Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
CC2, CC4 and CC5, CoI, CCTWAR and CCTLD works fine on my Win7 Ultimate x32 machine.
Can't install CC3 though...can't get past the install restriction screen.
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
I would think they can be persuaded to work, if not without some gremlins. I am running Cross of Iron on Win7 with no problems at all. Compatibility Mode is XP SP2 and run as Admin.
I have got CCIV to work using the Compatibility Troubleshooter, and accepting it's recommendations. The Game loads and plays fine, but crashes on Exit. Minor inconvenience.
The Videos can screw things up when loading some CC. Launch CC with the [Ctrl] key held down, and it will take you straight to the Options Dialog. Switch off the Videos. See if that gets you a bit further...
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Just installed CCIII on my Win7 Box. Run the cc3setup.exe program in XP SP2 Compatibility. Installation completed with no gremlins.
Run the cc3.exe in XP SP2 Compatibility, and the Game runs fine, with the same issue as CCIV, that is crashes on Exit, though Win7 traps it and tells you it's looking for a solution, which there probably isn't.
I have found the Compatibility Troubleshooter to be surprsingly effective. Look for it in the Right-Click Menu when selecting a program to launch.
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Hey Tanks! I Tested CC3 and Cross of iron.
Whit win7 Compatibility mode Windows xp Service pack 2..
The both games runs finne untill I get in to the game manu.
When i select something "Option" the game crash..
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
When you launch the Game, go straight to the 'Options' Dialog (F8 key) and switch off Video (if it isn't already). Alternative is to launch CC holding the [Ctrl] Key down as this should take you straight to the Options Dialog.
Make sure you are running the program in Administrator Mode.
Also, Right Click on the cc3.exe file and select Compatibility Troubleshooter and follow the prompts. Accept it's first recommendations and see if that helps.
Another thing you might try is changing the Computer's Graphics to 16bit colour (as it's probably defaulted to 32bit). CC runs in 16bit, and changes the resolution for the purpose which is fine with Win95/98 which it was developed for. I know it can cause problems in certain situations. It can be a pain if you have to switch colour modes every time to start and finish playing, but if that's the way it works, don't knock it
Windows 7 (or Vista) does not like to let any program work in full screen (as opposed to a maximised Window), so any program that wants full screen control is likely to have issues. I think Win7/Vista is much fussier than previous releases of Windows about this.
As I said, I ran the Compatibility Troubleshooter on CCIII (cc3.exe) and let it make the settings, which worked. The only issue being when exiting the program, Windows traps an error (probably a GPF of some sort) and tells you that it is not responding, when you can then close it. I haven't found it to have any negative effects on the game in any other ways. I don't get that with CoI, just CCIII.
I think CoI is a better version of CCIII. For a newcomer, I would say don't bother with CCIII at all, just get CoI. You can still play the classic CCIII Grand Campaign(s), Operations(s), and Battle(s) anyway, and you get an extra Campaign ceated for CoI which I think is excellent. Read the Operation and Battle Briefings from battle to battle!. The AI is better in as much as it forces you to be more cohesive with the way you command your Force. It is debatable whther the Tactical AI is any better. Probably not much on the whole, but I think it is an improvement.
CC3/CoI is fairly unique out of all the Series in the way it allows you a far more initimate experience with your Battle Group. Do you still have ANY of the original force which set out in 1941 at the end in 1945? It can be hard enough getting them to last an Operation sometimes... This is one of the reasons it is my favourite, quite apart from the excellent Custom Battle creator (Scenario Editor), providing limitless 'what if's' and just messing about if the fancy takes you. Ever lined up 15 Tiger II's against 15 JSII's on on eof hte open Kursk Maps and let them slug it out? Who normally wins do you think? It was not quite what I expected, and the results are pretty consistant.
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Nope it' look's like it's not working!
if it aint crash and restart it get stuck.
I could switch back to my old graficcard if i dont finnd a other way!
can i turn off 3d accelerator some how on the Graficcard?
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
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can i turn off 3d accelerator some how on the Graficcard?
Normally done using the utility DXDIAG.exe which can be launched from the 'Run' option in the Start Menu. If your Win7 doesn't show this, change the Properties of the Start Menu so that it does. Also, ATI usually has some Control Panel which you could look at to tweak Graphic Settings.
Before changing any Acceleration Settings, you might try disabling DirectDraw and see if that helps.
p.s. Look in the Event Logs to see if anything useful has been logged there. If an Application hangs or crashes, there should be something logged. It may or may not prove useful, but anything that helps us identify why they will not run on your System while it does on ours would be useful.
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
I am not realy good at computers but i tested
to tweak Graphic Settings and disabling DirectDraw.
Direct3D accelaration to.
Now i am trying to whatch the minidumps
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.4
Locale ID: 1053
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 116
BCP1: 86F81510
BCP2: 8D35EC4E
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000002
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1
Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\042510-32203-01.dmp
C:\Users\Jolle\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-74156-0.sysdata.xml
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
The Blue Screen means (99.9%) that there is an issue with a Driver. Make sure that all your Drivers are up to date, especially the Graphics, as this is probably the most likely source of the problem.
Can you make a note of the hex strings shown on the Blue Screen? i.e. the 0x00000000 or similar, as they can sometimes be used with the MS Knowledge Base to identify specific issues.
Can you get into the Game Options at all? For example, it might help to set the resolution in the Game to the same as the Desktop, as this would prevent the game from trying to change the PC's resolution which could be causing the failure.
Clutching at straws a bit, but if we hammer enough possibilities, we might just crack it.
p.s. those Dumps are unlikley to be very helpful except to an MS tech. You may get better Intel from the Event Logs if you know where they are. They are part of the Admin Tools accessed from the Control Panel as I recall (sorry, I am on my XP box at the moment).
Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Just checked on my Win7 box, and the Event Viewer is available from the Administrative Tools in Control Panel. Look in the Windows Logs for Application and find any entries marked as Error. For example, my CCIII crashes on Exit and there is an entry that shows:
Amongst other stuff, although with me, CC3.exe does not Blue Screen. As it is not a show stopper for me, I have not bothered to try and research this in more detail, but with you, it is rather more severe, so is maybe worth more persistence.
Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Yea i selected Dont auto restart after crash.
So i was able to se blue screen
Basicaly it tells cheak fore new hardwear or softwear is properly installed
Nr (0x855ee510,0x8e3c1c4e,0x00000000,0x00000002)
This report show up in Event viewer
Some processor performance power management features have been disabled due to a known firmware problem. Check with the computer manufacturer for updated firmware.
Dunno i dont see anny reports of Application CCIII
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
Checkout Schreckens Link above. 'Cannot access surface for lock' is not an uncommon problem especially with older CC's on newer PC systems. However, I haven't heard of anyone not being able to fix it, so I think (X fingers) you are only moments away from playing the game at last!
Disabling DirectDraw should solve this. Please double check.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Close Combat Series Win7 problem
oh the first Dxdiag is the new one, the second one is direct 7 that i shearched fore.
I think i used the Microsoft softwear because it worked whit CC3 and dident crash
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