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Dima

Rep: 87.3
votes: 16


PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

the German Spiegel reports 400 american PMCs fighting for the Ukranian army.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-400-us-soeldner-von-academi-kaempfen-gegen-separatisten-a-968745.html
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:38 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

East Ukraine referendums declared NULL and VOID. Exclamation

German shoppers jubilant.  Arrow


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Stwa

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 10:29 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

OOPS  Arrow


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Stwa

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:36 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Russia needs a hero.  Idea

Obama rallies his troops.  Arrow  


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dj

Rep: 157.5
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:30 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Dima wrote (View Post):
the German Spiegel reports 400 american PMCs fighting for the Ukranian army.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-krise-400-us-soeldner-von-academi-kaempfen-gegen-separatisten-a-968745.html  


Yes this is probably true.  US Military has been using PMC's more and more in recent years.  However Russian Federation soldiers have also been identified on Ukrainian territory (not including Crimea).

@Stwa - you need to post more YouTubes, you haven't posted quite enough yet.   Rolling Eyes
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:25 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

@Stwa - you need to post more YouTubes, you haven't posted quite enough yet. -dj

No problem.  Idea

Ukranian pageant bans brunettes, redheads.  Shocked

Norwegians remain defiant.  Arrow  


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Stwa

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

How about Pravda for reliable info on mercs.  Question   Arrow


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Stwa

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 7:14 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

There just isn't that much action in Ukraine as far as revolutions go. It is hard to imagine the Russian Doomsday Device activating based on recent events.  

I wonder if these State Department types were hired by Hillary.  Question  Arrow


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Dima

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Stwa wrote (View Post):
There just isn't that much action in Ukraine as far as revolutions go. It is hard to imagine the Russian Doomsday Device activating based on recent events.  

I wonder if these State Department types were hired by Hillary.  Question  Arrow


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lol he's just called her idiot Smile
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Dima

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Stwa wrote (View Post):
There just isn't that much action in Ukraine as far as revolutions go. It is hard to imagine the Russian Doomsday Device activating based on recent events.

well Ukranians lost at least 108 KIA, dozens of WIA and 2 BTRs with 2-3 trucks and a couple of mortars in those days following referendum.
Interesting is that 102 KIA lost by ammunition dump explosion hit by 120mm bombon Karachun hill were recorded as deserters by the Ukranians according to the intercepts.
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

... Ukranians lost at least 108 KIA, dozens of WIA and 2 BTRs with 2-3 trucks and a couple of mortars in those days following referendum. Interesting is that 102 KIA lost by ammunition dump explosion hit by 120mm bombon Karachun hill were recorded as deserters by the Ukranians according to the intercepts. -Dima

Right, but if you recall, the Russian Doomsday device activates (detonates) when it detects high levels of radiation over Russia (or Soviet Union), that signifies to the device that there has been a Nuclear Apocolypse.


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Tippi-Simo

Rep: 53.1
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Russians are evil as the newspaper tells you!
Never trust a Russian!

P.S. A picture from my friend´s friend birthday party on the Gulf of Finland (I called it Finlandskiy Mor:P ) Good times.

P.P.S. Me and my brat Andrey (we might have been stoned to oblivion)



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"Du talar dalig svenska, men du är bra i sängen"
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Stwa

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 11:10 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Muhajireen commander calls for Jihad in Ukraine.  Laughing   Arrow

In Ukraine, the West will balance the confluence of Islam, homosexuality, and fast food. Muslims will supply Islam and Sharia. Christians that don't convert to Islam will supply the homosexuals, and Burger King and McDonalds will supply the fast food (GMOs and edible plastics).

At present, there are just way too many infidels in Ukraine.  Arrow


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Stwa

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

So, me thinks it is time for an intermission. But ...  Arrow

Will Ukraine go Bosnia? War May Come At Any Time

Will FIFA force the Ukraine football team to use African players?

Will the Russians move a Doomsday Device to Chernobyl?

Are the Cosmo NOTS and the International Space Station fake?


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mooxe

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

http://time.com/3042640/satellite-russian-ukraine-shelling/

More obviously Photoshopped imagery showing rocket artillery firing from Russia to Ukraine. Even if it was true, Russians would deny it and make sure that the public never heard of this and/or show these images as proof of a conspiracy.
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Dima

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
http://time.com/3042640/satellite-russian-ukraine-shelling/
More obviously Photoshopped imagery showing rocket artillery firing from Russia to Ukraine. Even if it was true, Russians would deny it and make sure that the public never heard of this and/or show these images as proof of a conspiracy.

Mooxe, looks like the conspiracy theories are in your head, those photos were in all news here since they were first released in a twitter of US abassador in Kiev.

And do they say about this in your media? http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/24/ukraine-unguided-rockets-killing-civilians
The use of indiscriminate rockets in populated areas violates international humanitarian law, or the laws of war, and may amount to war crimes.

And now it's getting more interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9-8KvtfjZA#t=22

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/john-kerry/
US Secretary of State John Kerry says Ukraine is ready for proposals on peace with Russia: 'Not in the future. Now'
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/jul/29/ukraine-would-accept-mutual-ceasefire-says-john-kerry-video
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

That's another thing I'd never need to see proof of to believe. Indiscriminate firing of weapons that hit civilian areas. That's a guarantee of all wars for all sides.
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Dima

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

mooxe wrote (View Post):
That's another thing I'd never need to see proof of to believe. Indiscriminate firing of weapons that hit civilian areas. That's a guarantee of all wars for all sides.

so do they have a war or trying to free their own people from separatists?
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mooxe

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Are we tip toeing around the word war? That's a new one.
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dj

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:36 am Post subject: Re: The Ukraine Reply with quote

Russia got caught by satellites:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/27/russia-ukraine-satellite_n_5625253.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
 

"...The memo said one image provides evidence that Russian forces have "fired across the border at Ukrainian military forces and that Russian-backed separatists have used heavy artillery provided by Russia in attacks on Ukrainian forces from inside Ukraine."

Another satellite image depicted in the memo shows "ground scarring at multiple rocket launch sites on the Russian side of the border oriented in the direction of Ukraine military units within Ukraine."

"The wide areas of impact near the Ukrainian military units indicates fire from multiple rocket launchers," the memo said."
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