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US_Brake

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

May the best drones win




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Dima

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

US_Brake wrote (View Post):
May the best drones win

pray for it Wink
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Dima

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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

Thing is most of the armies have forgotten how to act against the army and not the insurgents.
Somehow the US drones are just falling aground when anti-drone measures are working in Donbass Wink
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

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Thing is most of the armies have forgotten how to act against the army and not the insurgents.
Somehow the US drones are just falling aground when anti-drone measures are working in Donbass Wink



........and Iran. They are producing US styled drones from captured ones flying over their air space.
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US_Brake

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

Sod you should really consider teaching Political History at Kim Il-sung Military University.

Or better yet, a reality TV show called I am not Russian.




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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

US_Brake wrote (View Post):
Sod you should really consider teaching Political History at Kim Il-sung Military University.

Or better yet, a reality TV show called I am not Russian.


Or maybe I could just be a gullible person who believes all the propaganda put out for the weak and naive. In other words for those who never question but believe the comic book history at present. For some reason you seem to think only one side tells the truth - truth is the first casualty of war. By saying I'm not Russian, I try to easy the paranoia of many others whom this affliction affects that anyone with a different view is a Russian on these issues. Calm down and use facts and not school boy rants might help you. Try not to write through emotion as it clouds your better judgement.


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US_Brake

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

My President said it best in his speech last September. I agree with him and the US policy.

“Russian aggression in Europe recalls the days when large nations trampled small ones in pursuit of territorial ambition" - President Barack Obama

https://youtu.be/xiI6crx4Z9k




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dj

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

Yes how is America always guilty when Russia is the one that seized Crimea and was caught on satellites aiding the pro-Russian factions?  We have done some stupid policies with Imperialist Presidents of our own...but we are the ones seeking Peace.  If Mitt Romney got elected he would have already pushed the Nuke button.  The war hawks are hard-up to start another war but they lost the last 2 elections.  No need to blame America for all the world's problems.  Other nations are accountable.  How many times has Ukraine and Poland been carved up and invaded over the centuries?  That was not America that did that either.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

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Yes how is America always guilty when Russia is the one that seized Crimea and was caught on satellites aiding the pro-Russian factions?  We have done some stupid policies with Imperialist Presidents of our own...but we are the ones seeking Peace.  If Mitt Romney got elected he would have already pushed the Nuke button.  The war hawks are hard-up to start another war but they lost the last 2 elections.  No need to blame America for all the world's problems.  Other nations are accountable.  How many times has Ukraine and Poland been carved up and invaded over the centuries?  That was not America that did that either.


The carving up of Poland etc changed after WW1 when the laws of conquest were changed. It didn't stop the Allies in WW2 redrawing borders post WW2 though.

73 countries attacked since WW2 by the USA says that you are wrong that USA is a country providing peace. The only peace it wants is a piece of other countries assets and resources - oil etc.

Yes Russia is in the East Ukraine but not as Russian Forces. How - like GB was during Vietnam when 2000 soldiers served in Australian and NZ armies. Russia was invited into Afghanistan by the  Sovereign Govt at the time. Russia was asked by Sth Ossetia to help against invading Georgian Armies - Mikheil Saakashvili - now wanted by Interpol over corruption in leading his country to war and misleading by Georgia its self. Russia is no angel but compare this to USA who always plays away from home - 73 countries.

USA is no more seeking peace than than any other Emperialistic countries as Wall St etc were referring to US no more than 2 years ago - Empire USA. USA aided and trained Al Nusra, ISIS and FSA rebels in Jordan, Qatar and Saudi A. Reuters ran an article nearly a year ago before ISIS came to fame in Iraq. It showed pics of US Senator John McCain posing with fighters. GB informed US Govt that Al Nusra were a branch of Al Qeada. ISIS according to the article were trained solely for Syria. Further article in Reuters says ISIS found easier pickings in Iraq. USA number 1 Military weapons supplier for the last 10 years plus. Has installed and backed more dictatorships than the rest of the world since WW2 - even Saddam. USA undermines eco and polit sovereign countries - Venezuela, spies on Allies and citizens, uses drones to kill in sovereign countries - Pakistan, coverups of media and civilian deaths, illegally detains and imprisons, sell to both sides in some conflicits - Sudan good business sense. Tortures, assassinates, illegally bombs - Syria ans illegally invades countries - Iraq plus much more
Check out Youtube video. It is a fore tale of events to come at the time in Kiev and Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM

Ukraine oil 2ic Joe Bidens son. US Ambassador to Ukraine holding tech camps to overthrow Ukraine Govt. Nuland in Kev speaking of a coup. Chevron Oil openly stating a change in Govt would bring US investment dollars. CIA Fish head post coup stating he had lost 20 Greystone ( Blackwater ) Operatives in Kiev. USA still to date denies involvement - yeah right.

Much more to add but Game of Thrones then Total War Attila awaits.
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
If Mitt Romney got elected he would have already pushed the Nuke button.


But Obama got elected and he pushed the GAY button and the ISIS button ... and the NSA button ... and the TSA button ... and the DHS button ... and the fake Sandy Hook button ... etc.


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dj

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 2:58 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

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dj wrote (View Post):
Yes how is America always guilty when Russia is the one that seized Crimea and was caught on satellites aiding the pro-Russian factions?  We have done some stupid policies with Imperialist Presidents of our own...but we are the ones seeking Peace.  If Mitt Romney got elected he would have already pushed the Nuke button.  The war hawks are hard-up to start another war but they lost the last 2 elections.  No need to blame America for all the world's problems.  Other nations are accountable.  How many times has Ukraine and Poland been carved up and invaded over the centuries?  That was not America that did that either.


The carving up of Poland etc changed after WW1 when the laws of conquest were changed. It didn't stop the Allies in WW2 redrawing borders post WW2 though.

73 countries attacked since WW2 by the USA says that you are wrong that USA is a country providing peace. The only peace it wants is a piece of other countries assets and resources - oil etc.

Yes Russia is in the East Ukraine but not as Russian Forces. How - like GB was during Vietnam when 2000 soldiers served in Australian and NZ armies. Russia was invited into Afghanistan by the  Sovereign Govt at the time. Russia was asked by Sth Ossetia to help against invading Georgian Armies - Mikheil Saakashvili - now wanted by Interpol over corruption in leading his country to war and misleading by Georgia its self. Russia is no angel but compare this to USA who always plays away from home - 73 countries.

USA is no more seeking peace than than any other Emperialistic countries as Wall St etc were referring to US no more than 2 years ago - Empire USA. USA aided and trained Al Nusra, ISIS and FSA rebels in Jordan, Qatar and Saudi A. Reuters ran an article nearly a year ago before ISIS came to fame in Iraq. It showed pics of US Senator John McCain posing with fighters. GB informed US Govt that Al Nusra were a branch of Al Qeada. ISIS according to the article were trained solely for Syria. Further article in Reuters says ISIS found easier pickings in Iraq. USA number 1 Military weapons supplier for the last 10 years plus. Has installed and backed more dictatorships than the rest of the world since WW2 - even Saddam. USA undermines eco and polit sovereign countries - Venezuela, spies on Allies and citizens, uses drones to kill in sovereign countries - Pakistan, coverups of media and civilian deaths, illegally detains and imprisons, sell to both sides in some conflicits - Sudan good business sense. Tortures, assassinates, illegally bombs - Syria ans illegally invades countries - Iraq plus much more
Check out Youtube video. It is a fore tale of events to come at the time in Kiev and Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM

Ukraine oil 2ic Joe Bidens son. US Ambassador to Ukraine holding tech camps to overthrow Ukraine Govt. Nuland in Kev speaking of a coup. Chevron Oil openly stating a change in Govt would bring US investment dollars. CIA Fish head post coup stating he had lost 20 Greystone ( Blackwater ) Operatives in Kiev. USA still to date denies involvement - yeah right.

Much more to add but Game of Thrones then Total War Attila awaits.


You are obviously a hater of US no matter what the facts are.  What country has US invaded lately?  If you're talking drone strikes that is not really a valid argument.  Iran is aiding Yemen.  Nobody is complaining about that.

Although I agree about the mishaps with ISIS.  That does appear to be McCain with one of their thugs.  Also today the media (Seymour Hersh) exposed lies about the Bin Laden raid.  Pakistani intelligence had informant whom tipped us off.  They knew he was there since 2006.  The Govt got caught in lies but that is standard in the world of Intel and warfare.  They also lied what happened with his body.  Our govt is seriously confused about how to deal with Islamist factions.  We had no business even considering arming gangster thugs in Syria.  And Iraq was a train wreck.  If Saddam was still in power there would be no ISIS in the first place.  One Trillion $ down the drain for nothing.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

You are obviously a hater of US no matter what the facts are.  What country has US invaded lately?  If you're talking drone strikes that is not really a valid argument.  Iran is aiding Yemen.  Nobody is complaining about that.


I don't hate the USA anymore than I like Russia. But it's about the truth and not fudging things to fool your populous. I like how you push the blame as to how I am a US hater rather than confront the truth - 73 countries attacked. What countries have the US invaded lately - Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan. Remember Al Qeada were based in Afghanistan not running it. Then there is the illegal attacks on Syria, Libya, aiding the Arab Spring etc. Iran is now aiding the rebels in Yemen. But your media purposely and falsely forgot that the Houthis were ridding themselves of a Saudi backed dicitatorship. It's not a sectarian conflict but a largely united one against the Govt. They have been fighting ISIS there before Western interest was aroused. Notice how Saudi Arabia hasn't bombed ISIS in Yemen. It hasn't gone unnoticed by Euro media. Iran to start with wasn't in Yemen but was another smoke screen to justify Saudi aggression to support their puppet Govt in Yemen.

Now the US has the fall out from Investigative Journalist Seymour Hersh's claims of US / Paki lies over Bin Laden incident. Remember Hersh exposed My Lai, Abu Ghab, Noriega etc. So this guy is very good at his job. Your Govt's Foreign Policy is what I don't like, not the US or any US citizen. Paranoia sadly creates this notion that people dislike the US but that is wrong. Maybe with the fallout over this incident, just maybe it will change attitudes at home in the US. It won't change your Govt's as there is too much money to be made from death.


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US_Brake

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

Seymour Hersh is flat wrong about the bin laden mission his story is BS. But his career is on the upswing now. CNN was happy to spin the story as "Obama is a Liar." They got their ratings. This is Republican campaign strategy smoke and mirrors swift-boat style. If it smells like Bush family politricks at work again? It is. Republicans are desperate to regain power but it will be 16-20 years before any Republican will be elected President again. Obama's critics use every foreign policy conspiracy theory they find (or invent) and the US right wing and US critics eat it up.

What has been President Obama's top 5 foreign policy blunders? I don't know of any.

His diplomacy and military leadership has been outstanding. The President communicates US policy effectively and has repeatedly shown wisdom, and restraint while wielding US power to help solve problems in the world in a thoughtful and intelligent way. His success as Commander-in-chief and the success of the CIA and military against al qaeda has been a major achievement that every American and American allie should celebrate.




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sod98

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

What has been President Obama's top 5 foreign policy blunders? I don't know of any.

1. Promise to close down Gitmo concentration camp 6 years ago.
2. Aiding the Arab Spring - Syria, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Iraq and many others.
3. Lying about US backing of Ukraine coup - US Ambassador running " tech camps " prior to coup etc.
4. Aiding and training of Al Nusra - branch of Al Qeada, ISIS and FSA at camps in ME and lying again - Reuters approx 12 mths ago.
5. Orchestrated lies over Assad use of Sarin gas so US can bomb Syria - doing it now anyway - Crime against Humanity. Venezuela and destabilizing their Govt for Oil.


6. The very embarrassing Bin Laden saga. This Investigative Journo is very well known for his accuracy before going public. Good bye many times failed US Foreign Policy.

Burying your head in the sand won't make the problem go away. It will just draw more flies to the sh-t. In fairness to Obama, it doesn't matter Repub or Democrat, Obama, Clinton, Bush or who ever. They are just figure heads as your Foreign policy since WW2 hasn't changed - 73 countries attacked. World opinion is starting to wise up to it also - United Fakes of America.

Obama Administration has charged 8 " Whistleblowers " now. That is worse than all previous US Administrations put together. Emphasising US need to hide it's illegal activities - drone kills, media and civilian death coverups, torture, spying on Allies and citizens, assassinations, invasions and bombings of sovereign countries, install and backing of dictatorships, undermining economically and politically countries, Govt backed espionage upon Foreign commerce, US Military blunders - ( blue on blues, fake operations ), aiding and training terrorist groups and many other such things.

Freedom of speech is nothing. Freedom to ask questions is everything.
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US_Brake

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 6:27 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

BUK Missile System CATCHES FIRE At Russian Victory Day Parade

https://youtu.be/1tMvBFgnmY8

T-14 Armata Russian "Super Tank" BREAKS DOWN During Military Parade Rehearsal In Moscow

https://youtu.be/kFoikbucn2Y




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Dima

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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

US_Brake wrote (View Post):
T-14 Armata Russian "Super Tank" BREAKS DOWN During Military Parade In Moscow
https://youtu.be/kFoikbucn2Y

that was a rehearsal on May 7th. Nothing happend during the Parade.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:20 am Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

March 2015 - A major vulnerability that allowed French submarine to “sink” aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and most of its escort during drills was apparently revealed by the French Navy and Defense Ministry in blogposts that were quickly wiped out.

The exercise was meant to be straight forward for the Battle group to take out the very old and out of date French sub. After the exercise the US Govt and Navy asked ( more like pleaded ) to remove any media releases and forget this debacle. Too late French media and then the Brit's published the drubbing.

There is a story going around that the US Navy wants to buy that very sub for testing ? The French have apparently said they will gladly sell it in a few years time. Just goes to show that not all new tech is better and certainly not in the examples given.
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

US_Brake wrote (View Post):
My President said it best in his speech last September. I agree with him and the US policy.
“Russian aggression in Europe recalls the days when large nations trampled small ones in pursuit of territorial ambition" - President Barack Obama
https://youtu.be/xiI6crx4Z9k

That's a lesson for your President that when you make an anti-Russian coup in a country bordering with Russia you are should expect the retaliation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G93SlyJIQSg
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/17/us-eu-paying-ukrainian-rioters-protesters-paul-craig-roberts/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-aided-a-coup-led-by-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/5371940
 
But did he say anything about US agression in Middle East and North Africa?
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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

In 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin seized Crimea, fomenting conflict in eastern Ukraine. In this Brookings Essay, Chrystia Freeland details Ukraine’s efforts to maintain its sovereignty.

The Ukraine




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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Russia - Whats goin on.. Reply with quote

US_Brake wrote (View Post):
In 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin seized Crimea, fomenting conflict in eastern Ukraine. In this Brookings Essay, Chrystia Freeland details Ukraine’s efforts to maintain its sovereignty.
The Ukraine

That's a lesson for your President that when you make an anti-Russian coup in a country bordering with Russia you are should expect the retaliation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G93SlyJIQSg
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/02/17/us-eu-paying-ukrainian-rioters-protesters-paul-craig-roberts/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article37599.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-and-why-the-u-s-government-aided-a-coup-led-by-neo-nazis-in-ukraine/5371940
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