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HasaniSabbah

Rep: 21.3
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:36 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

 Don't think Clinton really did anything wrong or different from what most of Europe wanted for Yugo-slav separation wars.

So we can expect the US / Nato to start bombing Spain then over the Catalan Independence.

Agree with you over Hillary. But don't forget Hillary saw combat in Bosnia 1996 at the airport. She really knows how to put her foot in things sometimes and people don't forget those lies easily.
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dj

Rep: 114
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Just fyi Trump is not the anti-war saint you think he is.  Despite bi-partisan opposition to war in Yemen he continues to meddle in that war supporting his Saudi dictatorship buddy.  Yemen just had one of their most deadly months in recent years and cities there are starting to resemble Syria.  Starting to look like those cities are carpet bombed and obliterated.  And Trump raised defense spending sharply so now USA national debt has doubled.  And the only reason why he hastily pulled-out of Syria is due to pressure by both Turkey and Russia.  Flynn served as both Turkey & Russia's servant getting paid and lied about it.  Nobody is sure yet what Russia offered him but doesn't take a genius he is always looking out for their best interests.  The winners in Syria are Turkey and Russia.  The Kurds are trying to get help from Assad now.  Turkey seems to have gangster local militias on their side ( or maybe they are really Turkish special forces ?) seizing the Kurdish lands and executing local civilians.
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:26 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Just fyi Trump is not the anti-war saint you think he is.  Despite bi-partisan opposition to war in Yemen he continues to meddle in that war supporting his Saudi dictatorship buddy.  Yemen just had one of their most deadly months in recent years and cities there are starting to resemble Syria.  Starting to look like those cities are carpet bombed and obliterated.  And Trump raised defense spending sharply so now USA national debt has doubled.  And the only reason why he hastily pulled-out of Syria is due to pressure by both Turkey and Russia.  Flynn served as both Turkey & Russia's servant getting paid and lied about it.  Nobody is sure yet what Russia offered him but doesn't take a genius he is always looking out for their best interests.  The winners in Syria are Turkey and Russia.  The Kurds are trying to get help from Assad now.  Turkey seems to have gangster local militias on their side ( or maybe they are really Turkish special forces ?) seizing the Kurdish lands and executing local civilians.


Trump is just less war like compared to others. Yes he has backed his allies - Saudi A and Israel over their military actions. No winners in Syria. The cost of rebuilding will be massive. Russia will have re secured her Mediterranean deep water port in Syria. While Turkey will continue to have issue with the Kurds who live over the border in Iraq, Iran and Syria. While domestically his own Kurds will keep pressing for autonomy. I have heard about these militias but no hard evidence.....yet as to their crimes.

Off to Turkey soon, shall see if anything has change too much since my last visit. To visitors it's probably no different.......I hope.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:14 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Quote:
No winners in Syria


'Syria is the land of bad options' - Brett McGurk
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dj

Rep: 114
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:25 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Brett McGurk was a fantastic leader & highly honorable man.  Resigned in protest like General Matthis one year ago due to Syria debacle.  Today as our troops pulled out of Syria the trucks were pelted by angry civilian Kurds.   US should never have been there in the first place but due to the disastrous invasion of Iraq, we own the mess that we created.  Dick Cheney and daughter should pay the bill with war reparations.  Not sure what Russia hopes to accomplish in Syria besides selling more tanks and weapons to their government?  It will get too expensive for Russia to support client-state in land that looks like nuclear winter.

As far as the atrocities there, yes there are videos showing massacre of Kurdish civilians by pro-Turkish gang militias.   It has been posted on television.  Not sure why Turkey is even allowed to be a member of NATO and Trump completely capitulated with nothing in return.  Except maybe a promise to allow Trump to build more hotels in Istanbul.
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dj

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:05 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

even Fox News is not safe any more meltdown  https://crooksandliars.com/2019/09/rudy-giuliani-flips-out-laura-ingraham
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:12 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

As far as the atrocities there, yes there are videos showing massacre of Kurdish civilians by pro-Turkish gang militias.   It has been posted on television.  Not sure why Turkey is even allowed to be a member of NATO and Trump completely capitulated with nothing in return.  Except maybe a promise to allow Trump to build more hotels in Istanbul.[/quote]

Just be care of those videos, as many out of that region have later to be redefined as old footage and some were ISIS and friends crimes. The best of these was the gas attack in Idlib. Firstly the Syrian Govt was accused. The UN now believes the rebels were reasonable. From how the canisters supposedly landed to their damage. Lack of credible witnesses and what the rebels did post the attack. This conflict as all conflicts aren't immune to false claims / videos and media. You can't just blame one or two people for what was clearly the fault of many - GB, Saudi Arabia, Israel and USA.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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Not sure what Russia hopes to accomplish in Syria besides selling more tanks and weapons to their government?  It will get too expensive for Russia to support client-state in land that looks like nuclear winter.

Air&sea bases and power influence - already obtained, as true imperialism assets. For others - Syria is not a complete nuclear desert, it has oil, great agricultural possibilities, and many areas was not demolished like Rakka or Aleppo. Some self-supply will be obtained anyway, although not even close to pre-war state. BTW, population was also greatly reduced. Part of costs will be deducted to Iran (in return to preserve strategic position against Israel), China position will depend on their status of US relations - if trade war proceeds further and sanctions will come, China will be less precise in obtaining clients.
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:41 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Interest article by an explosive journalist on Syria - https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/29/by-protecting-idlib-the-us-created-a-safe-haven-for-baghdadi-and-isis/#more-16056
 


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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Looks like the pinpoint strike to take-out General Soleimani was either a diversion from pending political peril Trump and his allies face (including jail sentences for Stone and General Flynn)....OR an escalation of series of provocations between Trump and the Tehran islamist state.  Clearly Tehran with their local militias in Baghdad orchestrated the looting of U.S embassy entrance facilities.

What an epic clusterfk.  So... in the 80's Saddam and his majority Sunni state was used as proxy to wage revenge against the Iranian revolution receiving billions in U.S. aid and arms.  Then almost 20 years ago we propped up a minority Shia regime backed by their Iranian comrades because Bush regime was paranoid the Sunni's would be too loyal to Saddam and not be loyal to new Iraqi govt.  Which helped give rise to radical Sunni militia gangs that were angry about propping up Shia

Then after Obama pledged to end U.S. involvement in Iraq as election slogan, Trump also copied Obama boasting how stupid Bush was to meddle.  Yet he now Tweets that now is the chance for disgruntled Sunni's to fight back against the Shia minority regime in Iraq with secular violence amongst the militias?  And angers the Shia dominated Iraqi govt that we propped up prompting them to seek election to ask us to leave?  Worst US policy blunder in history.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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Clearly Tehran with their local militias in Baghdad orchestrated the looting of U.S embassy entrance facilities.

Oh, that crocodile tears...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45453215
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/11/iraqi-protesters-attack-iran-consulate-karbala-191103232545555.html
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dj

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Interesting the shoe is on other foot...good articles.

"...post-war political system and a class of elite leaders that (people) accuse of pillaging the country's wealth while the country grows poorer"

I thought this part was talking about USA life for a moment.   Or Putin is said to have similarly looted vast fortunes from the backs of Russian people sadly.
Allegedly Putin is said to be amongst the wealthiest men in the world.  Or course he will never show his financials like Trump.
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

So is it stay or is it go for the US troops in Iraq. And if they go, will they go to Syria to help protect the Syrian oil................lol.
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:23 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

I guess second Iraq occupation now is about time after night missile strike. Then co-co-coalition will begin leveling-up Iran by air&missile strikes in Jugoslavia-style, while Iran will mobilize all its proxies for terror resistance on US hold territories. Israel will likely step aside ([sarcasm on]it`s a requirement for status of best US ally in Middle East...), UK will join dog-like, Saudies probably will be forced to war by full-scale Houthi rush from south in attempt to drain some power from iran targets. TV will be colorful with explosions and multi-star generals for several next monhts...
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Trump now using video to claim plane crash in Tehran was shot down. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7870409/Video-appears-surface-air-missile-hitting-Ukrainian-plane-moments-crashed.html
 
Easily have been the jet while on fire. But guess experts will decide....................lol. Very shakey video at night and why video pitch black skies to start with unless something had already happened, maybe ?
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 4:22 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Oooops...now Iran got caught in a lie as CIA Jedi mind trick didn't work.  

AP article
https://www.ozarksfirst.com/local-news/world-news/iran-says-it-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner/
 
Sadly they ended up killing many of their own people in the process about half of victims were Iranian nationals.
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dj

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

And this confirms what I suspected that the assassination of General Soleimani was done for purely political reasons:

"The White House won’t show Congress or the American people their evidence to justify the strike because it doesn’t exist."...and like Trump's other multiple lies, the story keeps changing or shifting.  Now he tells his Fox News propaganda network "probably" Iran was planning attacks on 4 embassies.  Note the word probably is extremely vague often used by weasels or shiesty salesmen.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/10/trump-admits-he-killed-soleimani-to-keep-gop-senators-with-him-on-impeachment.html
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Where is this leading - interfering ? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7877079/Britains-ambassador-Iran-ARRESTED-photographing-protesters-Tehran-clash.html
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JFFulcrum

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:32 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-warns-iraq-it-risks-losing-access-to-key-bank-account-if-troops-told-to-leave-11578759629
 
Just another lesson about storing your country`s money in US financial system, if examples of Argentina and Venezuela was not enough.
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Antony_nz

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

The bombing of US bases by Iran was completely justified and was a disproportionate reaction in terms of the fact that they didn't go far enough. The international community and the United States itself must act quickly to unilaterally condemn the extremely serious international crime committed by Donald Trump and America.
Such banditry and assassinations should never be tolerated.
It's so outrageous I would almost wish that an equivalent American military man be assassinated as a response. Though that would be falling to America's level and Iran should try and look like ''The adult'' in the room.

The shooting down of the airliner was a terrible thing and should be seen as a major mistake by Iran.
But to pretend it isn't partially America's fault would be ridiculous. Iran was forced to attack one of the most dangerous/wild and increasingly erratic nations on earth.
America's banditry and attacks are what created this environment where Iran was on a knifes edge. When you put a country into red alert the chances of things like this happening dramatically increases.
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