[vobbnobb]

I never knew this but, I forced 2 members of zuggtrupp (battlefield commanders) to surrender with a surprise ambush from an m4 sherman. I don't really capture these guys often. Usually they fight to the death but morale was so low on the battlefield they gave up.

The interesting thing is I am able to use enemy flares to my advantage as this screenshot shows also, My platoon team announces it after the radio message came into Zuggtrupp (from off map german artillery team) I am wondering If this could be used as artillery barrages and aircraft strikes against them like  their own night flare was used against them. If so this opens up a whole new world for recon teams behind enemy lines in this game. By the way it's Panthers In The Fog.

[mooxe]

This would be a bug for sure.

[DoktorPaj]

I have played very little PiTF but I've never seen this ever happen, so I guess it could be a bug/new feature (can't tell for sure because Matrix) but I think it deserves investigating. If it is a bug I can understand that it went unnoticed in testing, partially because like you said, you don't capture command teams very often, and partially because there is only one round of night fighting per day of battle making it even more rare.

Nice find anyway, please update if you see more stuff like this happening. Also I think officials at the Matrix forum would be interested in seeing that, they might even(probably not) have an explanation.

[vobbnobb]

Platoon team commanders announce all strike radio commands. I don't think it is a bug because your platoon team can use the enemy radio that you captured along with the commanders.  The reason why I don't think this is a bug is because - Platoon commanders on both sides are the ones who issue strike orders if you take their radio you can receive enemy incoming strike orders and you can send them the wrong  information back to shell their own. example wrong coordinates like I did here. haha! It makes perfect sense.

[mooxe]

Your assuming too much here.

[vobbnobb]

It even lists them in radio message as an enemy announcement, why do you suppose a bug?

[ke_mechial]

I am not sure but, for calling strikes, there should be some codes etc. and if commander decides to surrender, they should possibly destroy these,(Remember a scene from "We were soldiers", while lieutenant was lying hit on the ground, he orders his man to make sure that, codes do not fall into enemy hand), then it comes to interrogation of the surrendered men, but  I suppose that could not be possible in a few minutes.

[vobbnobb]

Oh, those guys at bottom are just regular german non captured troops the zugg guys were captured about 5 minutes ago b4 flare became available

[mooxe]

CC5 used to have an old bug where the Germans got the notification that naval was available to Allies. They didn't get to use it though, they just heard Allies have it. I believe the 5.01 patch fixed it.

In this case, a text search of the PITF manual on the words capture, surrender and radio bring up nothing that would indicate this was meant to be possible. Taking that into account and the fact that this has never been mentioned before, I am sure its a bug.

[Cathartes]

vobbnobb:

Are you sure you 'captured' the flare?  By the screenshot it seems like this could be your flare that was announced, or
I'm not understanding what exactly happened.  It's possible that both sides received flares about the same time (what I see based on messages), but you could only use your flare and it seemed like you captured the German flare.  

As far as I'm aware, you can't "capture" enemy radios.  The message that comes in is listed under the Platoon HQ, whether they are dead, alive, or captured.  I think it's just the message protocol.

[vobbnobb]

[vobbnobb]

I was able to replicate this tonight and the enemy DOES NOT message allies when flares come in    This is indeed a special condition with captured enemy platoon troops and unused strikes for their team that you can use after the capture. Here is the proof, this screenshots shows NO enemy flare announcement just an Incoming! sound from allied troops.

How? For example well I think it may be the platoon HQs of your team may tell the captured platoon leaders to reply back in german to their artillery guys or a code to the wrong coordinates to hit the germans instead of allies. Then Bingo! You as the commander get that message back from the platoon hqs of your team for the go ahead to use it.  Whether it be flare, plane or artillery barrages.. TOLD YOU GUYS  

[mooxe]

[platoon_michael]

Ewwww its a bug............

get it off,get it off!

[Stwa]

[Pzt_Crackwise]

CC is such a great game that you find yourself often interpreting a couple of lines of code as real events. For instance when I killed a panther with grenades I imagined that one eventually got into the hatch or exhaust pipe or whatever, so that's why it explodes .  In reality, it is probably just a mathematical scala , like you have %1 chance to explode it with normal grenades etc.

A little bit of roleplaying is never bad

[pvt_Grunt]

You have a real "flare" for finding bugs....

[vobbnobb]

Hello again. I just want to report that yet again, I have captured a command team - 2 members from Netherland Zug trups in Last Stand Arnhem and had a flare available to my team again. After the NL command team surrendered I walked my own command team up to them while they were walking back to my teams and shortly after doing so I received a radio message (from the off map flare mortar team?) Indicating I had an enemy flare available to use just like what I said in the first post of this thread. This is twice now on the soldier stats screen at end of battle, It said they had 5 acts of cowardice in total between the two. I don;t know if walking up to them caused it or just the surrender of these troops got me to use their flare. This is twice now on different games, so maybe there is something to capturing enemy command teams with unused strikes. Or just a bug, still trying to capture enemy air and mortar strikes. Map was Huissen. Managed to only get some of it on video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BByvHMEAXM

[Pzt_Kanov]

I believe in you vobbnobb, it seems a special condition indeed. How long was from the capture of the command team to the appearance of the message by the captured enemy command team? very curious behavior.