Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War?
No no no...virtually ALL armed insurrections have a loose patchquilt of various factions that unite as one due to the necessity of taking-out the command/control of the government. Yes it is true that the Muslim Brotherhood has some limited factions with "terror" agendas to promote fundamentalist Islam. However it is extremely unlikely that the various Arab / Persian rebellions were actually due to these terror-linked interests. For example Syria and Iran already have a radical fundamentalist government in charge with state-sponsored links to terror groups.
Basically the limited factions that did have ties to radical Islam agenda, were simply exploiting the situation to leverage their interests. Precisely as America and the West did exactly the same. On the drop of a dime, we switched sides...dropped support for both Hosni Mubarek and Colonel Kaddiffy like a hot potato. Then all of a sudden we painted a negative portrait of the Libyan and Egyptian dictators to give the illusion we were on the side of Human Rights and the "people".
Let's be honest...the majority of the Islamic world really dislikes the West in general, no matter if they are radical fundamentalists or our "allies". People from Egypt and more recently in Libya have been accusing those dictators for years of being "puppets" of the CIA or the West. We only wanted to be friends with Kaddafy because BP and U.S. Oil stood to profit from the recent Multi-Billion $ trade deals. Egypt actually was a useful partner for peace with Israel and good trading partner. But at the cost of Mubarek's oppressive rule and iron fist of tyranny.
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Is Libya a War?
FYI, at the moment I'm reading about WW2 in North Africa, Vichy France, Italy and Germany against the Brits and Americans. Interesting how that region kind of favours the defender, Gaddafi is 'doing a Rommel'.
The Libya situation is a load of bullcrap. Several years ago President Bush lifted sanctions and conducted multi-billion $ oil deal for his Big Oil constituents. Despite the fact Colonel Kadafy is a terrorist responsible for the Lockerbie incident. 2 years ago Conservative American Senators Graham and McCain met with Kadafy in person and praised him as good guy and partner against terrorism. Wikileaks recently exposed these frauds - with comments how they promised Kadafy free military equipment and C130 aircraft as favor for his "partnership". Which had not crap about real alliance...it was simply about making $ for the industrial lobbyist donors. How totally disingenuous of these Senators...whom first praised Kadify as partner on behalf of their Big $ political donors....then AFTER the Libyan rebellion, now all of sudden pretend they do not like Kadafy.
Let's not kid ourselves, it's all about the $. It's never about "the people" or human rights unless the Corporatists can get $ out of the deal. British Petreleum and American Oil did huge deals with Kadafy and then he was our friend. Then the west pretends he is bad guy when Kadafy is politically out of favor. Not much different than the Iraq situation under Hussein in many respects.
In the end, according to the numbers presented, a total of 13,532 to 17,502 deaths have been reported, of which some have not been independently confirmed, and 4,000 people have been reported as missing.
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