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HasaniSabbah

Rep: 12.6


PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:36 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

 Don't think Clinton really did anything wrong or different from what most of Europe wanted for Yugo-slav separation wars.

So we can expect the US / Nato to start bombing Spain then over the Catalan Independence.

Agree with you over Hillary. But don't forget Hillary saw combat in Bosnia 1996 at the airport. She really knows how to put her foot in things sometimes and people don't forget those lies easily.
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dj

Rep: 108.4
votes: 7


PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Just fyi Trump is not the anti-war saint you think he is.  Despite bi-partisan opposition to war in Yemen he continues to meddle in that war supporting his Saudi dictatorship buddy.  Yemen just had one of their most deadly months in recent years and cities there are starting to resemble Syria.  Starting to look like those cities are carpet bombed and obliterated.  And Trump raised defense spending sharply so now USA national debt has doubled.  And the only reason why he hastily pulled-out of Syria is due to pressure by both Turkey and Russia.  Flynn served as both Turkey & Russia's servant getting paid and lied about it.  Nobody is sure yet what Russia offered him but doesn't take a genius he is always looking out for their best interests.  The winners in Syria are Turkey and Russia.  The Kurds are trying to get help from Assad now.  Turkey seems to have gangster local militias on their side ( or maybe they are really Turkish special forces ?) seizing the Kurdish lands and executing local civilians.
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HasaniSabbah

Rep: 12.6


PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:26 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

dj wrote (View Post):
Just fyi Trump is not the anti-war saint you think he is.  Despite bi-partisan opposition to war in Yemen he continues to meddle in that war supporting his Saudi dictatorship buddy.  Yemen just had one of their most deadly months in recent years and cities there are starting to resemble Syria.  Starting to look like those cities are carpet bombed and obliterated.  And Trump raised defense spending sharply so now USA national debt has doubled.  And the only reason why he hastily pulled-out of Syria is due to pressure by both Turkey and Russia.  Flynn served as both Turkey & Russia's servant getting paid and lied about it.  Nobody is sure yet what Russia offered him but doesn't take a genius he is always looking out for their best interests.  The winners in Syria are Turkey and Russia.  The Kurds are trying to get help from Assad now.  Turkey seems to have gangster local militias on their side ( or maybe they are really Turkish special forces ?) seizing the Kurdish lands and executing local civilians.


Trump is just less war like compared to others. Yes he has backed his allies - Saudi A and Israel over their military actions. No winners in Syria. The cost of rebuilding will be massive. Russia will have re secured her Mediterranean deep water port in Syria. While Turkey will continue to have issue with the Kurds who live over the border in Iraq, Iran and Syria. While domestically his own Kurds will keep pressing for autonomy. I have heard about these militias but no hard evidence.....yet as to their crimes.

Off to Turkey soon, shall see if anything has change too much since my last visit. To visitors it's probably no different.......I hope.
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JFFulcrum

Rep: 37.9


PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:14 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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No winners in Syria


'Syria is the land of bad options' - Brett McGurk
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dj

Rep: 108.4
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:25 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Brett McGurk was a fantastic leader & highly honorable man.  Resigned in protest like General Matthis one year ago due to Syria debacle.  Today as our troops pulled out of Syria the trucks were pelted by angry civilian Kurds.   US should never have been there in the first place but due to the disastrous invasion of Iraq, we own the mess that we created.  Dick Cheney and daughter should pay the bill with war reparations.  Not sure what Russia hopes to accomplish in Syria besides selling more tanks and weapons to their government?  It will get too expensive for Russia to support client-state in land that looks like nuclear winter.

As far as the atrocities there, yes there are videos showing massacre of Kurdish civilians by pro-Turkish gang militias.   It has been posted on television.  Not sure why Turkey is even allowed to be a member of NATO and Trump completely capitulated with nothing in return.  Except maybe a promise to allow Trump to build more hotels in Istanbul.
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dj

Rep: 108.4
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:05 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

even Fox News is not safe any more meltdown  https://crooksandliars.com/2019/09/rudy-giuliani-flips-out-laura-ingraham
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HasaniSabbah

Rep: 12.6


PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:12 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

As far as the atrocities there, yes there are videos showing massacre of Kurdish civilians by pro-Turkish gang militias.   It has been posted on television.  Not sure why Turkey is even allowed to be a member of NATO and Trump completely capitulated with nothing in return.  Except maybe a promise to allow Trump to build more hotels in Istanbul.[/quote]

Just be care of those videos, as many out of that region have later to be redefined as old footage and some were ISIS and friends crimes. The best of these was the gas attack in Idlib. Firstly the Syrian Govt was accused. The UN now believes the rebels were reasonable. From how the canisters supposedly landed to their damage. Lack of credible witnesses and what the rebels did post the attack. This conflict as all conflicts aren't immune to false claims / videos and media. You can't just blame one or two people for what was clearly the fault of many - GB, Saudi Arabia, Israel and USA.
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JFFulcrum

Rep: 37.9


PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:36 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

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Not sure what Russia hopes to accomplish in Syria besides selling more tanks and weapons to their government?  It will get too expensive for Russia to support client-state in land that looks like nuclear winter.

Air&sea bases and power influence - already obtained, as true imperialism assets. For others - Syria is not a complete nuclear desert, it has oil, great agricultural possibilities, and many areas was not demolished like Rakka or Aleppo. Some self-supply will be obtained anyway, although not even close to pre-war state. BTW, population was also greatly reduced. Part of costs will be deducted to Iran (in return to preserve strategic position against Israel), China position will depend on their status of US relations - if trade war proceeds further and sanctions will come, China will be less precise in obtaining clients.
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HasaniSabbah

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:41 am Post subject: Re: What's happen in the USA Reply with quote

Interest article by an explosive journalist on Syria - https://thegrayzone.com/2019/10/29/by-protecting-idlib-the-us-created-a-safe-haven-for-baghdadi-and-isis/#more-16056
 


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