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sod98

Rep: 11.6
votes: 5


PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:43 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

[quote="dj";p="86170"]Oooops.  Keep going with that blaming the mainstream media.  It is all an international conspiracy victimizing Trump's billionaire good ole boys club.  AG Jeff Sessions said he should have "slowed down" and that is the reason why he lied....errr..."forgot" he did have meetings with the Russian Spy.  Russian ambassador.  

USA paranoia, still no evidence that the Russians had anything to do with the Elections. Pelosi has also met with Russian's and others. Big deal, only the paranoid worry. Sadly your media only reports what you want to hear ( most of MSM - Fox has have covered the facts..............lol. ).

Putin the wealthiest man on the planet..........what are you smoking. Look up the wealthiest people then wonder where are the Duponts, Rothchilds etc. You must be from a pro cannabis state.

Mooxe - US security have already admitted to wire tap of Trump's people before and during campaign with the use of court orders. The grounds for this remain shady. Clapper denies this but with all of his lies who would know. Trump is hoping to find the golden bullet to put an end to all this Soro's backed opposition.

Evidence is everything and paranoia is nothing. No evidence on the Russian's but MSM reports it as truth and have done of months. That also applies to Trump - he needs to put up or go home. Some evidence in the last two days but no Trump Tower tapping....yet. Sadly USA is slow pulling apart over absolute rubbish by those who still want power.

Great doco - Ukraine on Fire. You will see most of the same protagonist - Soro's, McCain, Clinton etc.
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mooxe

Rep: 212.8
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:18 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

So you're saying Trump's people were being wiretapped before the campaign?
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
So you're saying Trump's people were being wiretapped before the campaign?


Bad wording by me - surveillance, investigate.....what ever you want to call it. Electronic surveillance at the very least.  http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11812666
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

sod98 wrote (View Post):
mooxe wrote (View Post):
So you're saying Trump's people were being wiretapped before the campaign?


Bad wording by me - surveillance, investigate.....what ever you want to call it. Electronic surveillance at the very least.  http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11812666  


Try this one - http://m.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11812666
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

The Russian are at it again - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qTT69dNH8Q
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

The NZ Herald summarizes whats going on and offers no proof of its own, or proof of wiretapping. Also says they have no evidence.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
The NZ Herald summarizes whats going on and offers no proof of its own, or proof of wiretapping. Also says they have no evidence.


This just breaking news give it a chance. More to follow. Interested to know if any of this was reported in US media or is it all one way. Lets face it they have published numerous unfinished stories on Trump - the women who have accused him of indecent acts ( maybe not the right wording ), ties to Russia, business in Russia and so forth.
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reconscout

Rep: 53.9


PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

Where I live we swung from being a very pro Democrat party majority state to being neutral 50/50 while POTUS Obama was in power. He and his party forgot about the working class and middle class. I was a member of the Democratic Party until the party left me and went to far left. I am now an independent. I still vote for more Democrats then Republicans but not by much. In the election my state which is usually solidly Democrat went for Trump instead. During Obama's time we lost a large number of jobs when factories moved out of the country to Mexico and China but all the Democrats talked about was "white privilege", "black lives mater", open boarders and transgender bathrooms. I am not wild about either Trump or Clinton, it was like choosing the lesser of two evils. I want to give Trump a chance just like I would if Clinton won but our press is very unfair and attacks everything he does. He is no angle but the press overlooked many of the things Clinton did and just focused on him. The funny thing is before he ran for president no one called him any of the things they accuse him of now. He was even thought to be a Democrat and his daughter was friends with the Clinton's daughter.


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sod98

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

reconscout - What you have said appears to be what the more moderate media outlets are saying to. I am at a loss to understand the constant partisan media on Trump which started basically day one of him announcing that he was running in the Repub's. I can fully understand why people wouldn't vote Democrats also after many years in office with less job prospects, massive foreign debt ( 4 in one Obama term alone ) and a failed foreign policy and a total lack of Domestic Policy. Already the stock market is showing improvement and Trump is looking foremost to a Domestic Policy first before anything else - USA and it's people.

As you say he needs to be given a chance and the likes of Soro and Obama need to retire to the golf course. There is still plenty to come with the surveillance accusations also - Obama change of Security Law 12.3.3.3 less than 3 weeks before leaving office among other things.

All the best.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

New Wikileaks Documents on CIA hacking - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/technology/cia-hacking-documents-wikileaks-iphones-tvs.html?_r=0
 
Interesting to see that the CIA are using other countries hacking tools to hide the actions and put the blame on others.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

US Frankfurt Consulate - Black site for hackers - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/wikileaks-claims-cia-hackers-enter-9983905
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:04 pm Post subject: Russia, if youre listening... Reply with quote

The Russians hacked the election to help Trump. Although flat-earthers in the White House and elsewhere continue to dispute this, it is a generally accepted conclusion within the greater narrative of this scandal. Further, damning allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians in this effort are agonizingly being borne out as denials of Russian communication with campaign associates are proven false and new channels of contact between them become known.

While such communication would not be in itself criminal, the Steele dossier alleges that quid pro quos were exchanged for the Russian interference, in particular "to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and raise US/NATO defence commitments to deflect attention away from Ukraine". The Trump campaign executed both of these actions during the GOP convention when Trump's now infamous comments questioning US commitment to NATO in the Baltics were made, and the campaign led the GOP platform committee to soften its support for Ukraine.

In the latter case Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort, a figure with extensive ro-Russian involvement in Ukraine, categorically denied any effort by the campaign to change the GOP platform - "It absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign," Manafort told NBC's "Meet the Press". However, a week ago JD Gordon, a campaign staffer at the convention who previously denied participation on the Ukraine issue, admitted he "advocated for the GOP platform to include language against arming Ukrainians against pro-Russian rebels". Hard to credit Manafort's lie then as anything other than part of a continuing effort to cover up campaign collusion with the Russians.

As the investigative noose tightens more relatively low-level dupes like Gordon will come forward with corroborating evidence as they seek to distance themselves from what will become a historic political Chernobyl. The void of evidence following Trump's tweets accusing Obama posits that the intelligence community developed information on the core charge of collusion in the course of what would otherwise be considered routine counterintelligence activities were it not for the fact that a US presidential candidate was involved. To paraphrase Deep Throat's 'just follow the money' in Watergate, the IC followed the Russians revolving around Trump.

It's going to be a bloodbath as the stakes have reached the level that the players, individual and institutional, aren't just gambling reputations, careers and potential incarceration but also which side of history to be on. I fake pity poor Mike Pence who is looking at becoming an incumbent president with little chance of even being the next nominee for what will be an unviable national party.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:14 am Post subject: Re: Russia, if youre listening... Reply with quote

mick_xe5 wrote (View Post):
The Russians hacked the election to help Trump. Although flat-earthers in the White House and elsewhere continue to dispute this, it is a generally accepted conclusion within the greater narrative of this scandal. Further, damning allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians in this effort are agonizingly being borne out as denials of Russian communication with campaign associates are proven false and new channels of contact between them become known.

While such communication would not be in itself criminal, the Steele dossier alleges that quid pro quos were exchanged for the Russian interference, in particular "to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and raise US/NATO defence commitments to deflect attention away from Ukraine". The Trump campaign executed both of these actions during the GOP convention when Trump's now infamous comments questioning US commitment to NATO in the Baltics were made, and the campaign led the GOP platform committee to soften its support for Ukraine.

In the latter case Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort, a figure with extensive ro-Russian involvement in Ukraine, categorically denied any effort by the campaign to change the GOP platform - "It absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign," Manafort told NBC's "Meet the Press". However, a week ago JD Gordon, a campaign staffer at the convention who previously denied participation on the Ukraine issue, admitted he "advocated for the GOP platform to include language against arming Ukrainians against pro-Russian rebels". Hard to credit Manafort's lie then as anything other than part of a continuing effort to cover up campaign collusion with the Russians.

As the investigative noose tightens more relatively low-level dupes like Gordon will come forward with corroborating evidence as they seek to distance themselves from what will become a historic political Chernobyl. The void of evidence following Trump's tweets accusing Obama posits that the intelligence community developed information on the core charge of collusion in the course of what would otherwise be considered routine counterintelligence activities were it not for the fact that a US presidential candidate was involved. To paraphrase Deep Throat's 'just follow the money' in Watergate, the IC followed the Russians revolving around Trump.

It's going to be a bloodbath as the stakes have reached the level that the players, individual and institutional, aren't just gambling reputations, careers and potential incarceration but also which side of history to be on. I fake pity poor Mike Pence who is looking at becoming an incumbent president with little chance of even being the next nominee for what will be an unviable national party.


Can you show one shred of evidence of this fairy tale please.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

mick_xe5 - On the Ukraine subject alone you must watch " Must See Ukraine 2013 Eng Subs " or Oliver Stone's ( an American ) Ukraine on Fire. Both damning reports on how USA funded the Ukraine coup. Names like Vic Nuland, US Ukraine Ambass G Pyatt, McCain, Chevron Oil amongst many others. US not alone - Netherlands also funded the Maidan - funny how they are in charge of the investigation into MH17. Ukraine on Fire will be hard to find though. Most Western media refuse to show it.

Sorry but the rest of your story is straight out of 1930's Germany propaganda.
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mick_xe5

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Russia, if youre listening... Reply with quote

"Can you show one shred of evidence of this fairy tale please."

Exactly the question the world is asking Trump concerning his wiretap tweets.

re: "my story"
I must admit to having stolen 'my story' from a wide spectrum of the int'l media. The Obama tweets and recent Wikileaks' CIA release, the timing of which Im sure was purely coincidental, raises an ominous prospect - to what lengths will this beleaguered administration go to distract and divert as the multiple investigations zero in?
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sod98

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

Wikileaks have already gone somewhat to prove it's possible ( not evidence ) but the certainly is more waiting to come out on this story. You just have to be patient.

Sadly in the USA today finding people with the knowledge to investigate their own Org's and get to the truth has been an issues since at least the Vietnam war. I did say previous he needs to put up. But equally US Security Agencies ( the 17 major ones at least ) you would think between them with all their tech should be able to produce one shred on evidence against Trump and the Russians. Wikileaks has it right - all of the accusations of hacking, election interference etc was the CIA themselves and the hacking and fingerprint tools go somewhat to proving it.

Did you check out the Ukraine nonsense. Another great video is of Soro's saying how he provided moneys to groups in the coup and aided the coup.
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dj

Rep: 145.5
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

Oooops! National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn,  this week finally disclosed he was a paid Lobbyist for Turkey while receiving Classified briefing after the election.  On the day of the Election he posted a clearly paid article asking to extradite Turkish national.  And Mike Pence said he was not aware of this and Flynn's meetings with Russia either.  Oops! Again.  Mike Pence got caught in lie.  Letter dated in November on official government business was sent directly to him.  Virtually impossible for him not to know.

https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/documents/2016-11-18.EEC%20to%20Pence.pdf
 
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

Trump surrogate and staunch ally Nigel Farage just met with Wikileaks founder Asange.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-emails-nigel-farage-wikileaks-julian-assange-2017-3
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sod98

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

[quote="dj";p="86205"]Oooops! National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn,  this week finally disclosed he was a paid Lobbyist for Turkey while receiving Classified briefing after the election.  On the day of the Election he posted a clearly paid article asking to extradite Turkish national.  And Mike Pence said he was not aware of this and Flynn's meetings with Russia either.  Oops! Again.  Mike Pence got caught in lie.  Letter dated in November on official government business was sent directly to him.  Virtually impossible for him not to know.

I thought Lobbyists and all it's forms were legal or is that just for the Multinats. Clinton's and the Russian mining company - Bill C paid 10x usual speaking fee and Russians granted US mining rights for Uranium. All politicians lie, it's the nature of the beast. Lucky for Trump he's a new politician.

Farage can meet with anyone one he wants. Only the paranoid would and could say otherwise. Assange's Wikileaks is a good place to visit when looking for the truth. To date nothing published or released by them has been discredited............unlike MSM. After all is it the truth you were writing about. So Assange and Wikileaks must be hero's to you I guess.
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sod98

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: Donald Trumph Reply with quote

DJ - If you really want to find a Trump failure look no further than his latest policy of boots on the ground in Syria. It's an illegal action - act of war. The sort of thing that he stood against at the elections. It is clearly a criminal act.
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