[Drizzt]

To sieterayos: Yes, I understand the danger inside some of my words (I agree with you about born of fascism - middle class etc.). The reborn of fascism (in all Europe) it’s a real danger in this crisis. There is nothing of regressive in what I have tried to explain because we are now in this way (we don’t want become in this way to react to this crisis, we are in this way already). The enemy of the "middle class" in 1920 were workers and socialism ideas, now, in my opinion, it’s clear to almost all that it’s the ruling class the problem (small businnessmen suffer because working class suffer: there is few money to buy goods/services).
Socialist ideas heritages are anyway for sure deep in many small businessmen (because almost all come from working class): I know about small businessmen died suicidal because they can’t pay anymore their workers. Many of them are like workers in all, and they earn not so much more then their workers. Moreover, the cooperative system of production it’s another piece of this puzzle (I mean the real cooperative system of production, there is also a false one that have lost its roots).
Having said this, there are of course also many small businessmen really egoist. Anyway, who attacks constantly the working class (and ignore the small businessmen) it’s the ruling class (of “left”, of right and economical).

Drizzt

[dj]

Yes what is constantly indoctrinated into the masses that there are 3 types of government Communism , Socialism and Capitalism is no longer valid.  China for instance is nowhere near a true Communist state...it is very much a hybrid.  It's all a bunch of lies.  American media has told us for decades that Communism is the evil empire and dangerous...yet we have witnessed the greatest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen, sending many millions of American jobs to China using slave labor prison style conditions.  Moreover virtually every consumer item sold in America is stamped "made in China".  If Commmunism was truly so dangerous then why did America terminate millions of jobs and replace them in Commie China?  And subsequently sent trillions of $ USD worth of revenues to China at the expense of the middle class? It's all lies fed to the masses so the ruling class elitists can brainwash the people and control them via the modern day Police State.

The collapse of Ukraine is not going to have the ripple effect of what happened in Iceland with their banking system going belly up...but I think the political impact on both Russia and the E.U. is going to be significant to say the least.  I wonder if the Krauts will take action like the old days...they seem to call the shots in the EU right now.  Russia makes some serious cash from the Krauts importing their energy resources...so it will be interesting to see if they want to risk that relationship.

[Stwa]

So, did we sort out which thugs were in the costumes.  

Another genocide in Ukraine would be unacceptable.  


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OMG    

[Stwa]

American media has told us for decades that Communism is the evil empire and dangerous...yet we have witnessed the greatest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen, sending many millions of American jobs to China using slave labor prison style conditions. -dj

You must live East of the Mississippi.


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[Stwa]

That the West is interested only in human rights, freedom and international law, is taken as a given. -sieterayov

And this would be the reason why  


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[dj]

Now it is rumoured that there could be tensions or fighting between ethnic Ukrainians and Russian-speaking Putin loyalists in Ukraine.  Putin will have a lot of problems with control of ethnic Ukrainians if he takes any more lands in Ukraine.  Although I think RF will try one last small land grab to connect Crimea.  Otherwise Putin risks real sanctions or trade deals especially with the Germans.  

[Stwa]

Are these the guys on page 13.  


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Ski masks.    


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[Dima]

And Eric Bana

[mooxe]

Here we go again....

[sieterayos]

[sieterayos]

“There is a script being written in the Russian Federation, for which there is only one purpose: the dismemberment and destruction of Ukraine and the transformation of Ukraine into the territory of slavery under the dictates of Russia.”

-Arseniy Yatsenyuk

As the figurehead of the US/EU backed putsch, "Yats" would know all about following scripts. Standing reality on its feet again, we have- “There is a script being written in the White House, for which there is only one purpose: the dismemberment and destruction of the Russian Federation and the transformation of Ukraine into the territory of slavery under the dictates of the US, EU and their proxies.”

[Dima]

They say here that Kiev hired 150 PMCs from Greystone (ex-Blackwater) and sent them to the East Ukraine to help dealing with separatists.

[sieterayos]

[Dima]

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[dj]

America's National Public Radio interviewed residents in Eastern Ukraine.  Do not call Ukraine "The" Ukraine...translates to the borderlands.  It is regarded as patronizing.  One Ukrainian that was interviewed by American journalist put it best...neither control by Russia or control by the "West" EU/USA are good options.  Ukrainians want to be truly independent without the overly controlling Russia or selling-out to the EU/USA.  However he acknowledged that Ukraine really does not have any other options since the economy is in shambles.  

The shit Global Economy trying to compete with Communist China and cheap slave labor in India is wrecking economies all over the world.  Especially with the Troll multi-national corporations that treat workers like dirt.  Ukraine is going to need economic support whether they like or not otherwise they will become a bottom tier eastern european nation without a future.