded the Knight's Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds.
Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions and successfully attacked many tanks, trains, ships, and other ground targets, claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed - including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery guns, a destroyer, two cruisers, a battleship and 9 aircraft which he shot down.
Hans Ulrich Rudel...wth....the guy was a one man army. Really impressive...he should get every medal ever created. Same for Wittman, as I think its equally as hard to destroy tanks if you're in a tank also....more vulnerable I would say.
A while back ago I remembering hearing about this Japanise fighter pilot who reportedly had 70+ kills. I thought that was remarkable.
Hans-Ulrich Rudel was the only person to be awarded the Knight's Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds.
Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions and successfully attacked many tanks, trains, ships, and other ground targets, claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed - including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery guns, a destroyer, two cruisers, a battleship and 9 aircraft which he shot down.
(from WikipediA)
yes i know....but he slept in a warm bed after his missions...but i get your point
Hans Ulrich Rudel...wth....the guy was a one man army. Really impressive...he should get every medal ever created. Same for Wittman, as I think its equally as hard to destroy tanks if you're in a tank also....more vulnerable I would say.
A while back ago I remembering hearing about this Japanise fighter pilot who reportedly had 70+ kills. I thought that was remarkable.
i read in the book "world whitin war " by g.lindermann that an american soldier had killed 500 japanese soldiers during the pacific campaign....talk about nightmares.....and he was a rifleman not a machinegunner...
Hans-Ulrich Rudel was the only person to be awarded the Knight's Cross with Golden Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds.
Rudel flew 2,530 combat missions and successfully attacked many tanks, trains, ships, and other ground targets, claiming a total of 2,000 targets destroyed - including 800 vehicles, 519 tanks, 150 artillery guns, a destroyer, two cruisers, a battleship and 9 aircraft which he shot down.
(from WikipediA)
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PS: How do you single handed take down a battleship!?
I have to say that Hannibal Barca and his handling of the Romans at Cannae puts him above just about any other commander past or present, surrounded a much larger enemy force and annilhated it with a mercenary army
then the Italian "torpedo-rider" 1-2 man topedos sinking and damaging the HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Valiant in Alexandria are way more noteworthy than air-attacks...
forgot their names, but one Italian was a count that was relatied to the Italian king.
I have to say that Hannibal Barca and his handling of the Romans at Cannae puts him above just about any other commander past or present, surrounded a much larger enemy force and annilhated it with a mercenary army
Yes, definately Hannibal Barca is one of the greatest military men of all time. He was a great military commander for various reasons. His army was mostly made up of foreign mercenaries, with just a small core of actual Carthaginians in the ranks. It was more of a United Nations force, made up of men with differing languages, cultures, weapons, combat styles and customs. Carthaginian armies were notorious for suffering mutinies and internal dissent (eg The "Mercenary War" of 240BC), even to the point of slaughtering their Carthaginian generals and officers, if they felt poorly led. But Hannibal commanded his army that he used to take on Rome and invade Italy for 18 years, until he was recalled to Carthage to defend the city against a Roman counter-invasion. In that time, he suffered no mutinies or dissent at all amongst his troops, and he remained undefeated by the Romans. His tactics were later adopted by the Romans themselves and are still militarily valid today. There is a movie currently being made about him due for release in 2009, with "Saving Private Ryan" actor Vin Diesel in the lead role.
As for Hans Rudel, yes he was a great combat pilot. Not only did he achieve all that has already been written here, but he also lost his right leg below the knee in 1945 from AA fire hitting his Stuka, yet was back flying missions in just over a month. But on the downside, post-war, he was involved in the ODESSA organisation and assisted such wondeful people like Josef Mengele from escaping justice.
As far as Aussies who are heroes, I'd list at least two. They are Edward "Teddy" Sheean and Kevin "Dasher" Wheatley for their heroism in standing by their mates. Read the articles to see why:-
As a footnote to what is already in the Sheean article in Wikipedia, I wanted to add this. Sheean was wounded in the initial attack on his ship, but when the Japanese started strafing his shipmates in the water, he ignored his injuries and swam back to his abandoned sinking ship. He continued firing at the Japanese until he was underwater and undoubtedly saved lives. He should have receieved the VC postumously for his actions, but apparently one of the criteria is that potential recepients have to have had their heroism witnessed by an officer (There has to be at least three witnesses). Unfortunately none of HMAS Armidale's officers were amongst the survivors of the attack. So the recommendation in his name was refused, although appeals continue to this day.
Now as far as other Aussie VC winners, I want to also mention George Moor who not only won the VC, but also the MC and bar as well in WW1. But it was the way he won his VC at the young age of 18 that is interesting. Read the article to see why:-
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